TEAM HELP - 32 Inch LED (Non-3D)

[mylgcookie]

Dear all,

I'm happy to be part of this forum. I was a mute spectator reading all your views & discussions.., Now its time for me to step-in..,

I'm planning to buy 32 inch LED.., My budget is around Rs.35K & i can stretch it to 37K.., I have short listed..,
1. Pana TH-L32X50D
2. Samsung EH4500R
3. Pana 32E5D (though beyond my budget initially i hv planned to go 4this by thinking this might be around 38K. Was shocked wen inquired in nearby panny show where it is 45K)..,

Pls give ur advice.., Thanks in advance to all!!!

 

[Lijo]

Go for e5. Available around 39k

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[Vinod.R]

Dear all,

I'm happy to be part of this forum. I was a mute spectator reading all your views & discussions.., Now its time for me to step-in..,

I'm planning to buy 32 inch LED.., My budget is around Rs.35K & i can stretch it to 37K.., I have short listed..,
1. Pana TH-L32X50D
2. Samsung EH4500R
3. Pana 32E5D (though beyond my budget initially i hv planned to go 4this by thinking this might be around 38K. Was shocked wen inquired in nearby panny show where it is 45K)..,

Pls give ur advice.., Thanks in advance to all!!!

Hi mylgcookie,

I understand that you are planning to buy 32 inches (LED), I know this might take it off thread, but what about Plasma?

You can buy a HD ready 42 inches plasma for about Rs 33,000, so why 32 inches.

What about the Panasonic X50 Plasma, available for about Rs 33,000. It seems a lot of our forum members have bought.

Of course I dont know your viewing requirements, so cant comment with confidence.

Vinod

 

[jit_devil2]

if u r lookin for LED and smart tv not necessary go for 32eh5000 (32k)

 

[mylgcookie]

Thanks everybody 4 al ur suggestion. Dear lojo, may i know wher u bought e5 for 39k. wen i contacted nearby panny showroom near at chennai. they said Rs.44k as price for e5. even ebay is retailing for Rs.44k.
Dear vinod.. thanks 4 ur suggestion. from de beginnin i"m reluctant to. buy plasmas because of many reasons like burn in issues, inferior PQ compared to LED,power consumption.

More over, i like panny because of Edge LED compared to sammy which has backlighted led. but still i like sammy for their smart features. Suggestions are welcome. thank u.

 

[just4kix]

Thanks everybody 4 al ur suggestion. Dear lojo, may i know wher u bought e5 for 39k. wen i contacted nearby panny showroom near at chennai. they said Rs.44k as price for e5. even ebay is retailing for Rs.44k.
Dear vinod.. thanks 4 ur suggestion. from de beginnin i"m reluctant to. buy plasmas because of many reasons like burn in issues, inferior PQ compared to LED,power consumption.

More over, i like panny because of Edge LED compared to sammy which has backlighted led. but still i like sammy for their smart features. Suggestions are welcome. thank u.

The so-called disadvantages of plasma that you mention - inferior PQ, burn-in, etc. are absolutely untrue. But it is true that plasma will consume more power. Plasma gives more natural colours, deep blacks, high native contrast (> 10,000:1) and near instantaneous respose time (0.0001 ms). The best LEDs give 3000:1 native contrast and only the top end have response time of 2 ms. Once again only top end LED have the local dimming feature that produces enhanced blacks that are pleasing but still not comparable to plasma. LEDs yield more saturated colours but some people like that.

The important of black must be realized. If black is not black (but gray), all other colours also appear washed out. To compensate this, LCD and LED enhance or saturate the colours.

Note that I have nothing against LED too. I will recommend LED for the general people who mostly watch TV/DTH/Cable.

 

[Vinod.R]

I think you should go thru N number of TVs posts to realise that most people prefer plasmas in this segment to any LCD/LED you would care to buy!

But that is my opinion.

All the things you have said about plasmas are not strictly true.

Superior picture quality - plasma, Blackest of blacks - plasmas, power consumption - proper calibration can bring down power consumption.

Vinod

 

[Lijo]

Its in kerala man. Bismi gives it for that price

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[baijuxavior]

from de beginnin i"m reluctant to. buy plasmas because of many reasons like burn in issues, inferior PQ compared to LED,power consumption.

All TV experts in this forum say PQ of plasma is unbeatable. I suggest you to take a demo of both plasma and LED TV side by side.

 

[mylgcookie]

The so-called disadvantages of plasma that you mention - inferior PQ, burn-in, etc. are absolutely untrue. But it is true that plasma will consume more power. Plasma gives more natural colours, deep blacks, high native contrast (> 10,000:1) and near instantaneous respose time (0.0001 ms). The best LEDs give 3000:1 native contrast and only the top end have response time of 2 ms. Once again only top end LED have the local dimming feature that produces enhanced blacks that are pleasing but still not comparable to plasma. LEDs yield more saturated colours but some people like that.

The important of black must be realized. If black is not black (but gray), all other colours also appear washed out. To compensate this, LCD and LED enhance or saturate the colours.

Note that I have nothing against LED too. I will recommend LED for the general people who mostly watch TV/DTH/Cable.

Dear just4kix,
Thank you for ur detailed explanation on the Plasma technology.., Pretty informative.., Let me go & have Demo of Plasma & LEDs side by side..,
Is the fact that Plasmas look dull in Bright lighted Environment is true or not..?

 

[mylgcookie]

Good Afternoon everybody..!

Thanks for the pricing details Lijo.. Is there any1 from chennai & can tell the price of Panny32E5D, panny32X50D..,

Yesterday Visited Viveks Showroom at Purasaivakkam, Chennai & had a Demo of Sony Bravia EX550, Panny 32X50D.., Was extremely impressed by PQ of Bravia EX550..,
Pls help me to decide on the following..,

Panny 32X50D
Price: 35~36K
Display: EDGE LED
Web Browser: Not Available.
Media Formats playable: All most all except few.

Sony Bravia EX550
Price: 39K
Display: EDGE LED
Web Browser: Available.
Media Formats playable:Selected few only.
Added Advantage: All Sony Channels available for free when connected to Internet..,

Panny 32X50D
Price: 43K
Display: EDGE LED
Web Browser: Not Available.
Media Formats playable: All most all except few.

I was looking for a EDGE LED, SMART TV(Browser), GOOD PQ TELEVISION.., Sony Bravia EX550 beats Panny 32X50D & Panny 32E5D here., Whats your say guys.., Any impression / review about Sony 32EX550.

 

[lake1988]

If your priority is pq then go with sony.

 

[Lijo]

If you have money go with Panasonic e5, it's smart tv. Try to get it around 40k. X50 is waste instead go for e3d its 2011 model.

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[mylgcookie]

If you have money go with Panasonic e5, it's smart tv. Try to get it around 40k. X50 is waste instead go for e3d its 2011 model.

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i m inclining towards bravia EX550 because of following options:
EX550: SMART TV + WEB BROWSER + EDGE LED + LESS 40K Option..,
Though E5 is a Smart TV (Half-Smart TV), it doesn't have Web Browser..,
E5: SMART TV + EDGE LED + MORE THAN 40K..

Can any1 review & post any info / review about EX550.

 

[lake1988]

KDL-32EX550 : EX550 Series : BRAVIA HD TV (LED & LCD) : Sony India

Check this you can get full information regarding resolution, pq, aq, terminals etc.

 

[just4kix]

i m inclining towards bravia EX550 because of following options:
EX550: SMART TV + WEB BROWSER + EDGE LED + LESS 40K Option..,
Though E5 is a Smart TV (Half-Smart TV), it doesn't have Web Browser..,
E5: SMART TV + EDGE LED + MORE THAN 40K..

Can any1 review & post any info / review about EX550.

Please note that it is not as if you will desperately go wrong with an LED. It is just that size per size, plasma is cheaper. Plasma is not available below 42" and the entry level 42-inchers are HD-Ready, i.e., 720p. However, a full-HD 32" LCD/LED, brings no noticeable difference. the Panasonic 42X30D is HD-Ready and is an excellent model that will match many full-HD TVs.

At a viewing distance of 12 feet or more, 720p or 1080p does not make much difference.

In my opinion, a 32" TV is too small unless the distance from TV is less than 8 feet.

A TV is not something that you will buy often. Many people think that "42" or more is too big for my room or viewing distance". Nothing, and I repeat nothing, can be more of a misconception. Viewing distance, room size, etc., was a concern when watching CRT TVs where cathode rays and brightness of tube mattered. The flicker introduced by interlaced scan is also tiring for the eyes. It was best for the eyes to be away from the cathode ray tube.

This does not hold true for rear-projection TVs (not seen any more), plasma or LCD or LED. In fact, you can sit as close to a flat panel as possible - ever thought how close we work with an LCD monitor for the computer? In fact, the thumb rule is that the ideal distance of viewing is 2x the horizontal width of the TV panel (note that 32" or 42" is the diagonal width - horizontal width is lesser).

Another factor you should consider is that the LCD/LED/Plasma is a 16:9 TV while the traditional (CRT) TV is 4:3. So a 16:9 32" TV does not have larger viewing area than a 29" CRT TV. In fact the 32" 16:9 TV is more equivalent to the 25" 4:3 tube.

The whole point is that no size is big enough. A lot of people on the forum will cry the same thing - go for the biggest size possible that your budget allows. If necessary, save and inflate your budget so that you can buy a larger TV.

 

[just4kix]

Another note - all features such as Smart TV, browsing, web cam connectivity, You Tube, etc. are quite useless in my humble opinion. The novelty will wear off within six months - more likely within a month itself. Just to recap, the TV must have:

- excellent picture quality (blacks, natural colours, etc.)
- good sound quality
- good response time for fast moving action (no ghosting)
- should be able to play all kinds of video formats via USB

All other features are secondary. If one gets more features for the same price, then that is, as said, icing on the cake. Web connectivity, etc. means you will also have to buy a wi-fi dongle - very few TVs in 32" have built-in wi-fi.

 

[mylgcookie]

Please note that it is not as if you will desperately go wrong with an LED. It is just that size per size, plasma is cheaper. Plasma is not available below 42" and the entry level 42-inchers are HD-Ready, i.e., 720p. However, a full-HD 32" LCD/LED, brings no noticeable difference. the Panasonic 42X30D is HD-Ready and is an excellent model that will match many full-HD TVs.

At a viewing distance of 12 feet or more, 720p or 1080p does not make much difference.

In my opinion, a 32" TV is too small unless the distance from TV is less than 8 feet.

A TV is not something that you will buy often. Many people think that "42" or more is too big for my room or viewing distance". Nothing, and I repeat nothing, can be more of a misconception. Viewing distance, room size, etc., was a concern when watching CRT TVs where cathode rays and brightness of tube mattered. The flicker introduced by interlaced scan is also tiring for the eyes. It was best for the eyes to be away from the cathode ray tube.

This does not hold true for rear-projection TVs (not seen any more), plasma or LCD or LED. In fact, you can sit as close to a flat panel as possible - ever thought how close we work with an LCD monitor for the computer? In fact, the thumb rule is that the ideal distance of viewing is 2x the horizontal width of the TV panel (note that 32" or 42" is the diagonal width - horizontal width is lesser).

Another factor you should consider is that the LCD/LED/Plasma is a 16:9 TV while the traditional (CRT) TV is 4:3. So a 16:9 32" TV does not have larger viewing area than a 29" CRT TV. In fact the 32" 16:9 TV is more equivalent to the 25" 4:3 tube.

The whole point is that no size is big enough. A lot of people on the forum will cry the same thing - go for the biggest size possible that your budget allows. If necessary, save and inflate your budget so that you can buy a larger TV.

Thank you once again for ur effort to make me understand the plasma technology.., But your statement of plasmas being cheaper than LEDs appears not true..
Plasmas are always priced higher than LEDs.., Check out Panny Plasma series except few 2011 model 42X30D,etc..,

Almost all those Cheaper Plasmas will be HD ready only (not full HD) which seems to be a problem for a bigger display like 42inch to screen the videos smoothly..,particularly i dont want to go for 2011 model because i feel they are little outdated personally.., Pls check out this link to under stand the technical Evolution in LEDs & Plasmas of 2011 & 2012 models.

I too agree that TVs are not bought everyday & with that concept only i have expanded my budget twice from 33K to 35K & then to 39K. To be honest, i'm pretty tempted by ur explanation on plasmas & their cheapness.., But practically i would not find a 32 inch 2012 plasma model below 40K.. Can you list out your recommendations,their price & Model yr.

Thank you once again.., Have a nice Day!!!

 

[Lijo]

Plasmas don't come in 32

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[just4kix]

Thank you once again for ur effort to make me understand the plasma technology.., But your statement of plasmas being cheaper than LEDs appears not true..
Plasmas are always priced higher than LEDs.., Check out Panny Plasma series except few 2011 model 42X30D,etc..,

Almost all those Cheaper Plasmas will be HD ready only (not full HD) which seems to be a problem for a bigger display like 42inch to screen the videos smoothly..,particularly i dont want to go for 2011 model because i feel they are little outdated personally.., Pls check out this link to under stand the technical Evolution in LEDs & Plasmas of 2011 & 2012 models.

I too agree that TVs are not bought everyday & with that concept only i have expanded my budget twice from 33K to 35K & then to 39K. To be honest, i'm pretty tempted by ur explanation on plasmas & their cheapness.., But practically i would not find a 32 inch 2012 plasma model below 40K.. Can you list out your recommendations,their price & Model yr.

Thank you once again.., Have a nice Day!!!

When I said "plasma is cheaper than LED", you missed the qualification "size per size" (and also features such as PQ, SQ, etc. which I forgot to mention). For instance Panasonic 42ST30 priced around 70k. The nearest comparison in the LCD/LED range will be Samsung 40" Series 6 UA40ES6200R or Sony 42" 49NX720. Both are 78K or above.

The Panasonic 42X30D is priced around 35K whereas the nearest equivalent Samsung (UA40EH5000R) or Sony (40BX420) are around 47K (but both are full HD). LG will have a TV in a similar price range.

Secondly, I do not know of any plasma sold in India below 40".

Finally, I am not saying "go for plasma". All things considered, plasma may not be to your liking. Go to the showroom and check with your own eyes. You may like the vivid colours from LCD/LED better than the natural colours of plasma. Trust your eyes before trusting reviews. All I am saying is "try to get as big a size as your budget allows".