Panasonic 42" X30 vs U30

[sammee]

Hi friends,
I have been searching for a plasma tv for some time now and have zeroed on to X30, but recently i saw in panasonic india web site that U30 has also been released. The problem is that i have not seen a single piece demo in any of the brand shops(or any other shops) i have been to. The specification of u30 says that it is a full hd tv but has 900 lined of moving picture resolution which is not complete hd(in x30 it is 720 lines).The u30 has 6144 steps of gradation whereas X30 has 4096.No other difference. If anyone has seen u30 and x30 side by side, would you please recommend me which to buy.

if X30 and u30 has almost equal picture quality then i would go for X30 as it is cheaper.

 

[riteshmadhok]

I have the same question, the price for the X30 and U30 are not same, there is a diff of about 8k between them.

 

[saurabh1982]

Yes there is noticeable difference in quality between the twos. That's why I choose U30 over X30.

 

[just4kix]

PQ difference will be there but whether you can detect it or not depends upon the viewing distance and what you are viewing. For a 42" TV:

Watching 576i/p (SD) or 720i/p (near HD) source at a distance of 8 feet or above:
- you will find some difference (but not a lot) in moving pictures between X30 and U30
- you will notice immediate difference when pure text is displayed (e.g., titles)
- At a distance of 5 feet or less, you may notice some difference in moving picture as well.

Watching 1080i/p (true HD) source at a distance of 8 feet or above:
- you will find almost no difference in moving pictures between X30 and U30
- you will notice immediate difference when pure text is displayed (e.g., titles)
- At a distance of 5 feet or less, you may notice some difference in moving picture as well.

 

[BLASTO]

In pratical life, you wont find a difference >=8 feet. Bad PQ of the DTH will be the most deciding factor than minor changes in PQ these sets might have.

 

[sammee]

Thankz guys for helping me out. I think i will go for the x30 as my viewing distance is more than 12 feet so i hope I will get almost the same picture quality and also i can save some money.

 

[just4kix]

Thankz guys for helping me out. I think i will go for the x30 as my viewing distance is more than 12 feet so i hope I will get almost the same picture quality and also i can save some money.

Anyway, check for yourself and decide.

 

[sammee]

Anyway, check for yourself and decide.

ya, i am aiming to buy the tv on 15th august, hoping to get some more discounts and also hope to see the U30 on demo by that time to compare, though i am a bit inclined towards X30 from the specifications that you have given. Thanks again for the recommendation.

 

[soundnovice]

hi sammee,

yest. i had demo of x30 in rajajinagar bangalore shop. i did not compare u30 with x30 as my budget is limited to 40k strictly. however u30 was playing next to x30. i did not find PQ difference much. i m planning to buy in july. may i know where are u situated?

thanks
shivap

 

[h_bharti]

Hi there,

Iam also confused like you, but after seeing PQ of V20 and comparing it with X30 the following are the observations which forcing me to go for U30:

1.) Text (especially in white font) are look much smooth/natural in V, in X30 text shows their edges.
2.) Running scripts like ticker of shares and other info flickers a bit in X30 but not even slight hint of jaddering in V.
2.1) While in near future if u get full HD material and want to play on ur HD TV than u might think wish i would have purchased FHD instead of HD.
3.) Checked on Phone from Panasonic Brandshops: U30 is around 45-47K. If u press hard from non panny shops u might get it in 43-44 and paying 6-7k preminum for Full HD and other features are not a bad deal.
4.) If ur planning to get it in August then u might get some Monsoon offer as well as by that time prices will come down to 42-44k (lets hope for the best)

Anyhow wait for some time like me and do a thorough survey of market and than make a decision.....:licklips:

 

[soundnovice]

hi bharti,
planning to buy this month end. i m not interested in full hd as i am damn sure its not going to make much difference even if in near future any 1080p channel comes. let me kno if ur planning to go for x30. we can bargain.

thanks
shivap

 

[sunilraj]

Can any body give their opinion between Pana 50U30D vs Sam 51D550. The price difference is about 3K Pana-66k vs Sam-69K. To me samsung display looked cool. But a more technical advice on PQ difference will be appreciated.

Sorry for Off topic query.

 

[soundnovice]

hi sunilraj,
go for panasonic. they are the best in plasma tvs. plus u wil get 3 year warranty which i beileve is not offered by samsung.

regards,
shivap

 

[saurabh1982]

Go for Panasonic only and in comparison to X30 I would suggest go for U30 as for extra 7-8000 you are getting full hd, big contrast ratio. Just don't think you will save 8000 Rs. but think that that in 8000 more Rs. you are getting all features in a TV. You will forget in coming days that you have spend 8000 more. Its always good to have fully featured set in home rather than under performer.

 

[h_bharti]

hi bharti,
planning to buy this month end. i m not interested in full hd as i am damn sure its not going to make much difference even if in near future any 1080p channel comes. let me kno if ur planning to go for x30. we can bargain.

thanks
shivap

Hi there,

I have seen SD content on HD and FHD side by side, the colour gradation actually works and shows the most neutral colour in FHD. The edges of pictures/text and fast moving objects are natural. The deapth in scene is more in FHD. In HD content, discovery/ten/nat geo etc the PQ shows much better results in FHD as comapred to HD (though the signals are HD only).

and whereas in future or even at present if u want to see any still images in FHD or movies captured by you or downloaded (ripped versions from net).

Games on PS3 & PS2, than u relaize the full potential of buying a FHD or may be at that time u'll cribb about why i bought HD in first place rather than FHD by paying just 7-8 K more. (be a future proof)hyeah:

Good luck for shopping and all the best for the least prices.

 

[sammee]

hi sammee,

yest. i had demo of x30 in rajajinagar bangalore shop. i did not compare u30 with x30 as my budget is limited to 40k strictly. however u30 was playing next to x30. i did not find PQ difference much. i m planning to buy in july. may i know where are u situated?

thanks
shivap

Sorry for the late reply, I was out of town and did not have any internet access.Anyways i am from kolkata. I was thinking to make the decision on which to go for (X30 or U30) only after the arrival of the u30, so until then i am waiting.

 

[sammee]

Hi there,

Iam also confused like you, but after seeing PQ of V20 and comparing it with X30 the following are the observations which forcing me to go for U30:

1.) Text (especially in white font) are look much smooth/natural in V, in X30 text shows their edges.
2.) Running scripts like ticker of shares and other info flickers a bit in X30 but not even slight hint of jaddering in V.
2.1) While in near future if u get full HD material and want to play on ur HD TV than u might think wish i would have purchased FHD instead of HD.
3.) Checked on Phone from Panasonic Brandshops: U30 is around 45-47K. If u press hard from non panny shops u might get it in 43-44 and paying 6-7k preminum for Full HD and other features are not a bad deal.
4.) If ur planning to get it in August then u might get some Monsoon offer as well as by that time prices will come down to 42-44k (lets hope for the best)

Anyhow wait for some time like me and do a thorough survey of market and than make a decision.....:licklips:

hi h_bharti,
one thing i want to say here is that the V20 series is a much higher class tv.....it can display 1080 lines and also its contrast ration is 5000000:1 as well as the new neo pdp panel. But in case of U30 everything is same as in X30 except that the display has 900 lines(which is not a true full hd), so my concern is whether the extra few lines make the picture so good that the price difference is comming to 6-7k. Though i wont take any decision until i have compared the u30 and X30 side by side.

 

[just4kix]

The only thing where the (now discontinued) V series betters the U series is the infinite black levels. All other factors are not really consequential.

• Dynamic Contrast Ratio: Don't get fooled by those "mad" figures such as 5000000:1 contrast ratio. This is dynamic contrast ratio. There is no scientific and uniform way of measuring it. Every applies their own method of measuring it and does not explain why/how. The DCR figure for one brand is no way equivalent to that of another brand. The figure only means that the native contrast ratio maybe (?) better than other with lower figure. DCR is a pile of nonsense. You cannot tell jack $hit from such absurd figures.
• If the TV has 900 lines of MPR that does not mean it is not Full HD. While 1080 MPR is better than 900 MPR, your eye will not be able to detect any difference. I can assure you of this. This is like one CPU runs at 2 GHz and the other runs at 2.2 GHz. The second computer will be better - but can you really tell the difference?

But as you stated, if the above distinguishing features were available for an extra 10k or less, that is worth it. Since the 'V' models are being phase out, the last remaining stock is being cleared at huge discounts. This makes it a very good deal. If the 50V20D is available for 80-85k, go for it.

But that is strictly a matter of opinion. "Value for money" is strictly a personal viewpoint. Someone may say that the 50V20 is totally VFM at 95-100k (original price) or the Oppo 93 is worth every cent at Rs. 35k - and they are correct from their viewpoint. Other may feel this as extravagence and oppulance.

 

[h_bharti]

Hi All,

Last week i have seen U20 on display side by side of X30 in Saket Mall.
There was a difference in PQ as the colurs were smooth and rich in U20, but white was not pure white it was off white in U 30. But in X30 White was pure white and colour gradation was also good but still below to U20.

Still Searching for a place where i can see U30 and X30 side by side before making final hit.
Finances are already arranged (streched my budget to 45k from initial 38k for FHD).

Guys is any one in Delhi have seen the Much Anicipated U30 on display side by side to X30???????

SO if u can spend 45K instead of 37 than go for a future proof plasma i.e. U30.

 

[just4kix]

Hi All,

Last week i have seen U20 on display side by side of X30 in Saket Mall.
There was a difference in PQ as the colurs were smooth and rich in U20, but white was not pure white it was off white in U 30. But in X30 White was pure white and colour gradation was also good but still below to U20.

Still Searching for a place where i can see U30 and X30 side by side before making final hit.
Finances are already arranged (streched my budget to 45k from initial 38k for FHD).

Guys is any one in Delhi have seen the Much Anicipated U30 on display side by side to X30???????

SO if u can spend 45K instead of 37 than go for a future proof plasma i.e. U30.

You can never be future proof but you can be safeguarded for a few years. If:

- you are mostly going to watch DTH/TV, DVD, dowloaded rips (incl 720p, 1080p)
- you viewing distance is over 8'
- you like to change TVs every 3 years or so

I will recommend X30. The difference between U30 and X30 at a distance of over 7-8 feet is minimal.

Go for U30 only if you are going to watch true Blu-Ray stuff.