High Framerate 3D: Can Bluray handle it?

Is High Framerate 3D the future of Cinema?


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James Cameron is pushing for higher framerates in movies which is very good news according to me. It's about time and has been long overdue. 24fps is pathetically low.The current cameras, cinema projectors, home projectors and TVs are all capable of doing it. This should reduce the Headaches people get and blame on 3D.
My questions are:
1) Do you agree that this is the future of Cinema?
2) Do BDs and HDMI1.4 have the capabilities to pull off 1080p 3D @48Hz atleast?

Cameron: If watching a 3D movie is like looking through a window, then [with this] weve taken the glass out of the window and were staring at reality.
 
I think people in this country deserve unpixelated artefact free 1080p before you jump to high frame rate. You can gauge this from the fact that the current DTH operators are actually fighting over who's channels are 'asli' when in reality the total number of HD channels itself has not crossed 10!
 
totally agree with you. If DTH providers themselves think that showing a upscaled SD video is enough to satisfy the "Needs" for the HD , then i dont think we will ever get to see real HD channels in big numbers.
 
You people misunderstood me. I mean it would be great on TV too. But I mainly wanted to discuss movies(as it is very much possible and feasible). All movies have been shot at 24fps ever since the beginning and no one ever bothered to change it. Now the current tech can already do things at high Framerates but the Film Makers are just not taking an initiative.
If we are striving for the ultimate video format with FullHD and 3D and 4K, then Framerate is certainly as important as something like resolution.
If you people can't judge how much difference high framerate makes, then try to remember the Ultramotion replays we see in cricket. A framerate that high is certainly not feasible and an overkill but 60fps is certainly the need of the hour to remove the eyestrain and fatigue associated with TV/Movie watching. I don't know about you guys but watching very fast scenes for a long time is certainly tiring for me.
 
In the next 5 years or so, I don't see cinema crossing 24FPS even when 4k will become more common. The reason for that is that even at such low frame rate, even action scenes look extremely detailed and convincing.

I voted for yes because we do deserve High Frame Rate 3D for Gaming! Ideally these so called 3D TVs should ATLEAST support TRUE 120Hz input for both 2D and 3D for us to enjoy High frame rate gaming for lesser lag or stutter.

I personally find even a frame rate of 60Hz for Full HD content to be unnecessary even for high action sports, etc. as it consumes a lot of bandwidth and hardly give much benefit over its 30Hz counterpart. A typical human eye can perceive motion well beyond 16FPS and unless there are other artifacts (like in gaming due to real time graphics rendering) we don't really need high frame rate video for the next 5 years by when the cost for storage and bandwidth will reduce significantly to make ways for 60Hz and above content especially for OLED TVs.
 
No, the judder mostly comes from 2:2 or 2:3 pulldown done to convert 24 frames to 25 or 30 frames. All the HDTV's start at 60 Hz native display, so those do 2:3 pulldown to 30 frames and do it double. If the display is 120 Hz, then there is no need to do pulldown. Bluray is 1080p24, so all it does is show one frame 5 times, avoiding the judder totally.

At the movie theaters, modern digital projector project at 48 Hz. They do double flash to get the fluid motion. I had Infocus 4805 and then IN72. Both of these projectors allowed PC input either at 48 Hz and 72Hz. We were able to see judder-less picture for movies but had to change it to 60 Hz for video/TV.

The current move to 48 Hz for films is coming because of 3D. 24 frames for 3D means only 12 frames for each eye. The theaters do double flash, but that's still not enough. That's why directors like Cameron wants to get 24 framers each eye, 48 frames total. Will 48 frames help 2D as well? Absolutely. This will percolate down to Bluray as the time goes. Just now, there are 4k displays, starting to show up. Sony just released a native 4k projector. So, people will start to ask for 4k resources too. May be Bluray will go for 4 layer or new format may be needed. Then there is also the question of full 12 bit color gamut, just like Digital cinema instead of 8 bit bluray spec. Not all of these will make to bluray, but there is a big list. :D
 
At the movie theaters, modern digital projector project at 48 Hz. They do double flash to get the fluid motion. I had Infocus 4805 and then IN72. Both of these projectors allowed PC input either at 48 Hz and 72Hz. We were able to see judder-less picture for movies but had to change it to 60 Hz for video/TV.

+1 to that. I am still using the legendary 4805. Its awesome when connected to HD content as we all do, but the best part is crisp images using its Faroudja processor for watching SD movies which is 90% available content . Touch wood.;)
 
Half-SBS 60hz 3D is possible on most 3DTV's but only when playing directly from usb because hdmi 1.4a does not support it.
 
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