Apple music to launch lossless streaming

[OM_2K19]

Apple Music playback format cheat sheet

iPhone with wireless earbuds or headphones

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: Yes

Apple Watch with wireless earbuds or headphones

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: No

iPhone with wired earbuds/headphones and Lightning adapter

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: Yes

iPhone with wired earbuds/headphones and hi-res external DAC

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: Yes
• Dolby Atmos Music: Yes

Android phone with wired earbuds/headphones and hi-res internal DAC

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: Yes
• Dolby Atmos Music: No**

Android phone with wired earbuds/headphones and USB-C adapter

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: No**

Android phone with wired earbuds/headphones and hi-res external DAC

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: Yes
• Dolby Atmos Music: No**

Android phone with regular wireless earbuds or headphones

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: No**

Android phone with aptX HD- or LDAC-capable wireless earbuds or headphones

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes*
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes*
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: Yes*
• Dolby Atmos Music: No**

iPhone or Android phone with a Bluetooth speaker

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: No

Lossless-capable Wi-Fi speaker

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: No

Hi-res lossless-capable Wi-Fi speaker

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: Yes
• Dolby Atmos Music: No

*You won’t get a fully lossless signal, but much more of the detail will be preserved than with non-aptX HD- or LDAC-capable wireless earbuds/headphones.

**At launch, Dolby Atmos Music is not supported on Android devices. Apple says this feature will be coming “later.”

Apple Hi-Res Lossless 24-bit/192 kHz - Connection to AV Receiver?

Hi, Does anyone know how to connect an iPhone or an iPad (lightning or USB-C) to a Onkyo TX-676 for Apple’s hi-res lossless format? Apparently their lightning to 3.5mm jack isn’t compatible (and limited to 24-bit/48 kHz anyway), so I don’t get how this would work… Hi-res lossless isn’t...

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[Passive_audio_enthusiast]

Apple Music playback format cheat sheet

iPhone with wireless earbuds or headphones

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: Yes

Apple Watch with wireless earbuds or headphones

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: No

iPhone with wired earbuds/headphones and Lightning adapter

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: Yes

iPhone with wired earbuds/headphones and hi-res external DAC

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: Yes
• Dolby Atmos Music: Yes

Android phone with wired earbuds/headphones and hi-res internal DAC

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: Yes
• Dolby Atmos Music: No**

Android phone with wired earbuds/headphones and USB-C adapter

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: No**

Android phone with wired earbuds/headphones and hi-res external DAC

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: Yes
• Dolby Atmos Music: No**

Android phone with regular wireless earbuds or headphones

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: No**

Android phone with aptX HD- or LDAC-capable wireless earbuds or headphones

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes*
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes*
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: Yes*
• Dolby Atmos Music: No**

iPhone or Android phone with a Bluetooth speaker

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: No

Lossless-capable Wi-Fi speaker

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: No

Hi-res lossless-capable Wi-Fi speaker

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: Yes
• Dolby Atmos Music: No

*You won’t get a fully lossless signal, but much more of the detail will be preserved than with non-aptX HD- or LDAC-capable wireless earbuds/headphones.

**At launch, Dolby Atmos Music is not supported on Android devices. Apple says this feature will be coming “later.”

Apple Hi-Res Lossless 24-bit/192 kHz - Connection to AV Receiver?

Hi, Does anyone know how to connect an iPhone or an iPad (lightning or USB-C) to a Onkyo TX-676 for Apple’s hi-res lossless format? Apparently their lightning to 3.5mm jack isn’t compatible (and limited to 24-bit/48 kHz anyway), so I don’t get how this would work… Hi-res lossless isn’t...

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I listened to couple of songs using the lightning adapter to my amp and speakers and with 2 headphones. To me, I prefer the Orginal versions of the songs I tried more than the “modified” versions. Many songs have some kind of artifacts, on their attempt to make everything more “spacious”. So for me, the lossless part of the update is more interesting than atmos gimmick. I don’t know if it’s any better with AirPod pro and AirPod max. But what I noticed is, slightly reduced treble in most songs, and thin bass. It reminded me of a 2.0 to 5.0 up conversion which my old NAD receiver had pushing vocals to center channel and instruments to side. Sometimes the algorithm used to fail and had lot of artifacts and weird effects. I seriously wonder if these music was originally Dolby atmos mastered or they remixed it in atmos. I suspect it’s the later as it sounded weird to me.

 

[msankadi]

Apple Music playback format cheat sheet

iPhone with wireless earbuds or headphones

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: Yes

Apple Watch with wireless earbuds or headphones

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: No

iPhone with wired earbuds/headphones and Lightning adapter

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: Yes

iPhone with wired earbuds/headphones and hi-res external DAC

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: Yes
• Dolby Atmos Music: Yes

Android phone with wired earbuds/headphones and hi-res internal DAC

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: Yes
• Dolby Atmos Music: No**

Android phone with wired earbuds/headphones and USB-C adapter

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: No**

Android phone with wired earbuds/headphones and hi-res external DAC

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: Yes
• Dolby Atmos Music: No**

Android phone with regular wireless earbuds or headphones

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: No**

Android phone with aptX HD- or LDAC-capable wireless earbuds or headphones

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes*
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes*
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: Yes*
• Dolby Atmos Music: No**

iPhone or Android phone with a Bluetooth speaker

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: No
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: No

Lossless-capable Wi-Fi speaker

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: No
• Dolby Atmos Music: No

Hi-res lossless-capable Wi-Fi speaker

• Lossless 16-bit/44.1kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/48kHz: Yes
• Lossless 24-bit/192kHz: Yes
• Dolby Atmos Music: No

*You won’t get a fully lossless signal, but much more of the detail will be preserved than with non-aptX HD- or LDAC-capable wireless earbuds/headphones.

**At launch, Dolby Atmos Music is not supported on Android devices. Apple says this feature will be coming “later.”

Apple Hi-Res Lossless 24-bit/192 kHz - Connection to AV Receiver?

Hi, Does anyone know how to connect an iPhone or an iPad (lightning or USB-C) to a Onkyo TX-676 for Apple’s hi-res lossless format? Apparently their lightning to 3.5mm jack isn’t compatible (and limited to 24-bit/48 kHz anyway), so I don’t get how this would work… Hi-res lossless isn’t...

www.avforums.com

One more to add to the cheatsheet

India : No
Abroad : Maybe
Android : Maybe

 

[Deepaksharma86]

Does anyone know when this lossless tier is being launched in India? Been endlessly checking but no concrete answer anywhere

 

[cooltoad]

Does anyone know when this lossless tier is being launched in India? Been endlessly checking but no concrete answer anywhere

Try to download any Diana Krall album, it will download in lossless. I tried with and without vpn. Califirnication by RHCP also downloaded as lossless , 780 MB. So, lossless is already available, but not for all albums. Downloaded just for curiosity, as I have Tidal which clearly sounds superior.

 

[Deepaksharma86]

Try to download any Diana Krall album, it will download in lossless. I tried with and without vpn. Califirnication by RHCP also downloaded as lossless , 780 MB. So, lossless is already available, but not for all albums. Downloaded just for curiosity, as I have Tidal which clearly sounds superior.

Can you share the album link here? I tried but not downloading any lossless versions.

 

[cooltoad]

Can you share the album link here? I tried but not downloading any lossless versions.

 

[cooltoad]

Also, try the albums in this Reddit Link.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleMusic/comments/nvdpgd

 

[Deleted member 15865]

Apple support partly replied to Twitter query on lossless and spatial. Does this mean spatial audio will come before lossless to India?

Apple Music to get Lossless, Spatial Audio support in India soon: Know more

Apple in May announced free upgrade to its Music app with Lossless and Spatial Audio support

www.business-standard.com

The Twitter link referred above:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1402611232696320005

 

[cooltoad]

For those who’ve been following this thread, I am getting audio quality options under music, so lossless is fully functional, I hope. (Playing a lossless hires right now).

 

[Deleted member 15865]

For those who’ve been following this thread, I am getting audio quality options under music, so lossless is fully functional, I hope. (Playing a lossless hires right now).

Is that on an Indian Apple account on a phone that’s in India?

 

[akshye]

I’ve iPhone SE 2. I’m still not getting the option for the lossless. I’m from India. Ive latest iOS (14.6) and Music is up to date.

 

[cooltoad]

Ss

Is that on an Indian Apple account on a phone that’s in India?

First time, the vpn was on, I turned it off, restarted the iPad and I still get the option. Yes, Indian account.

 

[Deleted member 15865]

Ss

First time, the vpn was on, I turned it off, restarted the iPad and I still get the option. Yes, Indian account.

So when the VPN was on, did you use a non-Indian Apple account to jump start? Or it worked with an Indian account from the word go?

 

[cooltoad]

So when the VPN was on, did you use a non-Indian Apple account to jump start? Or it worked with an Indian account from the word go?

I tried again, the option is not showing when the vpn is off, when I restart with the vpn on, it is showing. In both cases, I tried with Indian account.

 

[ssf]

VPN with Indian account on Android does not show Hi res options.

 

[msankadi]

What a waste this thread has been, so much fake hype. Fussi bam. Sigh!still no sign of apple hifi

 

[Deleted member 15865]

What a waste this thread has been, so much fake hype. Fussi bam. Sigh!still no sign of apple hifi

Well, it wasn’t a waste if it gave some Apple haters reason to rejoice!

 

[drkrack]

Oh Come on Guys, I don't understand what is the rush all about? You're behaving like people who Q up for new iPhone on release date! Let there be a Apple Lossless Human Trial on Audiophile Guinea Pigs of North America and Europe first... Once it reaches certain level of maturity , Apple will release it in India.

It's not reasonable to Expect the initial version of any Apple Offering to be perfect. Historically, It holds true for most of their devices. So Keep Calm and Relax, Listen to Tidal Turkey instead!!

 

[cooltoad]

Oh Come on Guys, I don't understand what is the rush all about? You're behaving like people who Q up for new iPhone on release date! Let there be a Apple Lossless Human Trial on Audiophile Guinea Pigs of North America and Europe first... Once it reaches certain level of maturity , Apple will release it in India.

It's not reasonable to Expect the initial version of any Apple Offering to be perfect. Historically, It holds true for most of their devices. So Keep Calm and Relax, Listen to Tidal Turkey instead!!
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Of course, we have Tidal and other services. It is just curiosity, nothing else plus the UI is much better than Tidal with lyrics support. I hate Tidal’s UI. Further, Apple is the first service about to provide lossless to Indian subscribers without needing to bypass or circumvent the restrictions, at an affordable price. So, it may matter to many people here who wont need to do the workaround with Tidal, etc.