Need experiences of Technics, please...

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There is a Technics SL 1210 MK3 available cheap. It is in good condition except that its stylus/needle needs replacement. Mr. Kuruvila Jacob does not seem to be a fan of direct drive TT's (I wrote to him) but my interest in this is because I don't own any TT's, have no collection of records, do not expect to invest too heavily into this side as I have a decent digital based music system, records (you really want) are not easy to obtain, and I do not believe the Technics is just a DJ stuff as several users I know speak high of them. I am not looking for audiphile performances but just a nice little TT I can use with a limited number of albums (I have to buy) once in a while. Later, If I became an addict to the vinyl sound, well, we will face it then.

If anyone here is using these, I shall be grateful if he or she is willing to share the experiences and honest opinions.

Thanks in advance.
murali
 
The asking price is $250 but there is scope for bargaining. I am not competent to judge the condition in minute detail. The seller has two TT's and he will demonstrate the one he is selling using the tonearm of the other. I may find someone here to help me a bit more should I decide.

murali
 
Hi Murali,

It will be a darn good entry point into vinyl that will last you a while. Idlers, direct drives, belt drives have their own pros and cons but for someone like you who's getting a good deal I'd say go for it. You can always explore different flavours later on.

In fact its pretty plug and play unlike a garrard which you'd have to set up the tonearm, make a plinth, measure mounting hole distance, and a whole lot more. Also the control on the Technics are nice with dials and wheels for the adjustments which should let you ease into using it nicely without you having to break your head too much.

Go for it! :)

Regards
 
Technics SL1200/SL1210 has serious fan following around the world. It is an excellent turntable and built solidly to last very very long. Every turntable has detractors and fans. I belong to the fan club as I have two of them apart from host of other turntables and have paired them with very good quality MM/MC cartridges and they work well.

SL1200 also has a huge potential for mods if one were to be interested. Check the web. 250 bucks is a steal if the condition is good. Every kind of spare is available for SL1200/1210 if something were to go wrong.

I will highly recommend.
 
SL1200 in its various avatars is legendary. I have fairly extensive experience with 1210/II in stock form. I find the sound very agreeable. And it plays the Denon DL 103 cartridge well which was a pleasant revelation for me. Coming as I do from a background of vintage idler drives, the greatest conveniences of the SL1210 is the almost instantaneous start/stop (especially the stop), strobe on the platter with built-in lighting for speed measurement, and the speed adjustment slider (although one doesn't really need to use it for day to day listening as speed is so accurate). But the coolest feature is the calibrated VTA adjustment - every turntable must have this feature mandated by law:lol:. And 250 dollars is fair price if you are ready for the (possible) import hassles. The going price in India is obscene. Just check out OLX or quickr.
 
Being a basic level vinyl listener, can vouch for the capability of Technics 1200 MK II listening since past 3 years.

It's complete plug and play type, if somebody needs to modify that's doable too. Speed is superb accurate owing to quartz lock. Needs to adjust my Rotel player most of the time in comparison to that.

Shure cartidges team up fine with this player. Almost all components and parts are available though it's built like a tank. And the sound quality: just AMAZING.
 
There is a Technics SL 1210 MK3 available cheap. It is in good condition except that its stylus/needle needs replacement. Mr. Kuruvila Jacob does not seem to be a fan of direct drive TT's (I wrote to him) but my interest in this is because I don't own any TT's, have no collection of records, do not expect to invest too heavily into this side as I have a decent digital based music system, records (you really want) are not easy to obtain, and I do not believe the Technics is just a DJ stuff as several users I know speak high of them. I am not looking for audiphile performances but just a nice little TT I can use with a limited number of albums (I have to buy) once in a while. Later, If I became an addict to the vinyl sound, well, we will face it then.

If anyone here is using these, I shall be grateful if he or she is willing to share the experiences and honest opinions.

Thanks in advance.
murali

Having experienced all three worlds, belt drives, idler drives and direct drives, IMO, some swear by idlers because of the punch in the music, some swear by belt drives because of the flow of music while some swear by direct drives because of "accuracy". Technics is considered the father direct drives and rightly so. If you are very keen about the accuracy of your music, in relation to speed (pitch), wow and flutter, etc, then nothing can beat a Technics direct drive. A good way to test this would be to listen to a piano performance or christmas bells tingling. Another aspect (again, IMO and from my experience) is that people invest heavily in Garrards and Thorens not just for the performance but also for the bragging rights accquired out of customization and ownership. In the flow of it all, somehow the SL1200 is forgotten most of the time. To my ears and from what all I've listened to (and there is a fair deal of them, I must say), the SL1200 is without doubt, the best TT I have heard till this point.

The SL1200 is also one of the sturdiest turntables ever built (built like a tank is a common way to describe it) and can take a ton of abuse for years together and still sing. Imagine if a Rega or Project was put through this kind of abuse, they would probably fall to bits in no time.

However, the risk at buying the SL1200 pre-used in the American, British, German and Far East market is that there is no gaurantee that the deck was not previously used for heavy duty DJing. A lot of American, European DJs and Asian DJs are going digital and that's resulted in a large influx of SL1200s on eBay. The bearing assembly and tonearm pivot assembly (and lift mechanism) are the most effected by hardcore DJing. May be difficult on eBay but there's nothing like inspecting it (and perhaps auditioning it) before buying.

Overall, IMO, you cant go wrong with deciding in favour of the SL1200
 
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Thanks.

It is not through ebay and is from a local guy who owns two of them but wants to sell one. I can inspect it before buying. The owner is not DJ but has been using them at his home.

Apart from Shure, I hear that Denon DL-103 is a good mating cartridge for it. Any opinions? I am not sure whether Audio Technica cartridges may do well as they are available here. Should I buy the TT, I also have to start looking for a phono stage. Any recommendations?

Thanks to all.
murali
 
When Mr.Murali first send a PM to me, he mentioned that he is looking for a very good TT(No budget constraints). I had offered Dual 1019(I had two of them at that time) Both sold to Forum Members since then. Then recently he sent me a PM asking for my opinion about Technics SL 1210 Mark 3. He did not mention he was getting it cheap . When someone was willing to shell out money (That was my impression) spending Rs 50K or above for a Technics SL1210 series is not worth it. This was what I was trying to impress him. I know many potential vinyl users want to listen to vinyl as they may have heard it years back and I feel a heavily damped DDs like SL 1210 series cannot produce that kind of vintage sound as well as a good suspended player like AR,Thorens and the like. It's not that I was trying to devalue the Technics. In fact, I have the original Technics SL 1200 with TPA arm and it is a wonderful player though not made for DJ purpose and I had two brand new Technics SL 1210 mark 3 which were sold by me as I found their sound quality no match for my original SL1200
 
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Hi Mr. Kuruvila,

Have you received my PM please? For some reason, it doesn't show in my 'sent folder'?? Let me know. Thanks!

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The asking price is $250 but there is scope for bargaining. I am not competent to judge the condition in minute detail. The seller has two TT's and he will demonstrate the one he is selling using the tonearm of the other. I may find someone here to help me a bit more should I decide.

murali

Just check the TT and see if it is working and speed is right .
If that person says he does not have headshell or carts not working - be aware! Get ant cart fitted headshell from friend and test .Take any knowledegabl friend

The very low price and 2 TTS with one person ,and his claim not being a dealer aroses doubt.

Iff all is ok grab it! All the best!!
 
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