HT Update: Tonewinner D4000 and Dayton Audio Bass Shakers

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Hey Everyone - It's been a while since I last posted and figured I'll give an update on my HT journey.

The experience around 21" Custom Sealed DIY Subwoofer was a mixed bag initially. It just wasn't going low enough but the mid-bass was extraordinary. Some extremely kind people tried helping me out with calibrations via UMIK-1 and MiniDSP but it was just way too much work for someone like me. In fact, it sucked out all the joy that I had for this hobby so I just quit (for now)!

To sort out the low frequencies, like any normal person would, I bought a Tonewinner D4000 😄

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(That cable across the room isn't there anymore. It was only for calibrations)

This brought back the lows for me. And now, I'm using both the subwoofers at either ends of the recliner pointed towards me.

Calibrated it using OCA's A1 Maestro and I'm back to enjoying my HT. It isn't perfect by any means but the only thing that matters is that I'm happy once again :D

All of the above happened last year. Once this year started, I started getting that familiar itch to add onto my HT 😅 But I didn't want to spend a lot of money. So I ended up getting a pair of Dayton Audio BST-1 Bass Shakers from the US for $110.

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Received them last night and fixed them to my recliners (one each). The installation was fairly straightforward. Wired them in series to get an 8ohm load and connected it to my Crown XLS 2502 amp. Set the LPF crossover at 80hz (as per Dayton Audio's recco) and watched the ending of Top Gun: Maverick. Couldn't crank it up because it was late night but I have a feeling that I'll reduce the crossover to 60 or 50hz. But all in all, this is a nice and relatively cheap upgrade and I'm sure I'll have fun with it 😁

Note: For the eagle eyed viewers, you might have noticed that the top mounting holes are empty. That's because the bass shaker was hitting the recliner's mechanism when fully reclined. When I have more patience, I'll get a wide plank of wood as a platform so that I'm able to screw in all 4 mounting holes. But even in this configuration, it's mounted solidly.

More importantly, the huge lesson I learnt last year was to just enjoy this hobby and the journey instead of fussing over the details ;) When I'm able to do a dedicated HT, I'll bring in the professionals. Until then, I'm going to choose to be happy with my imperfect HT 😄. That doesn't mean you guys can't point out what I've done wrong (I'm sure there's a lot of room for improvement). I appreciate feedback but I'll get to it when I can :)
 
With right eq the 21" sealed sub could hit under 20 hz in your room with clarity
Hey Prateek - Hope you're well 😀

A bunch of people from AVS Forums tried helping me with it but I believe REW showed that it only went to 35hz or something. Not sure what happened. But yeah, I'll revisit it sometime in the future.
 
Hey Prateek - Hope you're well 😀

A bunch of people from AVS Forums tried helping me with it but I believe REW showed that it only went to 35hz or something. Not sure what happened. But yeah, I'll revisit it sometime in the future.
Hey..
Yeah... Doing awesome 😎
You must EQ it manually.
Check the simulation graphs of this driver- see the max spl attained at 20hz( you will be surprised ) - EQ it in such a way that everything above 20hz is brought down to the level of 20hz.

I hope the amp is in bridge mode when you are doing all this

I extremely surprised that you bought a tone winner sub after having a 21" sealed sub
 
Hey..
Yeah... Doing awesome 😎
You must EQ it manually.
Check the simulation graphs of this driver- see the max spl attained at 20hz( you will be surprised ) - EQ it in such a way that everything above 20hz is brought down to the level of 20hz.

I hope the amp is in bridge mode when you are doing all this

I extremely surprised that you bought a tone winner sub after having a 21" sealed sub
I don't know how to do any of that 😁 Tried getting into it and learning but it's just not my cup of tea. And yes, the amp was in bridge mode. Maybe I'll get a professional to calibrate when I build a dedicated HT.

And yeah, I had to get a ported sub because I missed that sound signature (?) that comes from a ported sub. Again, it's probably because the sealed sub wasn't calibrated properly.
 
I don't know how to do any of that 😁 Tried getting into it and learning but it's just not my cup of tea. And yes, the amp was in bridge mode. Maybe I'll get a professional to calibrate when I build a dedicated HT.

And yeah, I had to get a ported sub because I missed that sound signature (?) that comes from a ported sub. Again, it's probably because the sealed sub wasn't calibrated properly.
At the end, You found the right answer :)
 
Hey Everyone - It's been a while since I last posted and figured I'll give an update on my HT journey.

The experience around 21" Custom Sealed DIY Subwoofer was a mixed bag initially. It just wasn't going low enough but the mid-bass was extraordinary. Some extremely kind people tried helping me out with calibrations via UMIK-1 and MiniDSP but it was just way too much work for someone like me. In fact, it sucked out all the joy that I had for this hobby so I just quit (for now)!

To sort out the low frequencies, like any normal person would, I bought a Tonewinner D4000 😄

View attachment 89344
(That cable across the room isn't there anymore. It was only for calibrations)

This brought back the lows for me. And now, I'm using both the subwoofers at either ends of the recliner pointed towards me.

Calibrated it using OCA's A1 Maestro and I'm back to enjoying my HT. It isn't perfect by any means but the only thing that matters is that I'm happy once again :D

All of the above happened last year. Once this year started, I started getting that familiar itch to add onto my HT 😅 But I didn't want to spend a lot of money. So I ended up getting a pair of Dayton Audio BST-1 Bass Shakers from the US for $110.

View attachment 89345

View attachment 89346

Received them last night and fixed them to my recliners (one each). The installation was fairly straightforward. Wired them in series to get an 8ohm load and connected it to my Crown XLS 2502 amp. Set the LPF crossover at 80hz (as per Dayton Audio's recco) and watched the ending of Top Gun: Maverick. Couldn't crank it up because it was late night but I have a feeling that I'll reduce the crossover to 60 or 50hz. But all in all, this is a nice and relatively cheap upgrade and I'm sure I'll have fun with it 😁

Note: For the eagle eyed viewers, you might have noticed that the top mounting holes are empty. That's because the bass shaker was hitting the recliner's mechanism when fully reclined. When I have more patience, I'll get a wide plank of wood as a platform so that I'm able to screw in all 4 mounting holes. But even in this configuration, it's mounted solidly.

More importantly, the huge lesson I learnt last year was to just enjoy this hobby and the journey instead of fussing over the details ;) When I'm able to do a dedicated HT, I'll bring in the professionals. Until then, I'm going to choose to be happy with my imperfect HT 😄. That doesn't mean you guys can't point out what I've done wrong (I'm sure there's a lot of room for improvement). I appreciate feedback but I'll get to it when I can :)
you finally bought a tonewinner. which was my first suggestion for you.
 
Hey..
Yeah... Doing awesome 😎
You must EQ it manually.
Check the simulation graphs of this driver- see the max spl attained at 20hz( you will be surprised ) - EQ it in such a way that everything above 20hz is brought down to the level of 20hz.

I hope the amp is in bridge mode when you are doing all this

I extremely surprised that you bought a tone winner sub after having a 21" sealed sub
may be due to eq issues or due to hpf filters, he was not getting much output below 35 hz.
 
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