Any comments on Bose Speakers ?

[sanjay0864]

I read somewhere that Bosde is BIGGEST speaker manufacturer..Also Amar Bose is in Billioners list , I cannot see any other manufacturer..

So fro where he gets this sale? Or he is lying?

What does 'sales' have to do with 'quality'?

 

[deba]

Amar Bose a millionare and his speakers are over priced.........

 

[doors666]

People keep mentioning that bose works with all sorts of inputs e.g. ipod, usb etc. And it works great with mp3s. I would like to point out that bose was bose before the advent of ipod, usb or even before mp3s became popular. those days, it used to come with a slim cd player too. They still had the great marketing engine.

If you talk to someone who has almost no knowledge of audio (pretty much 99% of people on this planet), and ask them which is the best sound quality audio system in the world, they will say its bose. Thats the power of marketing for you. They would not even have heard of B&W even once in their entire life. Mind you, these are the people that probably would never have seen a picture of a bose system, forget about seeing a real one or listening to it.

Product quality has nothing to do with sales. Thats why microsoft sells more than apple. Apple always had better products than microsoft, and they still do. Most of their products are built like a tank, they pull out all stops to get better products (well, except some i should say). Using the MacOS (used my friend's for a bit) is a pleasure as compared to windows. My ipod still works fine despite being handled by kids too. I have MS kbd and mouse, i dropped the mouse once and it started misbehaving, without any external damage. BTW, I am not an apple fan, still have issues with their products, but thats for another thread...

 

[Thad E Ginathom]

I have altogether different issues with Apple, which I would say is a different marketing angle: selling an image. However, I don't doubt what you say.

 

[hifiashok]

just a lateral thought. could it be that the european and us brands/manufacturers chose to deride bose over time owing to his indian origins. how can an indian come into a their markets and win!!? could this be a case of -ve/anti-marketing? are all (or most of) the bose bashers only victims of this, with a decent % also being indian?

one of my neighbours manufactures a part for bose, so he (naturally) has a bose setup. another, tho' not one, also has a bose setup. and both love their music (for music).

here i am not (attempting to) passing any judgments, or commenting +ve/-ve. just some food for thought. remember the delhi-bug to dissuade medical-tourism?

 

[Thad E Ginathom]

could it be that the european and us brands/manufacturers chose to deride bose over time owing to his indian origins

For a long time, there were two things I didn't know about Bose:

1. How to pronounce it.

2. That it was an Indian name!.

Now, I might have been more-than-averagely ignorant on both those points, but I hope I am not the most ignorant of my race!

I can remember back to the 1950s, where, in my mother country (UK), made-in-Hong-Kong meant rubbish, and Empire-Made mean even worse rubbish that the seller didn't want to admit was made in Hong Kong. Of course, Made-in-Japan, at that time, meant a copy of something made in Europe, with a different name stuck on it. There would have been much more reason not to buy German- or Japanese-made goods, but people still did. I don't think there has ever been any major prejudice against good made, or developed, in India.

Whatever India may have suffered, historically (like... being bled dry, basically), at the hands of my ancestors, and whatever individuals may still suffer from some that I am not proud to call countrymen, I don't think your lateral thought is correct.

Just my opinion and contribution to the conversation.

It begs another lateral jump, though... How much does India itself value its own? Can something that is not imported really be seen to be first class? Probably, though, that is an entirely other conversation, and probably for an entirely other forum too, as I think that members here are just looking for good sound, and the nationality of its development or manufacture probably doesn't figure.

Or do we have our audio-equipment stereotypes? Japanese, British, German, American? We might. I just asked myself: how proud would I feel about owning a Nikon? How proud would I feel about owning a Leica? I can admit there is a difference. I'd have to analyse my feelings rather deeper to decide whether nationality really had anything to do with it.

Well, I guess we are straying way off-topic, but you said it was food for thought, so I did some thinking!

 

[susheeljohn]

By the way, we were invited to "comment" on Bose speakers. Whether the originator of the thread meant the invitation to be so wide open, or not, I don't know, but I guess that the invitation was certainly accepted

Well the dicussion has been interesting and captivating, thank you guys for helping me dicover the "marketing" over music , which concurred with the response from Bose customer support - 360 degree view of All in one HDPC that which their technical guys cant offer a solution with details of the onboard graphics and sound cards provided.:clapping:

I think since my interest is music over movies - will settle for a stereo amp with audiophile grade speakers , guess the whole of this should be available at what I would have shelled out for the Acoustimass 5.1.

thanks
Susheel

 

[square_wave]

I have owned many BOSE products in the past.Some were owned by me while the others were in my home for an extended period of time. I have got rid of all of them some ten years back. Good riddance!

The Bose products are very cleverly designed devices. They are so designed that they will work with almost all kind of ancillary equipment and satisfy the non - critical listener. It will mask all problems like harshness, lack of control in the low frequencies etc which plaques mass market audio amplifiers. The bose design takes care of all this and produces a pleasant sound which the non-critical listener mistakes for a musical sound. Non-critical sound enthusiasts form the majority of the mass market for audio gear. Add WAF and marketing to this. Bose laughs all the way to the bank !
I personally do not call bose hi-fidelity equipment. There is nothing hi fidelity about them. They are better than the mass market boom boxes though.

Folks who believe bose produces musical sound have not heard what real Hi fidelity gear can do !

 

[susheeljohn]

Folks who believe bose produces musical sound have not heard what real Hi fidelity gear can do !

Like beauty lies in the eye of the beholder, I guess BOSE lovers listen to music with their eyes more than their ears....:clapping:

 

[edjamesx]

Though we respect your preference for a Bose system, I think you fell into the universal trap of demos and thinking that speakers/amps have to be loud (read powerful) to have any effect. Anything loud beyond 75db will hurt your ears, including Bose. Actually if I go near your ears and shout, believe me that will hurt.

Yes Agree..But Most speakers are failing to deliver the accurate sound reproduction. I feel In BOSE speakers they did some sound processing which produces the balanced sound re-production. I was able to to hear Gun shot sound clearly without hurting my ears.Thats reason why all speakers are connected from SUB, instead of connection from AMP directly. More over i am not a BOSE fan, this is what I felt.

One of the speakers I audiotioned is Paradigm Home cinema speakers I felt some how the sound is flat and its lacking BASS , but its more powerful and louder. Not sure whether its a settings issue ..But here the Gun sound is more louder and flat was hurting my ears. I felt the same thing in other speakers as well.

 

[avidyarthy]

Well ........... real gunshots and bomb blasts do sound harsh ..... HAS to hurt your ears ....... people go deaf if a trigger is pulled next to your ears ... with the barrel pointing away from your ears, of course ...

Speakers which sound 'pleasing' (with gunshots) are artificial ... bad speakers ... :lol:

 

[kapvin]

Yes Agree..But Most speakers are failing to deliver the accurate sound reproduction. I feel In BOSE speakers they did some sound processing which produces the balanced sound re-production. I was able to to hear Gun shot sound clearly without hurting my ears.Thats reason why all speakers are connected from SUB, instead of connection from AMP directly. More over i am not a BOSE fan, this is what I felt.

One of the speakers I audiotioned is Paradigm Home cinema speakers I felt some how the sound is flat and its lacking BASS , but its more powerful and louder. Not sure whether its a settings issue ..But here the Gun sound is more louder and flat was hurting my ears. I felt the same thing in other speakers as well.

hey edjamesx,

it's great that you are happy with your Bose speakers. and you seemingly purchased it for to absolutely the only "right" reason - They sounded (and still sound) good to your ears. After all, you are the one listening to the bose speakers, not any of us other posters on this thread.

of course, there is more than one take on HT sound. I'd encourage you to listen to other systems at various price points that are properly set up, esp from among your HFV friends in chennai or wherever you stay. it'll help you form a wider perspective on HT sound, which could be useful whenever you choose to buy your next system.

cheers

Kapvin.

ps - if you are ever in mumbai over a weekend pm me to check out 2 rather different ht systems, incl one which has the cheapest paradigm ht speakers.

 

[Subcenter2009]

Dear folks,

The plus point of Bose is the compact size.. I think.

How many of you friends have auditioned the Telome speakers, I wonder..

I feel that if Bose pleases to the ear, then Telome will make a sweet sounding alternative to monetarily challenged folks out there.

Apart from the similarity in looks, I feel Telome sounds nice to the ear too.

These are just my personal observations.. Folks please hear out the Telome and compare them price-wise with the much more expensive Bose etc..

Please dont reply pointing out the merits of some obviously superior Audiophile grade loudspeaker. This post is just to point out that Good sound need not be that costly to attain.

Yours,

Subcenter2009

 

[Thad E Ginathom]

This post is just to point out that Good sound need not be that costly to attain.

I think that is a big part of what this thread is about --- not how much one spends, but how one spends it.

 

[hifiashok]

also check out invisible (kolkata) 5.1 and 7.1.

 

[Vijay KD]

Hi edjamesx,
I feel there is no difference between the speakers are connected from Sub and connected from Amp.
I have seen Bose lifestyle from my friend home. Not impressed much with the sound quality (for that much price).
And got a demo from Bose showroom with Yamaha RXV 465 and Bose 5.1 system. He turned the sound till -4 DB, not much sound itself. But i am using the same receiver and i can't go up the volume -22 DB. That little Bose speakers require more signal....

Yes Agree..But Most speakers are failing to deliver the accurate sound reproduction. I feel In BOSE speakers they did some sound processing which produces the balanced sound re-production. I was able to to hear Gun shot sound clearly without hurting my ears.Thats reason why all speakers are connected from SUB, instead of connection from AMP directly. More over i am not a BOSE fan, this is what I felt.

One of the speakers I audiotioned is Paradigm Home cinema speakers I felt some how the sound is flat and its lacking BASS , but its more powerful and louder. Not sure whether its a settings issue ..But here the Gun sound is more louder and flat was hurting my ears. I felt the same thing in other speakers as well.

 

[edjamesx]

Hi edjamesx,
I feel there is no difference between the speakers are connected from Sub and connected from Amp.
I have seen Bose lifestyle from my friend home. Not impressed much with the sound quality (for that much price).
And got a demo from Bose showroom with Yamaha RXV 465 and Bose 5.1 system. He turned the sound till -4 DB, not much sound itself. But i am using the same receiver and i can't go up the volume -22 DB. That little Bose speakers require more signal....

Seems lot of BOSE haters are around here :lol: .

Anyways I had set it up in a small room ..so it performs well. My friends are also liking my setup and frequently visits my house to watch movies..

It may not perform well for larger rooms since these are small speakers. Moreover i got these spekaers for 550$ and paired with ONKYO Amp.For this price its worth. But for Full lifestyle speakers are expensive i think.
2000$s.
Personaly liked the the BOSE speakers the way it sounds. Generally i like soft/mild sound and hate blasting/ powerful sound.