7.1 HT speaker package at < 15K

[sakitram]

Hi,

I have Yamaha V667 and going to buy a PS3 soon.
Now I am looking for an excellent speaker package.

For my room size, 5.1 is sufficient, but I am worried about audio, as my receiver is a 7.2 and if I use it for 5.1 speaker package, will I be missing 2 channels in the audio. And also I do see very less number of brands producing 7.1 channel speaker packages. As it is very limited, I am not able to choose one and price is not under by budget.

Please tell me any speaker package at less than 15,000. I will be using the audio system 80% for music and 20% for movies.

Someone suggested Logitech Z5500, it is an excellent speaker package.
But it is simply a multimedia speaker package and also a 5.1 system.

So I am looking for your valuable suggestion. Kindly please help me.

Thanks,
Sakitram

 

[snorkel4u]

In your limited budget, thats the only 'branded' 7.1 you can afford, I guess....unless KORYO beats Logitech

 

[just4kix]

You have purchased a good AVR but in my opinion you are compromising on speakers. At 15K you will have very limited choices. Note that speaker power handling capacity must match the receiver's output power. Underpowered speaker will blow off at higher volumes.

Secondly, 7.1 or 7.2 does not matter. The AVR has the facility to turn off 2 channels (SL and SR) and will behave with 5.1 channels (FL, FR, C, RLS and RRS). So 2 channels will be left out but the side surround output is pushed to front and rear channels. In my opinion, unless the hall is large size and there is no need for 7.1. Also note that not all Blu-Rays are have 7.1 sound.

Finally since your 80% requirement is music, an AVR is not the best choice for music. But you can still use it.

 

[sakitram]

OK. I shall go for increasing the budget for the speakers to 30,000 and for 5.1 speaker system.

Please suggest all possible Speaker package, I just want a perfect and suitable speaker package for my Yamaha V667 model and at nominal cost.

I am just primarily looking for Satellite speaker system, if not possible then Bookshelp. No soundbar or floorstanding speaker system.

I found in some thread about the Sonodyne speaker system
Thanks,

 

[sakitram]

OK. I shall go for increasing the budget for the speakers to 30,000 and for 5.1 speaker system.

Please suggest all possible Speaker package, I just want a perfect and suitable speaker package for my Yamaha V667 model and at nominal cost.

I am just primarily looking for Satellite speaker system, if not possible then Bookshelp. No soundbar or floorstanding speaker system.

I found in some thread about the Sonodyne speaker system do well, but I could see about them in the net and not able to see review about those speakers anywhere. I guess it is a good product (as per the thread I seen) and it will be available at lesser cost as well as it is an Indian made. Please consider about this point as well.

Thanks,

 

[HTuser]

If you are going to use for 80% music, 2 Floor standers will be ideal choice to start with. Select a model which can handle the mid and high frequencies well.

later on you can add a good subwoofer to make it a good 2.1 setup.

In future you can also add center and surround speakers.

You may not get a good 5.1 setup which can handle music and movies well within 30k, you may compromise for a lower model due to budget constraint and later you may regret your decision.

Since you got a good AVR at the moment, try to build a good 5.1 setup slowly instead of compromising on small Satellites.

 

[prankey]

Finally since your 80% requirement is music, an AVR is not the best choice for music. But you can still use it.

I am not sure why are you so biased about AVRs not being the best choice for music. They have all the necessary specs and components to be comparable or even better than some "audiophile" grade equipment. I love my AVR for music and at its cost I get best THD+N, Frequency response, Power output and FEATURES I can get. Some of those "Audiophile" grade INTEGRATED AMPS NEVER performed to my liking with too much of Noise and non linear frequency response. Only thing they basically do is to add UNNATURAL Sonic Signatures (like my Samsung Phone does) to enhance the acoustics (like in turntables). I prefer flat sound and prefer AVRs for ANY purpose especially music.

Most important aspects in AVRs is to match them with very good quality speakers. Obviously if you use those tiny satellite speakers (like "Bose" AM-10) with such a power house, you can never expect music or movies to sound good... You need good tower speakers to get the FULL RANGE sound AVRs produce and not even the best "Bose" speakers can match the sound of even a low end decent, branded tower speakers! My Yamaha 12k worth towers perform MUCH BETTER than ANY BOSE speakers I have auditioned till two years back (including those silly "Direct/Reflecting" models). Since then I just turn my head as soon as I even see the name "Bose". They might be best satellite speakers with their "Acoustimass" design, but they DEFINITELY miss the mid range frequencies to sound fuller and richer which tower speakers provide..

 

[prankey]

OK. I shall go for increasing the budget for the speakers to 30,000 and for 5.1 speaker system.

Please suggest all possible Speaker package, I just want a perfect and suitable speaker package for my Yamaha V667 model and at nominal cost.

I am just primarily looking for Satellite speaker system, if not possible then Bookshelp. No soundbar or floorstanding speaker system.

I found in some thread about the Sonodyne speaker system do well, but I could see about them in the net and not able to see review about those speakers anywhere. I guess it is a good product (as per the thread I seen) and it will be available at lesser cost as well as it is an Indian made. Please consider about this point as well.

Thanks,

At a budget of 30k you can get some decent entry level Polk Audio 5.1 speakers.. They have a very "sweet" sound signature for the music to sound very soothing and smooth...

You could get Jamo as well... however I didn't like their inaccurate frequency response... You could try your luck on some good Onkyo and Yamaha speakers with front towers as well..

 

[just4kix]

I am not sure why are you so biased about AVRs not being the best choice for music. They have all the necessary specs and components to be comparable or even better than some "audiophile" grade equipment. I love my AVR for music and at its cost I get best THD+N, Frequency response, Power output and FEATURES I can get. Some of those "Audiophile" grade INTEGRATED AMPS NEVER performed to my liking with too much of Noise and non linear frequency response. Only thing they basically do is to add UNNATURAL Sonic Signatures (like my Samsung Phone does) to enhance the acoustics (like in turntables). I prefer flat sound and prefer AVRs for ANY purpose especially music.

Most important aspects in AVRs is to match them with very good quality speakers. Obviously if you use those tiny satellite speakers (like "Bose" AM-10) with such a power house, you can never expect music or movies to sound good... You need good tower speakers to get the FULL RANGE sound AVRs produce and not even the best "Bose" speakers can match the sound of even a low end decent, branded tower speakers! My Yamaha 12k worth towers perform MUCH BETTER than ANY BOSE speakers I have auditioned till two years back (including those silly "Direct/Reflecting" models). Since then I just turn my head as soon as I even see the name "Bose". They might be best satellite speakers with their "Acoustimass" design, but they DEFINITELY miss the mid range frequencies to sound fuller and richer which tower speakers provide..

I am not at all biased. I say this out of experience. About 25 years ago, I had a Cosmic system (phono player, tape deck and amp/spk). Later on, I had a small integrated Sonodyne system. I can trustfully say that the Cosmic system was better than my current setup (for pure music).

I also know that Bose speakers are not the best for music but hopefully they should be better than the old Cosmic system. And there are definite reasons why I purchased Bose 12 years ago (I had size constraints). At that time also I knew that Bose was not the best.

I know that I cannot have any firm reference of comparison. But I still have the old phono records, cassette tapes, etc. I am not able to get the same level of pleasure in my current system.

To each his own.

 

[haisaikat]

Hi,

I have Yamaha V667 and going to buy a PS3 soon.
Now I am looking for an excellent speaker package.

For my room size, 5.1 is sufficient, but I am worried about audio, as my receiver is a 7.2 and if I use it for 5.1 speaker package, will I be missing 2 channels in the audio. And also I do see very less number of brands producing 7.1 channel speaker packages. As it is very limited, I am not able to choose one and price is not under by budget.

Please tell me any speaker package at less than 15,000. I will be using the audio system 80% for music and 20% for movies.

Someone suggested Logitech Z5500, it is an excellent speaker package.
But it is simply a multimedia speaker package and also a 5.1 system.

So I am looking for your valuable suggestion. Kindly please help me.

Thanks,
Sakitram

sakitram,
from my 7.1 building experiance i can tell you that in case you have nudget constrainst at the time being go for 5.1 as most sources are 5.1 till date and that is true for downloaded content as well as BDs that you intend to play using PS3. Moreover the rear 2 additional channels in 7.1 are sparingly used in 7.1 declared audio tracks. So unless you have yourslef auditioned a 7.1 vs a 5.1 and think that you see the difference clearly do not go for it.

 

[sriramgiyer]

OK. I shall go for increasing the budget for the speakers to 30,000 and for 5.1 speaker system.

Please suggest all possible Speaker package, I just want a perfect and suitable speaker package for my Yamaha V667 model and at nominal cost.

Go for Energy Take 5.1 classic (if you are able to get that in India, that is). This is slightly outdated but still people say sounds awesome...you may not be inVogue...but you will get what you want.

 

[sakitram]

I planned to buy speakers later as suggested.
So for the moment I will be looking for Front speakers, then Subwoofer and then finally surround speakers.

Now my questions are about the brand. Will the sonodyne speakers be good for HT and can it be better than Polk or Jamo quality and price? Or I shall plan for only Polk speakers.

I just want to proceed very economically at the same time without loosing the quality of the music/movies.

Thank you all for considering my thread.

 

[HTuser]

Happy to hear that you chose to build step by step.

Decision on floor standers depends on various things like
Budget - How much you can spend on FS (available from 30K to few lakhs)
Do you need Full range speakers or only Mid range to high frequency speakers (for e.g Polk RTi A5 is mid to high where as A9 is almost full range)

Do not shortlist on brand first, because Polk RTi series is better than TSi series. You need to chose whether you prefer TSi type or RTi type, then compare with products from other brands

For e.g RTi A5 and B&W 684 will come close in spec, but A5 is 40k and 684 is 80k. You will find speakers from other brands also with similar spec with less/equal/high price compared to A5.

 

[prankey]

I am not at all biased. I say this out of experience. About 25 years ago, I had a Cosmic system (phono player, tape deck and amp/spk). Later on, I had a small integrated Sonodyne system. I can trustfully say that the Cosmic system was better than my current setup (for pure music).

I also know that Bose speakers are not the best for music but hopefully they should be better than the old Cosmic system. And there are definite reasons why I purchased Bose 12 years ago (I had size constraints). At that time also I knew that Bose was not the best.

I know that I cannot have any firm reference of comparison. But I still have the old phono records, cassette tapes, etc. I am not able to get the same level of pleasure in my current system.

To each his own.

That is exactly what I am trying to say... During those old days we were more biased towards Acoustic (Bass and Treble) performance and now the sound industry is concentrating more on flat and accurate reproduction (after the introduction of CDs which has excellent flat frequency response). I know some of us are still biased towards the sound produced by the turntables and cassettes as most of them had strong acoustic signature. However they are no comparison to the THD+N and frequency response.

Talking of Cosmic, they used the similar (and mind you, much lower quality) DISCRETE circuits which had much higher THD+N and much lower frequency response then these AVRs. Their power supply was also of no match to what we get in these AVRs. Same applies to Sonodyne while the later models of 90s had integrated amps which are regarded as lower quality while they usually offered more value for money as compared to discrete amps. However Cosmic never manufactured a speaker system despite designing those huge towers with huge paper cone speakers including tweeters which had accurate reproduction of music like the recent models do. They were again designed to produce strong acoustic signature then the current models. Sonodyne did manufacture better quality speakers which can handle CD quality sound, however again, they were very expensive as compared to the current models. As of now, similarly priced Sonodyne Amps, Speakers usually perform lower than particularly Yamaha and Onkyo..

 

[Danieljohn]

I am not at all biased. I say this out of experience. About 25 years ago, I had a Cosmic system (phono player, tape deck and amp/spk). Later on, I had a small integrated Sonodyne system. I can trustfully say that the Cosmic system was better than my current setup (for pure music).

I also know that Bose speakers are not the best for music but hopefully they should be better than the old Cosmic system. And there are definite reasons why I purchased Bose 12 years ago (I had size constraints). At that time also I knew that Bose was not the best.

I know that I cannot have any firm reference of comparison. But I still have the old phono records, cassette tapes, etc. I am not able to get the same level of pleasure in my current system.

To each his own.

Hi I agree with you could you PM me your Cosmic Amp/Speakers/TT models

 

[forever.pramod]

Happy to hear that you chose to build step by step.

Decision on floor standers depends on various things like
Budget - How much you can spend on FS (available from 30K to few lakhs)
Do you need Full range speakers or only Mid range to high frequency speakers (for e.g Polk RTi A5 is mid to high where as A9 is almost full range)

Do not shortlist on brand first, because Polk RTi series is better than TSi series. You need to chose whether you prefer TSi type or RTi type, then compare with products from other brands

For e.g RTi A5 and B&W 684 will come close in spec, but A5 is 40k and 684 is 80k. You will find speakers from other brands also with similar spec with less/equal/high price compared to A5.

If I am not wrong, audiophile experts say - Polk speakers are good for Movies than Music. So you may look for other speakers like Dali, which are more musical. Correct me if I am wrong, because I dont have that much knowledge and experience in this field

 

[RajithKumar]

Since ur requirement is music ,u can first step in to stereo mode for which Dali Zensor 3 speakers will be good .also i guess it will be in the budget of 30k.
Later u can add further speakers step by step...
If u wish not to spend more that u can get Boston acoustics soundware 5.1 speakers( <30 k )which is having good review by our members or u can try polk speakers as said earlier by one of our member.
Please do audition ,before purchase any brand because u are going to hear it ..