2500 Lm Bright LEd PROJECTOR

O&B HCA300 Power Amplifier
can't figure out if they have a zoom or a lens shift.
Also in the second one, the native resolution mentioned in grey is 800x600.
 
kaushik said:
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gooood deal , guys dont sit for full HD , the 720p is EEEnough for 130 inch screen , Grab it! I am happy user of SXGA projector by dell

I see lot of optoma fever here ...there are good devices from others too :ohyeah:
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Price $399
Shipping $100
Customs ~$150
Total $650 which is approx Rs 32500 for a XGA(1024x768) projector... You can order a optoma or acer XGA projector for approx Rs 26-27k so y buy a unbranded one for 32k... Hell one member (Fusebulb) got a HD66 720p projector(1280x720) for 30k from amazon... Even as of today you can buy a Acer H5360 for 34k or a Benq W700 for 38k...
 
optoma fever ! I cant help you.
Luxcine/led66/led33 : are some good members
most shipping services take 2-2.5 k shipping till 3 kg
+ 2k customs(if u know how to declare)
24k landing price LED projection , deal

there are also hitachi /epson etc models in 380USd
 
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kaushik said:
optoma fever ! I cant help you.
Luxcine/led66/led33 : are some good members
most shipping services take 2-2.5 k shipping till 3 kg
+ 2k customs(if u know how to declare)
24k landing price LED projection , deal

there are also hitachi /epson etc models in 380USd
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Hmm Still trying to figure out how you got the 24k figure... The price of the projector itself is $499(399+100 shipping)... There is no way around the $100 shipping...You are charged $100 which ever country you choose... This product ships from china but there is no option to get it delivered to china to avoid the shipping charge... So that makes it 25k just the basic cost of the projector... Considering you can get the customs down to 2k the final price is still 27k(according to ur figures)... Also to get 2k customs figure Seller has to declare the price of this projector as Rs7-8k... All this for a Chinese brand projector when you can get a acer or another decent brand projector for approx Rs25k delivered... I dont have anything against chinese products... Infact around 8 months ago I bought a 1080p Media player from Dealextreme & it is working beatifully... I got it for ~Rs1500 so I am happy... But if I had to pay say Rs2500-3000 for it then I would have bought a asus oplay mini instead for Rs3.5k... If you really want a decent deal on a LED XGA projector then chk out the one from Favi listed on Amazon.. It is for 20k delivered to ur doorstep with customs paid...

What I really find interesting is that with this thread you are showing signs that you want to help ppl get a good deal on a projector... But you refuse to tell anyone on this forum where you bought a Dell M110 from for Rs15k... If you really want to help ppl tell us where you got the dell projector from instead of defending this overpriced Chinese projector so others too can enjoy that M110 deal... Although as far as I have chked Rs15k for the M110 is probably not true...But I would be more than happy if you prove me wrong :) ...
 
Branded projector cos are struggling to go past 500 lumens for LED. I am doubtful this no brand, chinese projector is able to put 2500 lumens. No info about chip, lens type, contrast nos, 4:3 aspect ratio, no concrete info about manufacturer. I would stay away, it has disaster written all over it.

Unless, you have Rs 30k to throw out of the window, that's another thing. :)
 
rajadeep said:
Hmm Still trying to figure out how you got the 24k figure... The price of the projector itself is $499(399+100 shipping)... There is no way around the $100 shipping...You are charged $100 which ever country you choose... This product ships from china but there is no option to get it delivered to china to avoid the shipping charge... So that makes it 25k just the basic cost of the projector... Considering you can get the customs down to 2k the final price is still 27k(according to ur figures)... Also to get 2k customs figure Seller has to declare the price of this projector as Rs7-8k... All this for a Chinese brand projector when you can get a acer or another decent brand projector for approx Rs25k delivered... I dont have anything against chinese products... Infact around 8 months ago I bought a 1080p Media player from Dealextreme & it is working beatifully... I got it for ~Rs1500 so I am happy... But if I had to pay say Rs2500-3000 for it then I would have bought a asus oplay mini instead for Rs3.5k... If you really want a decent deal on a LED XGA projector then chk out the one from Favi listed on Amazon.. It is for 20k delivered to ur doorstep with customs paid...

What I really find interesting is that with this thread you are showing signs that you want to help ppl get a good deal on a projector... But you refuse to tell anyone on this forum where you bought a Dell M110 from for Rs15k... If you really want to help ppl tell us where you got the dell projector from instead of defending this overpriced Chinese projector so others too can enjoy that M110 deal... Although as far as I have chked Rs15k for the M110 is probably not true...But I would be more than happy if you prove me wrong :) ...
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Not all deals I can reveal,
oh ok ...i did not check US is also 100USd shipping, there are other ways to get it

-catch the supplier over ALiExpress(private message),
-fix a deal , get via ARAMEx shipping will b 2k or so
-or seller agrees to do china AIRMAIL it may be free or 15USD shipping
@rajadeep deals float all over net for eg Viewsonic-PLED-W500
Viewsonic PLED-W500 WXGA Portable LED Projector $399.99 - Slickdeals.net
just clicking amazon dot com you cant conclude all!



regarding my dell m110 :
come n see here records realtime
 
kaushik said:
Not all deals I can reveal,
oh ok ...i did not check US is also 100USd shipping, there are other ways to get it

-catch the supplier over ALiExpress(private message),
-fix a deal , get via ARAMEx shipping will b 2k or so
-or seller agrees to do china AIRMAIL it may be free or 15USD shipping
@rajadeep deals float all over net for eg Viewsonic-PLED-W500
Viewsonic PLED-W500 WXGA Portable LED Projector $399.99 - Slickdeals.net
just clicking amazon dot com you cant conclude all!



regarding my dell m110 :
come n see here records realtime
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You mean this??? Wholesale 3* HDMI LED Projector Native 1280*800 HD Ready For Education

Its $462 for that same projector with free shipping... & maybe you can talk to to the supplier to stick a bill with lower price on the box to save a few thousands in customs... All this is fine but my point wasn't whats the best way to buy this projector but rather should anyone buy this projector at all... It has literally no reviews no brand name & is at a similar price to most of the good branded projectors... So pls explain the exact USP you see in this projector that you are recommending it??? The only reason ppl buy a chinese product is coz its damn cheap... Not many ppl want to buy a chinese product at the same price as a good company branded product(there are ofcourse a few exceptions)... Also pls follow my posts more carefully before accusing me of just quoting amazon prices... I have recommended the Acer H5360 to a member when it was on sale for $470 on newegg... I myself was considering the Panasonic AE7000 when it was on sale for $2599 on Visualplex... The reason I prefer Amazon is that they have a good rep regarding customer service & they deliver directly to ur home with no hassles on your part...

Also regarding the Dell M110... I have no problems with u not revealing your source for that price... If you remember in the other thread too I asked once & when u refused I let it go... What I do have a problem with is that you urself buy a good branded 720p projector(WXGA) for 15k & then recommend to others that they should buy a Unknown brand Lower resolution(XGA) projector from China for 24k??? Still trying to make sense on that front...
 
oho.. you have made me a traitor.
1)First of all do you know anyThing on projectors ?
2)china brand: Have you heard about luxeon?? out of 2 links 1 was for luxeon if not this link will educate you [no offense but i had to mention here]
Luxeon Projectors: Luxeon L713V 3 LCD projector
china products are NOT damn cheap !see here it reveals that you need 'knowledge soup' for av products!!! :) , may be your mini ideas are parts of El-cheapo china stuff sold in india [personally i dont buy these except LEd light]
Products like "Shanling CD-T100se" are really admired but many cant afford to keep one

3) price and recommendation :
ok here your noob research will show up
a) ebay guy selling Luxeon which has better brightness than Dell m110
tell me a better projector in 25k with LEd light ,get a better branded projector in that price and same specs you will become star

b) the bigger speaker in Luxeon help people for small videos like family videos , talk shows ,my dell has too small irritating
speaker

4)ASk google baba what is XGA what is WXGA?
i myself use 110 inch screen and happy that supported 200 inch wide screen needs that extra pixels, the 720p also in in XGA...ufff
5)ok end of class , now i had to frankly say why i cant give the link
my research gave me great deal ,same link some of my friends use for business.
So obviously... not for public service
 
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kaushik said:
Even Better deal Luxcine-LED-projector
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kaushik said:
oho.. you have made me a traitor.
1)First of all do you know anyThing on projectors ?
2)china brand: Have you heard about luxeon?? out of 2 links 1 was for luxeon if not this link will educate you [no offense but i had to mention here]
Luxeon Projectors: Luxeon L713V 3 LCD projector
china products are NOT damn cheap !see here it reveals that you need 'knowledge soup' for av products!!! :) , may be your mini ideas are parts of El-cheapo china stuff sold in india [personally i dont buy these except LEd light]
Products like "Shanling CD-T100se" are really admired but many cant afford to keep one

3) price and recommendation :
ok here your noob research will show up
a) ebay guy selling Luxeon which has better brightness than Dell m110
tell me a better projector in 25k with LEd light ,get a better branded projector in that price and same specs you will become star

b) the bigger speaker in Luxeon help people for small videos like family videos , talk shows ,my dell has too small irritating
speaker

4)ASk google baba what is XGA what is WXGA?
i myself use 110 inch screen and happy that supported 200 inch wide screen needs that extra pixels, the 720p also in in XGA...ufff
5)ok end of class , now i had to frankly say why i cant give the link
my research gave me great deal ,same link some of my friends use for business.
So obviously... not for public service
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You know you are right... Thank you for opening my eyes... I am a noob & a fool and I know nothing about projectors, resolutions & basic projector companies who are of the highest standard... As you have been kind enough to open my eyes & guide me so brilliantly I do ask for 1 more small tinny tiny favor from you... Could you pls explain to me the following links in relation to ur posts???

Luxeon Projectors

Luxcine Projectors

You see in my noob stupid mind all I can see is Luxeon is a US based company which hasnt had a press release or a projector review in almost 10 years now & its website luxeonusa.com actually is a non active parked site... & Luxcine is a low level chinese company which has hardly any reviews of its projectors... Also I could not find the projector listed on ebay on luxcine's website Home Theater Projector| Home Projector| Home Cinema Projector| LED Projector| LCD Projector| video projector| Projectors| Luxcine ... Also If you observe carefully both the ebay links you have provided are of the same projector with exact same word to word in the description...

Also this stupid google tells me that XGA & WXGA are actually different and both are not actually 720p ufff...


So once again we pray to you oh mighty Projector God, to guide us to projector salvation & shower upon us your great projector knowledge :signthankspin:


PS If thy holiness would be kind enough not to retore to name calling, I shall forever be grateful...
 
kaushik said:
eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices

gooood deal , guys dont sit for full HD , the 720p is EEEnough for 130 inch screen , Grab it! I am happy user of SXGA projector by dell

I see lot of optoma fever here ...there are good devices from others too :ohyeah:
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Have you tried any of these projectors yourself?

Its hardly appropriate for you to extoll others to buy a unknown Chinese brand while comparing it to Dell...

kaushik said:
5)ok end of class , now i had to frankly say why i cant give the link
my research gave me great deal ,same link some of my friends use for business.
So obviously... not for public service
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...unless these ebay sellers are your friends too and you are promoting their business:ohyeah:
 
OK. For the moment, let's leave aside the unknown brand, unknown quality, Chinese make, etc. Anyone who in the market for a projector and wants to have hist worth of money should read the articles on Projector Central, projector people, this forum as well as lot of others. A projector is not something that you will buy every couple of years (there may be few exceptions). But let's consider some important Home Projector Features.

The budget will mostly decide the projector but within those constraints, the following order should be your choice of emphasis:

  1. Contrast Ratio: The projector must have high contrast ratio so that picture is sharp and crisp and details are not fuzzed out. A projector that has at least 2000:1 native contrast ratio is the lowermost benchmark.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: Unknown/unpublished.
  2. Brightness:After paying due consideration to contrast ratio, choose a projector that has got good brightness. A minimum of 400 ANSI lumens should be the benchmark. But if the projector is too bright, it will wash off the picture.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: 2500 Lumens. DOES NOT SAY ANSI LUMENS. This will be too bright. But then it says that this is the peak value. Do not know what this means - looks like a PMPO misdirection.
  3. Aspect ratio: Since the projector will be used for watching cinema, the native 16x9 aspect ratio is a must. I will not recommend the 4:3 aspect ratio - this must be left that for the corporate boardroom.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: It says 4:3/16:9. Does not state what is native. I suspect that 4:3 is native.
  4. Native resolution: This is another very important factor. If one can afford it, absolutely aim for full-HD 1080p (1980x1080) projector. Otherwise we can settle for near-HD or 720p (1366x768) projector. But do not think anything below, e.g. VGA (640x480). It will be sheer waste of money.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: OK on this front.
  5. Zoom lens: The zoom lens gives the flexibility to adjust the picture size depending upon the projection distance (aka throw distance). A zoom factor or 1.2:1 lets you adjust the size by 20% only. So choose a projector that has a zoom lens of 2:1.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: No zoom
  6. Lens shift: This is a very important feature. Lens shift (horizontal or vertical) allows the projection image to be displayed correctly even if the projector is not horizontally or vertically aligned to the projection surface. So there is no need to move the projector but the lens shift does the job.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: No lens shift.
  7. Keystone Correction: If the projector is not pependicular to the projection surface, the projected image appears like a trapezoid instead of a rectangle. Keystone correction is a feature that lets you correct the trapezoid form to some extent. Keystone correction is always a vertical correction and digital in nature. Keep in mind that applying keystone correction results in a loss of detail and sharpness, but it can be invaluable when your projector cannot be set up perfectly square with the screen. Keystone correction is nice feature to have but not at all recommended to use - funny but true.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: OK on this front.
  8. Lamp Life: A projector uses a high power lamp to project the picture. This is the most imporatant component of the projector. Choose a projector with long lamp life like 3000 hrs. or so. 3000 hours is a really long time. If you watch your projector daily for 3 hours, you will 1000 days or nearly 2.75 years. And this is virtually not possible. You are more likely to turn on the projector for no more than 8 hours per week.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: Very good to excellent on this front.
    • Lamp will not get hot.
    • There may be instant start/restart available
    • Long life > 50,000 hours
  9. Fan Noise: A projector has a built-in fan that cools the lamp. High fan noise will be a great irritant especially because, the projector is most likely to be near your sitting position. You will not like any (loud) humming sound to disturb your dialogues. Hence choose a projector with low fan noise.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: Unknown.

Having looked at the above feature, the said projector in post # 1, fails in many of the above criteria or are unknown/untested/unproven inspite of the good things about the LED lamp.

I will not care much on the above and would honestly stay away but others can decide for themselves.
 
i will come back on this later
@yrk1969 how many of forum members 'TRY' and recommend deals ?

am i appointed by some one ? i dont see any records



always there is buyer evaluation in between , i am NOT telling itz a must buy , just itz like there is a deal 'it may be good'

For people believing press releases ,we have always seen many places people lost money on not so well made products , take examples of
HRT streamer /norge 1000

regarding business promotion .. big bro if i had to do
i would have had 10 buyers minimum for selling dell 110 in 22k, by gods grace my career feeds me well and so i never had to do that
come on guys think once , u want to pay 30k less and want ALL the features of OPTOMA! god
if cons are less as compared to money , take it
Many are not utimate HD maniacs, for them HD ready rips do well and why sit for years so that you can afford a PJ of 60 k


moreover sellers here dont want low cost LED projector taking place of OPTOMa that is selling like a cake :)..
so this post is heating up
 
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just4kix said:
OK. For the moment, let's leave aside the unknown brand, unknown quality, Chinese make, etc. Anyone who in the market for a projector and wants to have hist worth of money should read the articles on Projector Central, projector people, this forum as well as lot of others. A projector is not something that you will buy every couple of years (there may be few exceptions). But let's consider some important Home Projector Features.

The budget will mostly decide the projector but within those constraints, the following order should be your choice of emphasis:

  1. Contrast Ratio: The projector must have high contrast ratio so that picture is sharp and crisp and details are not fuzzed out. A projector that has at least 2000:1 native contrast ratio is the lowermost benchmark.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: Unknown/unpublished.
  2. Brightness:After paying due consideration to contrast ratio, choose a projector that has got good brightness. A minimum of 400 ANSI lumens should be the benchmark. But if the projector is too bright, it will wash off the picture.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: 2500 Lumens. DOES NOT SAY ANSI LUMENS. This will be too bright. But then it says that this is the peak value. Do not know what this means - looks like a PMPO misdirection.
  3. Aspect ratio: Since the projector will be used for watching cinema, the native 16x9 aspect ratio is a must. I will not recommend the 4:3 aspect ratio - this must be left that for the corporate boardroom.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: It says 4:3/16:9. Does not state what is native. I suspect that 4:3 is native.
  4. Native resolution: This is another very important factor. If one can afford it, absolutely aim for full-HD 1080p (1980x1080) projector. Otherwise we can settle for near-HD or 720p (1366x768) projector. But do not think anything below, e.g. VGA (640x480). It will be sheer waste of money.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: OK on this front.
  5. Zoom lens: The zoom lens gives the flexibility to adjust the picture size depending upon the projection distance (aka throw distance). A zoom factor or 1.2:1 lets you adjust the size by 20% only. So choose a projector that has a zoom lens of 2:1.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: No zoom
  6. Lens shift: This is a very important feature. Lens shift (horizontal or vertical) allows the projection image to be displayed correctly even if the projector is not horizontally or vertically aligned to the projection surface. So there is no need to move the projector but the lens shift does the job.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: No lens shift.
  7. Keystone Correction: If the projector is not pependicular to the projection surface, the projected image appears like a trapezoid instead of a rectangle. Keystone correction is a feature that lets you correct the trapezoid form to some extent. Keystone correction is always a vertical correction and digital in nature. Keep in mind that applying keystone correction results in a loss of detail and sharpness, but it can be invaluable when your projector cannot be set up perfectly square with the screen. Keystone correction is nice feature to have but not at all recommended to use - funny but true.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: OK on this front.
  8. Lamp Life: A projector uses a high power lamp to project the picture. This is the most imporatant component of the projector. Choose a projector with long lamp life like 3000 hrs. or so. 3000 hours is a really long time. If you watch your projector daily for 3 hours, you will 1000 days or nearly 2.75 years. And this is virtually not possible. You are more likely to turn on the projector for no more than 8 hours per week.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: Very good to excellent on this front.
    • Lamp will not get hot.
    • There may be instant start/restart available
    • Long life > 50,000 hours
  9. Fan Noise: A projector has a built-in fan that cools the lamp. High fan noise will be a great irritant especially because, the projector is most likely to be near your sitting position. You will not like any (loud) humming sound to disturb your dialogues. Hence choose a projector with low fan noise.
    The advertised projector in post # 1: Unknown.

Having looked at the above feature, the said projector in post # 1, fails in many of the above criteria or are unknown/untested/unproven inspite of the good things about the LED lamp.

I will not care much on the above and would honestly stay away but others can decide for themselves.
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excellent post ... must be in projectors section as sticky, point 8 is some how varies as someone may watch matches in 6 -8 hours usage , some one may give tv signal every night /morning crossing 4hours avg , lamp is very important as new lamps
- Not all are locally available
- sometime as expensive as 15k -20k, so many times user has to pay good money in 1-2years to replace lamp
- bulbs consume more power so more bills even if you run at night when u need minimal brightness
Lens shift ??? , many times not required , i keep my projector at 30 Deg from screen , I dont do lens shift however the throw distance is 3.5 meters :) for 11o inch
 
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