Thirumalkumaran
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May be off topic; What cost of speakers we should.drive with a DAC of 1.25L? Wouldn't our speaker and room start to bottleneck the cost of the DAC?
Haha..I think those looking for a 1.25 L dac, do have a suitable chain of preamp, poweramp and speakers to recognise the difference that a dac brings. As to the cost of the speakers, I'd say as much as you can affordMay be off topic; What cost of speakers we should.drive with a DAC of 1.25L? Wouldn't our speaker and room start to bottleneck the cost of the DAC?
May be off topic; What cost of speakers we should.drive with a DAC of 1.25L? Wouldn't our speaker and room start to bottleneck the cost of the DAC?
Thanks for stating this captain obvious… “the best you can afford” adds a lot of value to the post!Haha..I think those looking for a 1.25 L dac, do have a suitable chain of preamp, poweramp and speakers to recognise the difference that a dac brings. As to the cost of the speakers, I'd say as much as you can afford
Does it mean that we need to hunt speakers which go right with this, than to get an electronics to go with your speaker, which might be easier? And room treatment would be easier if the speakers are set first?Even otherwise, makes sense to get the best dac and transport you can and even if that is the top component in the chain, other than the other way around, for the best sound,
Even entry level speaker, as long as they do the basics right, will make better better music with a better dac. the other way around ie a better speaker can reveal the problems with ones source/amplification and give a feeling that the sound not being very good..eg sharper, grainy, losing the feel etc etc..
If we assume that the speaker worth 20L is highly resolving and the expectation is to maximize the sound quality from it, it will need a fairly accurate, resolving and musical source which is not usually easy to find at lower price points (relative)Does it mean that we need to hunt speakers which go right with this, than to get an electronics to go with your speaker, which might be easier? And room treatment would be easier if the speakers are set first?
The reason I ask these is I know guys using 12l revels and 5l elacs driven by cheaper dacs.. still wondering how much of a benefit this might bring? Btw, what if the current dac is not bottlenecking speakers worth 20L?
Arjun, that’s a masterful insight - so simply put.The best approach which I have learnt for myself is 1. Speaker for your Room 2. Amp for your speaker 3. Best source you can afford.
I find it very difficult to define these %ges to be honest especially since DACs have only become cheaper and cost/quality reduced but taking out a DAC from your plan/budget is not the right path.Thanks for moving this to a new thread..
We used to a general rule of 60:40 for speakers and amps. Now.. where and how the source comes in picture?
I’m in line with @arj i would choose speakers 1st then amp and then source. The answer would have been straight forward if the speakers of the DAC requirer was known. This makes me wonder what ratio of cost does dac come in?
If it is around 10% then does op use a 15L speakers? (as the requirement is used) if yes.. it’s fair.. but if not what makes the current dac not performing up to the mark?
BTW, the guy who uses the revels is using a focal dac (not got the details) and the Elam one uses a schit gungnir.
May be off topic; What cost of speakers we should.drive with a DAC of 1.25L? Wouldn't our speaker and room start to bottleneck the cost of the DAC?
absolutely rightSpeakers even in the range of 5 to 6L may not be out of place for such a dac unless it is some overpriced mainstream brand that gives you very low value for money. However synergy is key rather than price. The basic rules of "right speaker for the room / taste" and "right amp for the speaker" are very important as others have rightly pointed out.