UPS Fire - Anyone Recognize?

[ForensicMan]

Hello Everyone,

This is my first post on this forum. I am investigating a fire involving a UPS that is suspected of being the cause. The problem I am have is identifying the make and model of the unit. Do any of you recognize the UPS from the attached photos?

Thanks in advance for any assistance!

 

[gobble]

That looks like a 2U rack mount UPS. Google image search for "2U rack mount UPS" throws many similar images. You will have to track down the exactly similar ones with closer inspection of the many images.

~G0bble

 

[ForensicMan]

Thanks for the input Gobble. I'll check that out.

 

[ForensicMan]

Gobble,

I tried your google search. Didn't find anything that had the same configuration as the posted photos.

The only additional information I have on the unit is that it was purchased in 2005 or 2006 and the owner thinks it was an APC. I just haven't been able to find anything that looks similar.

 

[theironhorse]

http://excessups.com/images/SU2200RMXL3U_back.jpg

similar ones. very difficult to identify the exact model as there are new models with minor changes every 6 months..

seems to be IBM else APC 3U ups

 

[reignofchaos]

This looks like some sort of 2u rack mount smartups 1500va or so. However can't be 100 percent sure.

 

[gobble]

Gobble,

I tried your google search. Didn't find anything that had the same configuration as the posted photos.

The only additional information I have on the unit is that it was purchased in 2005 or 2006 and the owner thinks it was an APC. I just haven't been able to find anything that looks similar.

Well Google is the only source I have so I dont know where else to look. You may find a match on page 5 or 10 of search results if you keep at it.

Good luck!

 

[vardesh]

@forensicman : Can you open the UPS .Some info is always there on the chips on board.


Rgds,
Vardesh

 

[gobble]

@forensicman : Can you open the UPS .Some info is always there on the chips on board.


Rgds,
Vardesh

It is burnt and baked. What do you expect to see? Shining letters? :lol:

~G0bble

 

[theironhorse]

Gobble,

I tried your google search. Didn't find anything that had the same configuration as the posted photos.

The only additional information I have on the unit is that it was purchased in 2005 or 2006 and the owner thinks it was an APC. I just haven't been able to find anything that looks similar.

Its for sure an APC 8 out 2200-2500 VA UPS but not 2U.. instead its a 3U.

i see a RS232 serial and reset power switch along with ground screw near the fan. this is indeed APC. similar configuration were found in IBM 3000 VA however the power cord will run from centre instead of side.

 

[ForensicMan]

Its for sure an APC 8 out 2200-2500 VA UPS but not 2U.. instead its a 3U.

i see a RS232 serial and reset power switch along with ground screw near the fan. this is indeed APC. similar configuration were found in IBM 3000 VA however the power cord will run from centre instead of side.

What is the difference between the 3U and 2U units? Is it the height of the unit? Attached is a photo of a measurement of the height of the unit. To me the 3U looks taller than the one in this picture.

 

[ForensicMan]

@forensicman : Can you open the UPS .Some info is always there on the chips on board.


Rgds,
Vardesh

Here is the picture of the inside. I should also mention that I don't have the unit on hand. I am only working off of the photographs given. Believe me I would like to get a closer look at this thing in person.

 

[vardesh]

It is burnt and baked. What do you expect to see? Shining letters? :lol:

~G0bble

No, i was not expecting any Shining letters .


@forensicman :It seems the internal condition is not much of help.What are you investigating ?any insurance claim ?

Rgds,

Vardesh

 

[Shivam]

I don't know about the UPS but it made me realise the danger to my house due to all such electronics. I bought a few granite slabs to keep under UPS, stabs etc which were earlier or wooden shelves or directly on carpets. Planning to reduce the clutter of wires too very soon.

 

[ShaQ.Blogs]

Funny that I ran into this post. I was having a discussion with someone just last week on UPS. He was like, there are fires are being caused by UPS and its not just a one off incident. Apparently the cause is the fuse. When the load is such that the fuse should have blown, instead the fuse fails, and the wire becomes hot and causes a fire. The fuse being used in not the typical fuse with a current rating which melts and the circuit breaks. Apparently it is replaced by a different type of fuse.

Is this really the case or someone just ranting, that I dont know. Maybe someone here could shed some light on this.

 

[gobble]

One has to use fastblow fuses at some places and slowblow fuses are more appropriate elsewhere. Perhaps people are not realizing this and its causing fire hazards and accidents?

G0bble