Terminated speaker cable
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I have attached a video link it will solve your problem.
Tip - Banana Plugs into AV Amp Speaker Wire Binding Posts - YouTube
Tip - Banana Plugs into AV Amp Speaker Wire Binding Posts - YouTube
koushik
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The video helped me as well, thanks.
gcpraveen
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Banana cable is must? Other than connecting / disconnecting easier , will that make any different in sound quality?
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I'm using DAC banana plugs unable to notice any change in the sound quality.
koushik
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No, infact bare wire will make the best connection. Bare wire IS the best way to do it, but it isn't always the easiest.
Hello all,
I just bought chord carnival silver screen cable 3 meter pair un-terminated. I was using moster 14guage cable previously using a profigold banana plugs. I changed the connections with the new cable and I could not make out any difference at all. Is it because I am using a cheap banana plug ? The chord terminators were costing 275 a piece. Will it make a difference if I use the chord terminating plugs or use bare wire to terminate ? Or i am not to be expecting any drastic change on the quality when changing the cables from monster 14awg to a chord carnival ss cable ?
TIA.
Regards,
Sabarish
I just bought chord carnival silver screen cable 3 meter pair un-terminated. I was using moster 14guage cable previously using a profigold banana plugs. I changed the connections with the new cable and I could not make out any difference at all. Is it because I am using a cheap banana plug ? The chord terminators were costing 275 a piece. Will it make a difference if I use the chord terminating plugs or use bare wire to terminate ? Or i am not to be expecting any drastic change on the quality when changing the cables from monster 14awg to a chord carnival ss cable ?
TIA.
Regards,
Sabarish
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Subarish, I doubt you'll hear any diff as both your cables are in the same kind of class... You gotta go further up.... Even then, the rest of your chain and it's ability to show you differences will come into play!
koushik
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What are your other components? The Amplifier and the speakers? Those should be transparent enough to tell you the difference.
2nd, use bare wire if you don't need to change the termination often. If at all you need to use banana plug use something made of pure copper and NOT brass or etc ...
Good morning Malvai and koushik and thanks for your comments.
The amp is CA651a and the speakers are elac fs57.2. I guess it makes sense that even if I change cables, unless I upgrade the components and source, there is not going to be much improvement!
The amp is CA651a and the speakers are elac fs57.2. I guess it makes sense that even if I change cables, unless I upgrade the components and source, there is not going to be much improvement!
I have done enough experiments in the last few days with various cables (ranging upto rs 26,000) + home made cable. Also between multiple interconnects (ranging from Rs 200 to > Rs 10,000). All I can say is that 6 pair of ears (mine, my son and my wife) couldn't make out any difference. The perceived difference comes only when you tell that the cable being is used is rs 26,000 or the cheap one. However, in blind testing, it was impossible to make out any difference. IMHO having a good RCA interconnect is more important because the audio power levels are very small. In contrast, speaker wire carry substantial higher power output and short speaker cable lengths should make no perceivable difference between different cable manufacturers or your home made cable with enough thickness of the copper wires (thicker the wire, lower is the DC resistance).
The Truth About Interconnects and Cables — Reviews and News from Audioholics
Rubbing the Snake Oil Out of Speaker Cables — Reviews and News from Audioholics
Whether it is silver wire with gold plated connectors or 16 AWG wire with nakamichi terminator or MX gold plated connectors, the result is the same.
With cheap RCA interconnects, however, there was a perceivable detection of hum at high volumes.
My setup is Cadence Arista + Cadence VA 1.0 tube amp.
I also cannot notice any difference in my Yamaha 667 AVR + Polk RTi A9 speakers.
Source is Marantz 6000 OSE
I have done other experimentation too. I can clearly make out difference between Yamaha AVR and Cadence Amp. I can clearly make out difference when I change my speakers between Cadence Arista and Polk RTi A9. I can clearly make out difference when the output is from my CD player, DAC, tape deck or turntable. In each of these cases, the sound signature changes. I can also clearly make out difference between a MP3 and the same song on a CD. But sadly with cables, no change could be noticed
I have read enough and so far I find only cable manufactures advocating high cost cables (with enough of scientific bullshit to confuse users). e.g. litz wire (which is of importance only when frequency reaches MHz), inductance (which can be negligible for short wires), capacitance (which also is extremely negligible if you separate the left and right cables) and resistance (which also is negligible for short cable lenghts and if the material is copper)
My scientific mind at the moment doesn't allow me to believe in costly cables. Cables are mostly snake oil (especially with experimentation made in the last few days) and So so far I firmly believe, costly cables will make no difference unless probably
1) something is wrong with the ears in my entire family
2) something is wrong with the music source
3) My Marantz CD 6000 OSE cd player is not audiophile enough
4) My HTPC with onboard realtek audio is not audiophile enough
5) My HTPC connected to ASUS Xonar DAC is not audiophile enough
I have spoken to people who have found out difference between ordinary cable and high cost cables. So I am confused and keep on trying these experiments with the hope that I can one day find out the difference with my own ears.
It is best to borrow cable and try it out. Buy it only if you can make out the difference. For all you know, your monster cable is as good as the carnival silver cable for your kind of setup and your ears.
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koushik
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Can you name the cables and interconnects that you used in these range and put some photos of them??
koushik
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On the contrary, when I replaced my Bandridge IC with the AudioQuest Turquoise, the change was night and day, whole tonality changed its color immediately. The sound was fuller adding magnificent depth into it.
This will be my last post arguing on the issue over here. As I think there is no point in arguing on an issue in which
1)you are happy with your view,
2)I am happy with my view and
3)we are not ready to exchange each other's view
So why do we argue as these things will not effect our listening experience
This will be my last post arguing on the issue over here. As I think there is no point in arguing on an issue in which
1)you are happy with your view,
2)I am happy with my view and
3)we are not ready to exchange each other's view
So why do we argue as these things will not effect our listening experience
I too believe that if it is possible for cable to make a difference, it could be in interconnects but that could happen if quality of your existing cable is bad or the cable is very long and improperly shielded. That is because the voltage/power levels are much lower (phono output, cd player output, preamp out, etc). Cables with long lengths, insufficient shielding, etc will cause degradation in signal and hence SQ can deteriorate.
I compared with Siltech New York MXT Professional Speaker Cable with home made cable. The home made cable has been made with 16 AWG OFC cable. The ends have been twisted and tinned with soldering rod. After that I have used gold plated banana spades from MX and the fake nakamichi banana plugs available on ebay. Read about Alan P. Kefauver, a classically trained musician and director of the Recording Arts and Sciences program at the Peabody Institute of Johns Hopkins University. "Has the wire been cryogenically frozen? Is it flat or round? It makes no difference, unless it makes you feel better." His choice for speaker wire? Good-quality 16-gauge zip wire.
http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/12/circuits/articles/23down.html
For the IC comparisions I used Siltech MXT pro IC with WBT connector, Tchernov Cuprum Classic IC, DAC ARX04A 2RCA TO 2RCA IC and dirt cheap Belkin RCA.
I have finally settled with my home made speaker cable and DAC ARX04A RCA (for looks and sturdiness).
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Thanks mbhangui for your views on this. I understand now that the interconnects should have been the first to be replaced. The ground up approach, from the source. I however have a less than 3k dvd player as cd source and a cheap belkin connector. For pc its again a 300 rupee belkin usb cable. I guess I will buy a cd player sometime in the future and good connecting cables and see the difference.
koushik
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USB cable won't make much of a difference - Only 0s or 1s they carry... no analogue signal.
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