oppo bdp 80 vs 83 - which one to buy ?

[amateur]

Hello all,

Need your inputs on this:

Current gears:

Samsung 32", full HD TV
Denon AVR 1306 (no HDMI input ofcourse)

Player should be capable of playing local DVDs, region free dvds, blue rays, mp3, mkv formats.

Planning to take the analog out of bdp 80(bcos of it's better DAC) to connect to denon avr so that I don't have to upgrade my Denon AVR for hd audio decoding.

In this scenario, can you please say which one is better oppo bdp80 or 83 ? 83 price seems to be very steep. bdp 80 - costly but still affordable.

Also, one basic question: If I take analog out from oppo and also coax out from OPPO , I should be able to decide on the audio mode from the AVR , whether I need analog or coax, is that right ?

 

[ashishkesarwani]

If you are going to watch a lot of DVDs then you should go with BDP-83 because of its upscaling engine which is far better than the 80 but in your case since you are going to use it with only a 32" display so this difference would not make any sense.
Go ahead with the Opp BDP-80 and you will not repent your decision.

 

[sud98]

Hello all,

Also, one basic question: If I take analog out from oppo and also coax out from OPPO , I should be able to decide on the audio mode from the AVR , whether I need analog or coax, is that right ?

+1 to ashish, the oppo 80 should be fine. The oppo allows all outputs to be active at the same time so you can decide at the AVR.

Do note that HD audio can only be sent via HDMI or analog outputs.

 

[illusion_heart]

Hello all,

Need your inputs on this:

Current gears:

Samsung 32", full HD TV
Denon AVR 1306 (no HDMI input ofcourse)

Player should be capable of playing local DVDs, region free dvds, blue rays, mp3, mkv formats.

Planning to take the analog out of bdp 80(bcos of it's better DAC) to connect to denon avr so that I don't have to upgrade my Denon AVR for hd audio decoding.

In this scenario, can you please say which one is better oppo bdp80 or 83 ? 83 price seems to be very steep. bdp 80 - costly but still affordable.

Also, one basic question: If I take analog out from oppo and also coax out from OPPO , I should be able to decide on the audio mode from the AVR , whether I need analog or coax, is that right ?

Where are you planning to buy the 80 or 83 from ?

 

[balajeem]

from the dealers in chennai, (decibels, chennai), 80 is affordable , comes to 34K , 83 is way beyond i.e. priced at 55K -

 

[gobble]

from the dealers in chennai, (decibels, chennai), 80 is affordable , comes to 34K , 83 is way beyond i.e. priced at 55K -

Are you guys mad?!!!!

It is 15k if purchased within USA. At double the price, it's not worth it. Get the Sony Bdp at 9999/- and live a peaceful life.

My Oppo80 is lying in box since it is not worthwhile as a CDP and I am not watching movies currently. It is certainly not worth twice it's value !!!

Edit: to be Very CLEAR the oppo DAC is Sh!t value for the extra 15k you intend to pay. Get a budget DAC like Beresford (or any other) for the same price and enjoy flexibility of using it with other sources

Sent from my iPod touch

 

[vivekam]

+1 to gobble's post.
Why pay an extra of 15K?

 

[balajeem]

one question on sony's bdplayer - it's region locked.

so, any blue ray disc that claims region-free can be played on sony and region c blue ray discs, right ?

 

[ashishkesarwani]

one question on sony's bdplayer - it's region locked.

so, any blue ray disc that claims region-free can be played on sony and region c blue ray discs, right ?

Yes you are absolutely right here.

 

[Electrify]

Oppo DAC is ok compared to other DVD players I have heard before like the denon 1920. Does sony BDP support DTS-MA ?

 

[square_wave]

Completely agree with Gobble.

A blu-ray player at 30k is a complete waste of money at this point of time. Prices are dropping all over the place. If you are a total HT enthusiast with lot of money to spare and want to extract that "tiny little bit extra" out of your blu ray discs and see it in your reference grade display, please go ahead. Otherwise just get your self a 10 k player from sony, philips, panasonic etc......

If you want cd playback, use the saved 20k to pick up some marantz, CA cd player.

 

[balajeem]

can you please suggest good models of cd player from marantz,ca ?

 

[sud98]

Edit: to be Very CLEAR the oppo DAC is Sh!t value for the extra 15k you intend to pay. Get a budget DAC like Beresford (or any other) for the same price and enjoy flexibility of using it with other sources

The Oppo BDP 83 uses the Cirrus 4398 DAC which is also used in the Marantz SA-15S2 and the Cambridge Audio Azur, so why do you think it is "Sh!t"?

I am not sure if the Beresford has a better DAC than the Cirrus 4398 so would be a better solution.

Although, I still agree with the rest of your statement that it may not make sense at that price point, I dont think the DAC can be the issue here.

I have personally not done a A/B comparison, so if you think there is a significant issue but it could be the rest of the components may not be as good as a dedicated CD player.

 

[gobble]

The Oppo BDP 83 uses the Cirrus 4398 DAC which is also used in the Marantz SA-15S2 and the Cambridge Audio Azur, so why do you think it is "Sh!t"?

I am not sure if the Beresford has a better DAC than the Cirrus 4398 so would be a better solution.

Although, I still agree with the rest of your statement that it may not make sense at that price point, I dont think the DAC can be the issue here.

I have personally not done a A/B comparison, so if you think there is a significant issue but it could be the rest of the components may not be as good as a dedicated CD player.

Hi Sud

I have heard the BD-83 and BD-80 in my own setup and compared to Cd6002 individually. It is good for background listening when not paying attention to music, but lacks that quality that makes an entry into "audiophile" class - even a budget one. The body and tone is where it lacks.

The Sh!t was to emphasize the 15K premium being contemplated by a member for considering its DAC. Certainly not worth any extra money if one wants a tongue tickling foretaste of audiophile SQ.

Edit: As to why it wont t match and compare to SQ of a SA-15S2, the details of the implementation make all the difference I suppose.

Hope the Sh!t is now cleared :lol:

Cheers

 

[square_wave]

Comparing chip specs in different boxes is one the most misleading things in audio. It does not mean anything. Everything is in the implementation! Of course you need a good chip to start with. But that is about it !

 

[square_wave]

can you please suggest good models of cd player from marantz,ca ?

The 6000 series from marantz is good. The CA 640C is good too.

 

[KDM]

Yes, the Sony BDP-S370 supports DTS-HDMA.

 

[sud98]

I agree to an extent with both Gobble and Square Wave that you would have better audio through dedicated cd players. However, the OP has not asked for audiophile systems. Why do you audio buffs think that its ok to compromise on video but not on audio

I am not saying the oppo is great in audio but its the best audio you can get out of a bd player at that price (30k).

Also, one would not just have to invest in a dedicated cdp(20k for a budget) but the next step would be to invest in a pre-amp(optional) and a stereo amp(Another 20k). So you are suggesting a dedicated setup of around 40k for someone who may not even listen to music a lot.

The Sony is a good buy from most video respects however, the region free issue is a big factor. As BD's in India are at an avg 300-500 Rs. costlier than their UK/US counterparts so you recover the additional investments.

Also, the upscaler is a key esp. when you have source materials other than 1080p, so for most downloaded materials, dvd's the upscaler would be crucial.

 

[gobble]

I agree to an extent with both Gobble and Square Wave that you would have better audio through dedicated cd players. However, the OP has not asked for audiophile systems. Why do you audio buffs think that its ok to compromise on video but not on audio

I am not saying the oppo is great in audio but its the best audio you can get out of a bd player at that price (30k).

Also, one would not just have to invest in a dedicated cdp(20k for a budget) but the next step would be to invest in a pre-amp(optional) and a stereo amp(Another 20k). So you are suggesting a dedicated setup of around 40k for someone who may not even listen to music a lot.

The Sony is a good buy from most video respects however, the region free issue is a big factor. As BD's in India are at an avg 300-500 Rs. costlier than their UK/US counterparts so you recover the additional investments.

Also, the upscaler is a key esp. when you have source materials other than 1080p, so for most downloaded materials, dvd's the upscaler would be crucial.

Hmm ok, but the OP kinda hinted he wanted to invest the extra $$$ bucks because of its DAC. Besides is the Sony player @9999/- seriously poorer in PQ than the BD-83 to warrant an extra 20K?

Regards

 

[sud98]

The OP hasnt added a single reply since a week, so I guess we are the fools discussing amongst ourselves

He has mentioned in a separate thread that he has an AVR which doesnt have a HDMI input. The Sony doesnt have a seven channel analog output. So if he wants decoding of HD signals he will need a bdp which can give analog 7.1.

He could choose other models not necessarily something costing more than 20k but it all depends upon the perception of value.

Someone may find a 20k speaker good enough and another may find a 2 lakh speaker not good enough.

This is esp. true in upscaling and analog capabilities where one needs to see or hear to find the difference and whether it makes sense to you.

So the options for the OP are - buy a Sony or Philips at 10k but upgrade to a HDMI capable AVR for around 20k - net spend 30k, see region free or Region C BD's

or buy a mid-range Panasonic or Oppo which will cost around 15-20k and use existing AVR, view all region BD's

or buy a high end bdp at 30k, get a better audio/video experience

I would suggest the second as at a 32 inch screen there is hardly a difference and I can say that with personal experience. I bought it as I would want to upgrade to a larger screen in the near future and dont want to upgrade the player for the next 5 yrs.