floor standers for a new bee

[opsitiveguy]

Hi everyone,

Recently joined hifivision and am looking for AVR/amplifier + pair of floorstanding speakers which can be used for music occasionally for movies.

I don't wanna spend more on my first system so its limited to 30K ( I can buy used)

1. Confused between amplifier and AVR. there are pre amplifier somthing else am new bee so not exactly sure whats the difference. Compared AVR is costlier.

2.I don't want book shelves and will purchase woofer later for now just two speakers which would serve the purpose.

I listen to rock and indian music

Can you suggest something for my budget and what the difference between amplifier and AVR which would better for me. where can I buy them any deals would be good

 

[HTuser]

Good floor standers will cost 40k and above.

I would suggest 2 channel amp + book shelves

Some prefer pre-amp and power-amp separately. AVR contains pre-amp and power-amp and supports 5.1/7.1/9.1 etc.

Generally dedicated power amp will have more power to drive the speakers.

 

[just4kix]

The AVR as the name suggests is an Audio-Video Receiver. It is multipurpose. It can receive video signals, collate then and properly distribute to the output video device. It can also enhance/upscale lower quality video (SD) to high definition (HD) over HDMI. AVR will receive digitally encoded surround sound and decode them to 5.1 or 7.1 channels. Some high end AVRs are even 9.1 and I have heard that 11.1 channel AVRs are also in. The AVR has a built-in AM/FM tuner too. AVR can also connect to a slew of audio devices such as CDP, Phono, Tape Deck, etc. It has a built-in DAC and amplifier. So in a sense AVR is an all rounder.

The stereo amplifier deals with 2 channel audio only and can receive analogue stereo signals from CDP, Phono, Tape Deck, etc., amplify the signal and send it to 2 channel speakers. Thus it is a specialist. Since it is a specialist, its amplifier section is almost usually much better than that of the AVR. In an AVR, the electronics may be slightly compromised to keep the overall cost low.

Power to power compared, the AVR is likely to be twice as costly as the stereo amp.

If you are more into music, then a stereo system is good. But a stereo will not at all do for movies because stereo amps cannot decode surround encoded signals such as Dolby, DTS, etc. So decide very carefully.

No doubt that floor standers look very impressive but they are costly too. They require more powerful amplifiers. The name bookshelf is a very loosely worded term. A lot of people place these 1 foot to 1.5 foot height speaker near or on bookshelves and hence they got named as such. Bookshelf speakers are quite powerful also. A 20-25K BS set will easily outclass or match the performance of 45K towers.

 

[opsitiveguy]

Thank you HTuser for suggestion

Awesome post Justkix, loved it. Detailed and great help to me I have decided to go for AVR rather than power amp for my requirements.

I found some deals for below floor standers can you tell me if they are any good
and suggest the suitable AVR for in budget

Polk audio RTI A5 - used 1yr ( 25K)
Paradigm Monitor V9 - out of my budget (really worthy will get them)
Klipsch F1 - new 30K
dls d3 - new 35K

are they worth the prices above and can I get them in lower prices?
any other good one's below this price range? which AVR will suit them to drive
will complete my HT later just AVR + 2 speakers for now

 

[bobby0909]

We all dream to have floorstanders in our audio setup.But the one thing which I found to be very discourageing, to own a pair, is not so much the premium price which they command, but the space they require to extract the desired sound from them.
In this age of flats and dingy villas it is very difficult to find enough space to let the modern floorstanders sing.

my humble 2 cents

 

[Record Player]

We all dream to have floorstanders in our audio setup.But the one thing which I found to be very discourageing, to own a pair, is not so much the premium price which they command, but the space they require to extract the desired sound from them.
In this age of flats and dingy villas it is very difficult to find enough space to let the modern floorstanders sing.

my humble 2 cents

+1 with Bobby. Without the right space, they are underperformed.

 

[just4kix]

@opsitiveguy, all the speakers that you mention are good and highly rated. I have heard that Polks pair very well with Denons and I suppose Paradigm will go well with Yamaha or Onkyo. Best is to audition. Decide your budget and them take the plunge. It is not absolutely required that you must have a complete 5.1 speaker system from day 1 - you can build piece by piece.

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[Nishanth]

I would recommend Yamaha RX-V373 for the AVR. If your going for floor standers then check out Yamaha NS-8390 and Boston Acoustics A250.

 

[just4kix]

I checked Linksys, but the products are very expensive. TP Link is a good option but I am unable to decide the model and what features should I be focussing on.

Wrong thread??

 

[opsitiveguy]

Thank you every one for the suggestions, sorry about some confusion I created
I did some research in the forums and decided as below

First will decide on speakers then get to the AVR and as people said 30K is less for floorstands so decided to go for 50-60K only for speakers

help me choosing speakers best in that range?
so experts need good floorstinding spekers with 60K budget for 70% movies and 30% music.

 

[jagdish_p]

Thank you every one for the suggestions, sorry about some confusion I created
I did some research in the forums and decided as below

First will decide on speakers then get to the AVR and as people said 30K is less for floorstands so decided to go for 50-60K only for speakers

help me choosing speakers best in that range?
so experts need good floorstinding spekers with 60K budget for 70% movies and 30% music.

If its 70% movies you should plan for a 2.1 system if not 5.1 . The .1 refers to a subwoofer.
You will need to do some more reading / auditioning of actual set ups in the showroom to decide.
And as you mentioned start with a lower budget for the first system. You will want to change / upgrade after some time

 

[just4kix]

Auditioning is the key. You may select the speaker system first and then pair it with a matching AVR or vice versa. Most people select AVR first. You have not specified the room size. Initially, you said that your budget is 30K but later you have scaled it up. Decide a budget with a top-max point. If you have a small room and no forseeable plans to move to a big room, you can go with HTiB such as Onkyo 3500, Yamaha YHT-298 or Demon 1312xp. All are less than 30K.

 

[tanmayj]

I think the some of the cheapest FS speakers around are Polk Audio TSi 300 and Jamo S626. If memory serves, both are in the 17K-20K range. Havent heard either, so cant comment on SQ. But I can vouch for Polk TSi 400 which is available @ 26000 for a pair. That sounds great. But the RTi series you mentioned is supposed to be better than the TSi. The TSi is an entry level FS series from Polk. So the used RTis that you were mentioning - if the seller is a dependable guy, that sounds pretty good.

 

[elangoas]

Thank you every one for the suggestions, sorry about some confusion I created
I did some research in the forums and decided as below

First will decide on speakers then get to the AVR and as people said 30K is less for floorstands so decided to go for 50-60K only for speakers

help me choosing speakers best in that range?
so experts need good floorstinding spekers with 60K budget for 70% movies and 30% music.

Check the Sonodyne Sonus range from India....if you like FS, you can get them for <30K...There towers are approx 27K...You don't need to spend a fortune

There is a general perception that a BS will perform better than a FS in the same price....

I have a first hand experience in this....I have owned Wharfedale diamond 9.2 speakers in the past which are now replaced by diamond 10.2 speakers. They coast around 25K....

Sonodyne Sonus 2605 cost 27K... Juz 2K difference in price... But the difference in performance is huge, really huge...

Listen to as many speakers as you can within your budget & choose..

Happy hunting....

 

[opsitiveguy]

Thank you for the valuable input.

@jagadish_p yeah , my plan from the start is to have 2.1 not 5.1 first I will get the AVR+FS then woofer. I haven,t started auditions yet because wanted to do some research first. I will not change this system for 3 yrs at least decide dto spend some more and get best for me.

@Just4kix Thanks for the suggestion I have decided Yamaha RX-673 will be my AVR did lot of reading and liked it in my budget ( anything is better than this in 390$ I can audition that, getting from US amazon). Not exactly sure but I don't want the HTIB.

@tanmayj & @ealangoas
experts please give which FS under 60K would be good with yamaha rx-673 for movies I can adjust for music. bass is bit important for movie experience I guess. FS with more bass or FS+sub , I will start my auditions.

 

[tanmayj]

Sorry but I'm a bit confused...

You say 70:30 movies:music but you also say you are looking for 2.1 not 5.1...

Are you planning to watch movies on a 2.1 setup?


Anyway can you give out your room size?

 

[alphacentury100]

Sonodyne is a good choice at the price you have mentioned. for more floor stand speakers and their prices, check these links:
Floorstanding
Profx - Advanced Audio Solutions
Profx - Advanced Audio Solutions

Hope it helps.

 

[opsitiveguy]

@tanmayj yes am mostly looking for movies and jagadish from forum suggested 2.1 than 5.1 for movies so , anyway for now my budget (AVR 30K + floorstands 60K)

room size 16X20

 

[Kittu]

An AVR of 30k price will not be having enough power to drive a decent pair of floorstanders. I suggest you go with a stereo amp with FS/BS combo. Later buy a powerful AVR or a Pre+power combo and part away or use the stereo amp as power amp with avr combination.

 

[tanmayj]

An AVR of 30k price will not be having enough power to drive a decent pair of floorstanders.

My thoughts exactly.

Anyway you need to be looking at the RTi series or TSi 500 from Polk, for the room size mentioned. BTW RTis are widely acknowledged to be better than the TSis. Buy the biggest that fits the budget.

But also remember that powerful speakers need powerful AVRs to drive them.

IMHO RTi (even A5) would require something on the lines of a Denon 2313 or Onkyo 717 to drive them.

Dont buy AVRs in India. Indian prices are OBSCENE!!! Look for a long lost friend/ relative to hand carry them from abroad.

I saved a flat 28K on an Onkyo 616 this way!!!