Benefit of plasma?

[manish mundra]

hi friends...
I am looking to buy a new tv for my home...not sure which one to go for. I always thought plasma is older technology but still there are lots of people buying it. Can someone let me know its benefit over lcd?

 

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[Flash]

hi friends...
I am looking to buy a new tv for my home...not sure which one to go for. I always thought plasma is older technology but still there are lots of people buying it. Can someone let me know its benefit over lcd?

There are Pro and Cons for Both LCD vs Plasma.

Plasma consumes more electricity however has a wider viewing angle better refresh rate and overal IMO better picture quality especially with fast moving scenes such as sports, movies, Games etc.

Plasma screens are more reflective than LCD's and can be a problem when close to a window or in a bright room. They also have IR/Burn in issues.

Anyway there is a ton of information on the net of
LED vs LCD vs Plasma.

google it and you should get a wealth of information

 

[Kannan]

Explained in simple layman's language without going into too much technicalities.
Plasma vs LED vs LCD | LCD vs LED

Summary:
Plasma:
Good: Truer colors, wider viewing angles, better refresher rate, cheaper than LED
Bad: Heavier, thicker then LCD/LED, poor looks, needs proper room lighting, less energy efficient, available only in 42" and above, screen burn-in issues
LCD:
Good: Cheaper, thinner, cosmetic looks, available in smaller screen sizes, energy efficient
Bad: Poorer viewing angles, lower contrast, poorer blacks, poor refresher rates
LCD-LED:
Good: Great looks, much thinner, available in smaller screen sizes, highly energy efficient, better contrast then LCD
Bad: Expensive, Artificial colors, too bright, viewing angles not as good as plasma, poorer refresher rates than plasma

 

[BLASTO]

OLED removes all disadvantages of current technologies but it has its own set of problems - Uneven aging of RGB being the primary.

 

[Kannan]

OLED removes all disadvantages of current technologies but it has its own set of problems - Uneven aging of RGB being the primary.

Its true regarding OLED, but commercially/economically a long way off because the companies who have invested a lot in LCD/LED development will take quite sometime to reap the benefits.

 

[haisaikat]

LG plasmas consume the least power of all. However if the plasma is not going to run all day then you need not worry about power. Moreover you should note that when a plasma is rated say 400 Watts it is the max powerconsumption when displaying a full white screen with max brightness. Average consumption hence revolves between 40 to 60% of the max rating.

 

[vardu]

hi friends...
I am looking to buy a new tv for my home...not sure which one to go for. I always thought plasma is older technology but still there are lots of people buying it. Can someone let me know its benefit over lcd?

Plasma sizes start with 42"
Prices are comparable if not cheaper than LCD/LED (for a particular feature set) but they have their own set of issues.

Folks might disagree with this advice I am about to give (in that there seems to be no apparent choice) but take it for what it is worth
- If you are not into researching technologies
- If you are looking for a size < = 40"
- If you are mostly going to be watching set top box TV/DVDs
- If you are not a videophile
- If you don't have friends who are videophiles (who will bug you to death about it)
- If you care mostly about the content (the movie plot, song, tv show ) and are not into analyzing color levels and picture clarity and blackness.

Get an LCD

At the sub 32 levels - all 720p TVs are pretty much the same (they are like refrigerators or microwaves) -go with whatever extra features you want/ brand you like, Samsung, Sony , LG, Panasonic etc.. Some folks have bad experience with Samsung, some with LG others love Panasonic and Sony. Advice won't help you with that.

At 32-40 - see if you want to get true HD 1080p - then select the 5 TVs that are in your budget and search for them on here and make a decision.

HOWEVER
If you are going to spend more than 40K /this is your first large purchase/ would like to get the best bang for your buck then take a few hours (or even more) of your time and read about Plasmas/LCD, browse through this or the avforums/avsforum to get a good idea about what you should buy.

After you are done browsing - you can ask folks to clarify points on those particular TVs and it makes it much easier for those who can, to help you.

Good luck

 

[baala]

hi friends...
I am looking to buy a new tv for my home...not sure which one to go for. I always thought plasma is older technology but still there are lots of people buying it. Can someone let me know its benefit over lcd?

My dear friend: Please go to any Panasonic Brand shop and ask them to play the 'fast moving video' (I forgot the exact name of that video series) at a time on all the TVs.....

Plasma has unbeatable picture quality, refresh rate and 600Hz Sub field drive frequency while regular LCD and LED (in buyable range) has around 100Hz only.
(On a lighter note) - Sub field drive frequency number is directly proportional to how much you love your eyes and how much they will thank you hyeah:

Please see this post in my thread - I have explained the above in detail:
http://www.hifivision.com/television/24025-40-plasma-buying-help-needed-4.html#post340644

Rdgs/

 

[baala]

Plasma sizes start with 42"
Prices are comparable if not cheaper than LCD/LED (for a particular feature set) but they have their own set of issues.

Folks might disagree with this advice I am about to give (in that there seems to be no apparent choice) but take it for what it is worth
- If you are not into researching technologies
- If you are looking for a size < = 40"
- If you are mostly going to be watching set top box TV/DVDs
- If you are not a videophile
- If you don't have friends who are videophiles (who will bug you to death about it)
- If you care mostly about the content (the movie plot, song, tv show ) and are not into analyzing color levels and picture clarity and blackness.

Get an LCD

At the sub 32 levels - all 720p TVs are pretty much the same (they are like refrigerators or microwaves) -go with whatever extra features you want/ brand you like, Samsung, Sony , LG, Panasonic etc.. Some folks have bad experience with Samsung, some with LG others love Panasonic and Sony. Advice won't help you with that.

At 32-40 - see if you want to get true HD 1080p - then select the 5 TVs that are in your budget and search for them on here and make a decision.

HOWEVER
If you are going to spend more than 40K /this is your first large purchase/ would like to get the best bang for your buck then take a few hours (or even more) of your time and read about Plasmas/LCD, browse through this or the avforums/avsforum to get a good idea about what you should buy.

After you are done browsing - you can ask folks to clarify points on those particular TVs and it makes it much easier for those who can, to help you.

Good luck

@Vardu: Nicely written... Good one :clapping:

 

[goyal.sanchit]

Plasma are better than lcd's on almost all major points. The only major disadvantage of plasma is that it would be a problem if you have a tube/window opposite the tv which would result in reflection.

 

[abhinkoi]

After doing an extensive research on all these 3 type of TVs, watching demo in so many showrooms & watching all of them side by side (paused the pic & compared the minutest diff) & priortizing VFM with my needs, I finally bot Pana X30d last week & I am more than happy that i took right decision...

Kannan has already explained it very well above the pros n cons of all of them...nothing to add to it...very well explained Kannan...

cheers
abhi

 

[manupriyam]

Congrats Abhi. How much you paid and what freebies you got. Which place?

Cheers
Pankaj

 

[notep]

It all comes down to personal choice. Some folks are okay with the LCD or the LCD rebranded LED with its artificial color.
Infact one of my friend liked the LCD artificial skin tone and brightness. Again thats his preference. Most people fall for them and the main culprit is showroom as thats the place a person gets a feel of the TV.

Its a human thing LCD/LED gets the attention due to their picture brightness but the bottomline if you want the best picture quality, fast moving playback of sports or games look no further.

Ignore the power consumption that gets hyped up. Its not that TV will be on 24 hours a day or the difference being 1:1000. Yes they do consume more power but not that big to dent your pocket. If thats the case everyone will drive the car which gives us 30 km/l or even more. Isn't it?

Only thing with Plasma is you have to baby sit it for the first 200 hours and take care of it. It will reward you with the best TV viewing experience.

Good luck in your search.

 

[omishra]

Its all hype about power consumption theory of Plasma. I am using 42" plasma since last 3 years. If complete white screen used then it consumes 275W (max). For dynamic picture it comes to 125W. LCD with constant back light always uses its rated power - 100-125W. Where is saving?

I love picture quality of plasma.

 

[adder]

Its all hype about power consumption theory of Plasma. I am using 42" plasma since last 3 years. If complete white screen used then it consumes 275W (max). For dynamic picture it comes to 125W. LCD with constant back light always uses its rated power - 100-125W. Where is saving?

I love picture quality of plasma.

A 46" lcd with optimum settings consume around 120watt ,so it consumes less then a 42" plasma with much better brightness then a plasma.

And a 46" LED-lcd its max power consumption itself is just around 110watt.

A plasma power consumption is dynamic(so is btw all local dimming tv or samsung edge led-lcd which dim the backlight at very low APL),but it doesn't mean its average power consumption will be consume less then a lcd,let alone a LED-lcd.

Further more in a plasma as the APL level increases the brightness is reduced, in some models as low as around 1/3rd its peak brightness(150cd/m2) during a full screen white or light colored image.Now thats really dim a lcd on the other hand a lcd if need arises can achieve those low brightness levels(say in a case if you want to run via UPS backup and need low power consumption) and also go to 400+ cd/m2 enough to defeat glares in bright rooms.

 

[manish mundra]

Thank you all for all the valuable inputs. I could not make up my mind that plasma is gonna be VFM with great pq. Now that i am locked towards plasma....any suggestion which one to go for.... I am not looking for a 3D option and looking for something of 40"-43". Please suggest the best option.....i dont want to compromise on cosmetics of it....something that should make great impression with looks as well as pq.

 

[omishra]

A 46" lcd with optimum settings consume around 120watt ,so it consumes less then a 42" plasma with much better brightness then a plasma.

And a 46" LED-lcd its max power consumption itself is just around 110watt.

I don't care about that 5W difference because I am getting true color, tint, contrast and IMO brightness is not only criteria to measure PQ.

But for highly lit ambiance or direct light on screen, I don't advise plasma due to reflection. LCD could be option if viewing angle is not an issue.

 

[kamalnv]

Have been using Pany V20D for last nearly a year now, i must say the PQ is fantastic some of my friends are awestuck after owning a LCD, I didnt find the premium charged by LED's worth it, so at almost the price of LCD i get better quality at a compromise thickness or may be a extra power but it's worth it at the end of the day.

I am burning enough power just on my sub so might not be worth while discussing on the cost savings of power consumed by LED.

 

[adder]

I don't care about that 5W difference because I am getting true color, tint, contrast and IMO brightness is not only criteria to measure PQ.

But for highly lit ambiance or direct light on screen, I don't advise plasma due to reflection. LCD could be option if viewing angle is not an issue.

Well you are comparing a brighter 46" lcd power consumption to a 42" plasma which is going to dim with higher APL .
Brightness is part of PQ .If its not you can also go get yourself a RPTV.

True color,tint whats that ?

The real world contrast with ambient light hitting the screen from front or the sides, the lcd will have the edge.
Even in dark its only some plasma like mainly panasonic FHD plasma that have the edge in dark in terms of black level.
samsung plasma while better then all IPS based lcd its still neck and neck with VA based lcd in black level(without local dimming).

About viewing angle ,how many are actually going to watch a tv at those extreme angles,unless they are unfortunate.

If those issue you talk was there ,lcd should be dead,the fact is they are more expensive itself should itself make people go buy plasma.Yet they outsell plasma buy a big big margin even in large screen sizes of 46" and above segment.
So all the people must find something good in the lcd,for people who pay such a huge premium for those lcd or LED ,power consumption won't be a big deal,so its not the power consumption that was deciding factor to buy a lcd.