Help regarding Purchase - [B] 50GT50 vs 50ST50 vs 51E8000 and 40-46 LED upto 1 L[/B]

[mpvaity]

Hello everybody!

I am very much interested in buying 50" plasma. My heart is saying 50GT50. MY max budget is 1.0 L. Searched 3-4 shops in Thane area ST50 and GT 50 in 50 inch are out of stock. New stock is not arriving till December. @kohinoor...ST50 was quoted 95K and GT50 1.10 L but wait is 1 month at least. Samsung is ready in stock for 95K with Galaxy Tab 2 offer. Pana were quoted deducting printer cost. I buy stuff 90% online so i wont hesitate buying it online but never bought in excess of 50K at once ; Infibeam has 51E800 for 88K with Tab 2 offer, ST50 @ 94300 and GT50@ 96300 with regular panasonic offer. Price for GT50 is really tempting. Shall I go ahead on buying from Infibeam.

Secondly my cousin wants a Good LED 40-46 upto 90K. @ kohinoor I enquired abt LG 42" 7600 ; it was quoted for 84K .

I am more than happy to welcome any kind of suggestions . LED TV i am ready to buy any good one regardless of brand. Plasma is between 3 I chose only.

 

[madhavk8]

Re: Help regarding Purchase - 50GT50 vs 50ST50 vs 51E8000 and 40-46 LED upto 1 L[

51E8000 picture quality equals that of 50ST50 and has marginally better blacks according to reviews(though VT50 has best blacks). 51E8000 has dual core processor, smart tv with gesture recognition, real black infinite filter and lot more other features which make it a better option than ST50.

Understand that E8000 is Samsung's highest end TV for 2012 and ST50 is Panasonic's mid tier tv( GT50 and VT50 are high end) . Hence Samsung selling it for such a good price and also giving Galaxy Tab 2 is a killer offer. Just go 51E8000 !!!

 

[just4kix]

Re: Help regarding Purchase - 50GT50 vs 50ST50 vs 51E8000 and 40-46 LED upto 1 L[

At current offers, it is difficult to beat Samsung 51E8000. I have not seen it in action but the websites have very good reviews. Do a demo.

Next best option is 50ST50 and finally 50GT50. Though quality wise, I would expect GT50 to be the best of the lot, the benefits will accrue only if playing true breed 1080p stuff such as BD movies. 50ST50 can deliver similar results but in darker rooms.

Whether to buy online or not is entirely your decision but I would hesitate for such a costly item. For such items, my motto is "???? ???, ????? ???".

 

[Dushie]

Re: Help regarding Purchase - 50GT50 vs 50ST50 vs 51E8000 and 40-46 LED upto 1 L[

Hello everybody!

I am very much interested in buying 50" plasma. My heart is saying 50GT50. MY max budget is 1.0 L. Searched 3-4 shops in Thane area ST50 and GT 50 in 50 inch are out of stock. New stock is not arriving till December. @kohinoor...ST50 was quoted 95K and GT50 1.10 L but wait is 1 month at least. Samsung is ready in stock for 95K with Galaxy Tab 2 offer. Pana were quoted deducting printer cost. I buy stuff 90% online so i wont hesitate buying it online but never bought in excess of 50K at once ; Infibeam has 51E800 for 88K with Tab 2 offer, ST50 @ 94300 and GT50@ 96300 with regular panasonic offer. Price for GT50 is really tempting. Shall I go ahead on buying from Infibeam.

Secondly my cousin wants a Good LED 40-46 upto 90K. @ kohinoor I enquired abt LG 42" 7600 ; it was quoted for 84K .

I am more than happy to welcome any kind of suggestions . LED TV i am ready to buy any good one regardless of brand. Plasma is between 3 I chose only.

Go for Sammy you would not be disappointed, i have been using Sammy plasmas for over 8 years now, never faced any issues. I still remember the first one i got in 2006 still going strong till now without any hiccups.

Plus i feel Sammy gives more bang for the buck and the features are really advanced now compared to other sets in same price range.

 

[sandy04141]

Re: Help regarding Purchase - 50GT50 vs 50ST50 vs 51E8000 and 40-46 LED upto 1 L[

Hi all,
I am looking for plasma 50". Pana GT50/ ST50/Sammy 51E8000.

And situation here in Jalandhar.
Local dealer have no stock of Pana GT50 or even ST50.
Samsung has enough E8000.

The reason i stopped by is just Googled and founded infibeam showing pana GT50 price very low as 96299 which seen very attractive for such high end model with printer offer.

I think Panasonic also reduced price of GT50 COMPETING Samsung 51E8000 ?? Is it Right?? Normally i hear pana 50Gt around 1.2L

Is it right because i went to Pana dealer to inquire and price reduction but they do not show this up and just said these model is not in stock due to low sale volume.

I dont know much about technology diff of pana over sammy?

confused if its worth the wait for Pana GT/ST or should go for Sammy for its attractive price.Any Suggestions? Will be grateful.

Regards,

 

[manzb]

Re: Help regarding Purchase - 50GT50 vs 50ST50 vs 51E8000 and 40-46 LED upto 1 L[

I think infibeam created this situation by offering a mouthwatering deal.. nothing can beat a Pana GT50 at 96k.... the other day I had seen the basic demo of E8000, it is really good, I think it is one of the best Plasma I have ever seen.. ( demo time was early evening)..

If you are fine with the online purchase.. then you may please go ahead with 96k GT50..

MOVAITY -- someone already got E8000 from Kohinoor Andheri at 84k or so (without exchange and with Tab2 offer)... so I think the Thane Kohinoor will also shall be able to offer the same .. just tell them .. else you can always go to Andheri and get it from there... Regarding 46 LED.. I will suggest 46HX750.. around 90K.. there is a shop at Thane who sells at the lowest price and their advt appears on the Thane times very often..

 

[mpvaity]

Re: Help regarding Purchase - 50GT50 vs 50ST50 vs 51E8000 and 40-46 LED upto 1 L[

I saw 64" inch Samsung E8000 in store and looked and next to it was 42GT50 That looked little bit better. But I m okay with both . But 2 things just pulling me away from Sammy - 1) 1 year warranty and 2) Last 3 years I m looking for plasma; helped 3 of my friends to buy pana plasmas so my heart is stuck there. Never thought of Samsung. But E8000 with its current offer is very tempting.

 

[shanmune]

Re: Help regarding Purchase - 50GT50 vs 50ST50 vs 51E8000 and 40-46 LED upto 1 L[

Hello everybody!

I am very much interested in buying 50" plasma. My heart is saying 50GT50. MY max budget is 1.0 L. Searched 3-4 shops in Thane area ST50 and GT 50 in 50 inch are out of stock. New stock is not arriving till December. @kohinoor...ST50 was quoted 95K and GT50 1.10 L but wait is 1 month at least. Samsung is ready in stock for 95K with Galaxy Tab 2 offer. Pana were quoted deducting printer cost. I buy stuff 90% online so i wont hesitate buying it online but never bought in excess of 50K at once ; Infibeam has 51E800 for 88K with Tab 2 offer, ST50 @ 94300 and GT50@ 96300 with regular panasonic offer. Price for GT50 is really tempting. Shall I go ahead on buying from Infibeam.

Secondly my cousin wants a Good LED 40-46 upto 90K. @ kohinoor I enquired abt LG 42" 7600 ; it was quoted for 84K .

I am more than happy to welcome any kind of suggestions . LED TV i am ready to buy any good one regardless of brand. Plasma is between 3 I chose only.

You have got excellent options between E8000 vs ST50 vs GT50. All are excellent. On the PQ scale, all the three are more or less same (of course there is very slight difference seen only by experts with eagle sharp eyes and not by a normal viewer.
On the economic scale, E8000 seems to be a better option with added features as well.
I would still suggest you to go to a showroom and see what you feel the best.
Below, I am just trying to post a overall summary on the PQ based on various reviews. Please don't use this as the absolute guide to decide on the model and as I said, see what works better for you in your eyes.
With respect to black level, though the measurements indicate that Panasonic is slightly better, Chad B (a respected TV calibrartor) says that the difference is very marginal.
Color accuracy seems to be slightly more natural in Samsung.
Generally, Samsung will be brighter than panasonic, but some reviews do suggest that 2012 Samsung Plasmas are slightly dimmer compared to Panasonic.

Overall, E8000 is a match to the Panasonic.

 

[longshanks]

Re: Help regarding Purchase - 50GT50 vs 50ST50 vs 51E8000 and 40-46 LED upto 1 L[

51E8000 picture quality equals that of 50ST50 and has marginally better blacks according to reviews

I am not sure how you came to this conclusion,may be it is due to Cnet's review but i guess i would have to respectfully disagree. From the various reviews of websites(except Cnet),users and even calibrators here is my personal opinion.

E8000 has marginally inferior blacks compared to ST50,GT50,VT50 and even compared to Samsung's own E6500, E7000, in fact E6500 has superior blacks than E7000,E8000 and ST50.

E8000 is the Samsung equivalent of VT50 and this is what i feel how it fares from what i read from all the sources i've come across.

E8000 vs ST50 : Expect for the blacks there is simply no contest in any other parameters, even this black advantage cannot be noticed at dim lit or properly lit environments
but in a darker room there might be difference depending on how well the television is calibrated.

E8000 VS GT50 : GT50 wins over E8000 in terms of blacks in a darker room very clearly, GT50 will handle fast phased materials better and will have better motion. E8000 has better picture processing hence produces better colors,has the best viewing angle of any plasma,processes SD better than any Panasonic plasma and has better 3D than GT50,better processing overall and crisper picture,better Screen uniformity.

E8000 vs VT50: There is real competition here, VT50 wins hands down in blacks,Brightness,Better colors out of the box,higher motion resolution. E8000 has better 3D, better SD,better processing(some say it over processes pictures),better Screen uniformity,zero image retention,lesser phosphor trails.

All this is only when comparing the 50 and 55" Panasonic to 51" Samsung,the sstory takes a big twist when comparing 64" E8000/7000 Samsung to 65" VT50/GT50. Most sites and expert users alike confirm that there is no difference of black level between the top end models of both these brands at their largest sizes so competition gets very tough and choosing between the two is just personal preference.

here is a nice review of 64" E8000.
Samsung PS64E8000 Performance

Samsung PS64E8000 Calibration

The reviewer measured a calibrayed ANSI black of 0.020 cd/m2 which is excellent IMO and he also noted this :

During the review process, we didnt see any image retention at all, suggesting that reports of Samsungs larger plasma TVs using different panel materials are accurate. The performance here is really surprising, and will be very reassuring for users of video games or TV channels with permanent on-screen logos.


Black Level & Contrast Performance
The contrast performance of Samsungs largest plasma televisions is, on the whole, probably comparable to Panasonics highest-end European plasmas, but slightly lower than its midrange models. Sound confusing? It is, because with the current batch of PDPs from both leading manufacturers, there are trade-offs when it comes to contrast performance and overall accuracy.
Lets start with the Samsung PS64E8000. We measured full-screen black (with a few pixels of white on screen to avoid the panel shutting off trick) at 0.017 cd/m2, with a 100 IRE (full video white) window measuring at 109 cd/m2 in the same configuration. Thats very good performance. More importantly for real world usage, the E8000 held onto its dark blacks even during an ANSI checkerboard test (when the screen is divided into white and black squares equally), returning 0.020 cd/m2 in this case. The difference of 0.003 cd/m2 is too small to be noticeable.
Panasonics GT50 and VT50 are more confusing, with their minimum luminance level now being reported as 0.017 0.020 cd/m2 in the [Professional] modes, and peak light output being capped at a disappointingly low 90 cd/m2 and 80 cd/m2 respectively. Thats not the case in their other picture modes (such as the THX-branded preset), but those modes do not have access to the full range of video calibration controls. In Europe, Panasonics mid-range ST50 plasmas have the best contrast performance, with 0.009 cd/m2 blacks, and whites topping out at around 120 cd/m2. Yes, the cheaper model has better contrast performance than the two higher-end ones although theres only basic calibration controls on the ST50. In any case, the apparent bug with Panasonics GT50 and VT50 in the [Professional] modes mean that, for videophile users having the display calibrated, for the first time, a Samsung plasma TV has superior contrast performance when minimum luminance level (black level) and peak white are considered.

source : Samsung]Samsung PS64E8000 Performance]Samsung PS64E8000 Performance

Overall you cannot go wrong with any of these top end plasma,but now that 51E8000 is being offered at less 90k is like day time robbery ,it will be quite unfortunate to miss a deal like that, if only Panasonic has reduced the pricing of GT50 and VT50 to comparable levels of E8000 and E7000 i might jump sides quickly and consider even buying one

 

[psolaiappan]

Re: Help regarding Purchase - 50GT50 vs 50ST50 vs 51E8000 and 40-46 LED upto 1 L[

I think infibeam created this situation by offering a mouthwatering deal.. nothing can beat a Pana GT50 at 96k.... the other day I had seen the basic demo of E8000, it is really good, I think it is one of the best Plasma I have ever seen.. ( demo time was early evening)..

If you are fine with the online purchase.. then you may please go ahead with 96k GT50..

MOVAITY -- someone already got E8000 from Kohinoor Andheri at 84k or so (without exchange and with Tab2 offer)... so I think the Thane Kohinoor will also shall be able to offer the same .. just tell them .. else you can always go to Andheri and get it from there... Regarding 46 LED.. I will suggest 46HX750.. around 90K.. there is a shop at Thane who sells at the lowest price and their advt appears on the Thane times very often..

Kohinoor in Mumbai quoting 95k for 51e8000 Plasma