Movies that should be given the 3D treatment

[max123_ind]

I think "9" is a movie that is long overdue. The 2D itself has a lot of depth to it. It would be even nicer in 3D. (it's a rather dark film though)

Which films do you guys think should be given 3D treatment?

 

[hildebrand]

I think I'd love to see the Superman series in 3D

 

[mathan]

I would rather not watch the 2D converted 3D movies. Jurassic Park, Titanic, Top Gun are some of the movies converted to 3D. Jurassic Park was somewhat better but other movies are just hype. I was not able to sit through Titanic in 3D and the same goes to Top Gun. The depth is surely missing in these converted 3D movies. It is my personal opinion but for others it might differ.

 

[Santy]

All successful animated movies can be easily converted into 3D I guess and they will look good too.

 

[aneelr]

All successful animated movies can be easily converted into 3D I guess and they will look good too.

Almost all animated movies post AVATAR is true stereo. But again, even a non-stereo animated movie converted to stereo would end up something like what mathan has experienced.

 

[Santy]

But again, even a non-stereo animated movie converted to stereo would end up something like what mathan has experienced.

3D conversion of a normal movie and an animated movie are not the same if I am not wrong.

When we talk about converting animated movies, we are not doing that on the final flat rendered copy. We can always get back to the original source files and rework on that. Its a matter of increasing depth by tweaking the lightning & shadows, adding a second camera in user point of view and re-rendering the entire movie. Remember that the original animation itself is done in 3D and rendered in mono.

Such a conversion will result in a quality that is comparable to a native stereoscopic movie. Best example: Finding Nemo 3D.

 

[aneelr]

3D conversion of a normal movie and an animated movie are not the same if I am not wrong.

When we talk about converting animated movies, we are not doing that on the final flat rendered copy. We can always get back to the original source files and rework on that. Its a matter of increasing depth by tweaking the lightning & shadows, adding a second camera in user point of view and re-rendering the entire movie. Remember that the original animation itself is done in 3D and rendered in mono.

Such a conversion will result in a quality that is comparable to a native stereoscopic movie. Best example: Finding Nemo 3D.

In majority of the cases, immaterial of animated or live action movies, the conversion from non-stereo to stereo adopted is the same. i.e post conversion. But yeah, Pixar's Finding Nemo and Monster's Inc. were an exception. They choose to entirely recreate their movie in true stereo, and that comes at a huge cost. In the span of 10yrs, from the original release of Nemo in 2003 to the time when they decided to recreate the entire movie for stereo, Pixar's softwares to create movies had very sophisticated update. So to make things work with the current generation softwares, Pixar took 9 months. And another 9 months after that to re-create the stereo version. So they did it in 18 months, where as a post stereo conversion takes only a couple of months and in a fraction of the cost. Even we at DreamWorks Animation Studios wanted to do the Shrek(1/2/3) series as a true stereo, but the budget was way too high, even though our software updates were not as sophisticated as Pixar's. So yeah, I guess no other studio would dare to invest in an actual re-creation of a non-stereo movie to true stereo like Pixar did.


Cheers.

 

[jls001]

Matrix series.

 

[Santy]

In majority of the cases, immaterial of animated or live action movies, the conversion from non-stereo to stereo adopted is the same. i.e post conversion. But yeah, Pixar's Finding Nemo and Monster's Inc. were an exception. They choose to entirely recreate their movie in true stereo, and that comes at a huge cost. In the span of 10yrs, from the original release of Nemo in 2003 to the time when they decided to recreate the entire movie for stereo, Pixar's softwares to create movies had very sophisticated update. So to make things work with the current generation softwares, Pixar took 9 months. And another 9 months after that to re-create the stereo version. So they did it in 18 months, where as a post stereo conversion takes only a couple of months and in a fraction of the cost. Even we at DreamWorks Animation Studios wanted to do the Shrek(1/2/3) series as a true stereo, but the budget was way too high, even though our software updates were not as sophisticated as Pixar's. So yeah, I guess no other studio would dare to invest in an actual re-creation of a non-stereo movie to true stereo like Pixar did.

Cheers.

I agree with you on the cost and time thing. Honestly I do not have insights of the industry. But question was not how long it took or how feasible it is. It was about movies desirable to be watched in 3D and that animated movies could be more effective in conversion than filmed movies. But it was mentioned that animated ones will follow same technique and face same drawbacks which is not true. I also wonder if reworked movies are 'entirely recreated'. The article linked below does explain about the complexity of making Nemo 3D. May be I am wrong but it also implies that no re-modelling of characters & objects were done but for some adjustments in depth and dynamics. Why Converting Pixar Movies to 3D Is No Easy Feat - Tested

"In the original movie they took great care in the number of specks and volume of specks...of particulate matter," Whitehill says, referring to the bits of plankton or dirt that floated in Nemo's ocean. "We found in general that when you have that floating stuff in 3D, it feels like there's more of it than in a 2D space, so we could reduce it." The team had to reduce the volume of the specks and rearrange them so that they didn't float in front of the audience's vision and make the entire film look murky.

Quick googling reveals that more and more movies are being reworked / planned for 3D release. May be they are all Pixar but it is happening. It all depends on how much people welcome the idea of watching the old movie again in 3D format. BTW do you work for Dreamworks?

 

[mathan]

3D conversion of a normal movie and an animated movie are not the same if I am not wrong.

When we talk about converting animated movies, we are not doing that on the final flat rendered copy. We can always get back to the original source files and rework on that. Its a matter of increasing depth by tweaking the lightning & shadows, adding a second camera in user point of view and re-rendering the entire movie. Remember that the original animation itself is done in 3D and rendered in mono.

Such a conversion will result in a quality that is comparable to a native stereoscopic movie. Best example: Finding Nemo 3D.

I don't know about the animated movies converted to 3D. Maybe they have good depth after reworking like how Pixar does it. Probably when we watched a movie like Titanic or Top Gun and after converting that to 3D it was kind of boring to watch that over again in 3D however good the depth and angle is. Probably should catch a 3D converted movie before watching it in 2D.

 

[aneelr]

.... But it was mentioned that animated ones will follow same technique and face same drawbacks which is not true. I also wonder if reworked movies are 'entirely recreated'.

Your right, reworked movies are not entirely recreated, but there is something which is called rendering out the frames, and this is easily somewhere around 25-50 million hours for the entire movie and it consumes around 150-200 TB of disk space. And these two things TIME and SPACE are very costly, which is why I was mentioning other Animation studios are unlikely to invest like Pixar did, so they would end up with the basic 2D to 3D post conversion. And you are right, animated movie have an edge over live action movies when stereo convertion happens.

Quick googling reveals that more and more movies are being reworked / planned for 3D release. May be they are all Pixar but it is happening.

I'll have to find this out.

BTW do you work for Dreamworks?

And yeah I work for DreamWorks.



Cheers.