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Hey guys! :)

Which would be better?
Samsung 51D550 or 64D8000 or Panny 50VT20 or 50ST30?

Cost is not a factor performance is :D

BTW i love 3D! that's why i've shortlisted those :cool:
 
64D8000 hands down, no contest :)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=20168734&postcount=50

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=20446626


P65VT30 Comparison with Samsung PN-64D8000:

I just happened to have a similar sized and freshly calibrated Samsung sitting right next to the VT30, so I couldn't resist a quick face-off. 1080P/24 HDMI from the Blu Ray player was sent to a high quality HDMI distribution amplifier, and both displays were calibrated to around 40 fL peak light output give or take a few percent. The room was totally dark except for at the very beginning. The Samsung was evaluated with Cinema Smooth turned off since it degrades the black level. Both 96 and 60 Hz modes were sampled on the VT30.

Lights on, power off:
The VT30 was a little more reflective. Both plasmas stayed fairly dark, retaining good contrast with moderate ambient light.

Lights off, test patterns:
The D8000 looked brighter and a purer white when displaying a full white field.
Looking at a moving white bar, I was able to see slight signs of the DSE on the D8000: the movement of the bar caused the screen to appear to have dirty fingerprints or smudges on it. The effect was only noticeable with this test pattern.
With a very dark PLUGE image, I could see the VT30's blacks were just barely darker to the eye in 60 Hz mode. It was such a slight difference, though, that I would definitely not be able to see it except in this instance where they were side by side in a pitch black room. However, the VT30's blacks became slightly darker with the 96 Hz mode engaged, and the difference became easier to identify.
A gray ramp looked a little off-white on the VT30 and purer on the D8000. The optimal brightness setting floated by about 1 click worth on the D8000 depending on the picture content, though neither the D8000 nor the VT30 were rock solid.

Lights off, video material:
I saw that shadow detail was exaggerated but neutral toned on the VT30. Dark suits and hair were not quite as dark as I was used to seeing them, which could be a good or bad thing depending on your room lighting. On reference grade material in a dark room, it looked a bit on the washed out side of neutral.
The D8000's presentation was a little more exciting and detailed.
Because Cinema Smooth was turned off, the D8000's pans were a little herky-jerky. The VT30's pans and motion looked good in both 60 Hz and 96 Hz modes, though 96 Hz mode is more correct for most Blu Ray material.
The D8000's flesh tones were nearly spot on at first (just a tiny bit too pink), and with a slight tweak of the red CMS adjustment I was able to get incredible flesh tones. On the other hand, the VT30's flesh tones were a little less rich and a little too bland, though they were unoffensive. If you routinely find yourself reducing color, the VT30 would be more to your liking.
I looked very closely at the letterbox bars on a 2.40:1 movie and couldn't see any floating blacks on the VT30. However, there was some subtle pumping going on above black; a slight dynamic action in the grayscale and gamma as APL changed. That's not too uncommon in plasmas, but some are more stable. The D8000 was similar.
With bright images the D8000 came away looking purer and more detailed. For instance, clouds just looked more true to life on the D8000, and some of the daylight scenes in The Dark Knight had more detail and verve.
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Thanks for the replies guys! :)
So D8000 & ST30.
Hmm i like the D8000 if i get the right price i will get it although its not easily available.
& Kittu.. isn't ST30 an entry level model?
seems to me VT20 is better?! it's more expensive too.. :p
 
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Not sure why you want to consider ST30 or VT20 when you can buy D8000 for a reasonable price.
 
Guys,

I am finally planning to move in to our new house within 2 weeks so need to finalize a plasma for the living room. Can someone please provide info on the pricing and availability of the D8000 in Mumbai ?

Ideally, i am after plasmas with screen sizes 60 inch and above. D8000 looks good but would prefer to have an older model without the internet and smart features since i am sure i wont be using them.

Thanks in Advance.

Cheers,

Praveen.
 
Guys,

I am finally planning to move in to our new house within 2 weeks so need to finalize a plasma for the living room. Can someone please provide info on the pricing and availability of the D8000 in Mumbai ?

Ideally, i am after plasmas with screen sizes 60 inch and above. D8000 looks good but would prefer to have an older model without the internet and smart features since i am sure i wont be using them.

Thanks in Advance.

Cheers,

Praveen.
 
Some of our forum members returned the D8000 after noticing the peeling issues, it could just be the one panel thing.
 
Kittu said:
Some of our forum members returned the D8000 after noticing the peeling issues, it could just be the one panel thing.
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Our forum members Who?

do we have few 64" D8000 owners here in hifivision? that is news to me.

@OP

here is all the user feedback on peeling, read it to know more.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1341236&page=2
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1342438
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1341236
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1335353
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=20775296
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-1342438.html
 
Coming from a Panny 50 VT20 guy.......

No doubt u have selected the best models available in the market!

If money is not an issue & too much money is an issue then I recommend safely lean towards VT20, maybe a 55,60 or settle 50 like mine.

Its bcoz D8000 is damn expensive and only a 60+ " is available in India. Its rare to find the lower sizes here....
VT30 its another great model, which comes as a no surprise since its a step above from award winning vt20!
I wouldn't recommend u the st30....

If ur going then go for Panny VT series else Samsung D8000/D7000 series (Plasma)
U won't regret.

VT20 prize would be around 1.99k MRP and @ retailers u will get around 1.27K, which is the best choice IMHO and is available in all sizes.

All r great models quality wise but still for minor differences...
D8000=D7000>VT30>VT20>Sony XBR HX9XXX Leds> -------- Rest------ (Plasmas + LEDs)
 
Gamerps360 said:
Coming from a Panny 50 VT20 guy.......

No doubt u have selected the best models available in the market!

If money is not an issue & too much money is an issue then I recommend safely lean towards VT20, maybe a 55,60 or settle 50 like mine.

Its bcoz D8000 is damn expensive and only a 60+ " is available in India. Its rare to find the lower sizes here....
VT30 its another great model, which comes as a no surprise since its a step above from award winning vt20!
I wouldn't recommend u the st30....

If ur going then go for Panny VT series else Samsung D8000/D7000 series (Plasma)
U won't regret.

VT20 prize would be around 1.99k MRP and @ retailers u will get around 1.27K, which is the best choice IMHO and is available in all sizes.

All r great models quality wise but still for minor differences...
D8000=D7000>VT30>VT20>Sony XBR HX9XXX Leds> -------- Rest------ (Plasmas + LEDs)
Click to expand...
Hi gamerps30,
Thanks for your input. Kindly let me know about superiority of vt20 over st30 cos many reviews say that st30 blacks, pq is at par with vt20. 3d is superior over last year models that includes vt series. No floating blacks as of now(still early days). So at same price of 98k for 50vt20 and 50st30, what would be the choice. One more thing what salesman told is that vt20 doesnt have 2d to 3d conversion which st has(i am not sure about it). Being newer model why should one not go for st30.
 
Gamerps360 said:
Coming from a Panny 50 VT20 guy.......

No doubt u have selected the best models available in the market!

If money is not an issue & too much money is an issue then I recommend safely lean towards VT20, maybe a 55,60 or settle 50 like mine.

Its bcoz D8000 is damn expensive and only a 60+ " is available in India. Its rare to find the lower sizes here....
VT30 its another great model, which comes as a no surprise since its a step above from award winning vt20!
I wouldn't recommend u the st30....

If ur going then go for Panny VT series else Samsung D8000/D7000 series (Plasma)
U won't regret.

VT20 prize would be around 1.99k MRP and @ retailers u will get around 1.27K, which is the best choice IMHO and is available in all sizes.

All r great models quality wise but still for minor differences...
D8000=D7000>VT30>VT20>Sony XBR HX9XXX Leds> -------- Rest------ (Plasmas + LEDs)
Click to expand...

Don't know what is the basis of your ranking but it goes something like this

Sony HX925 = VT30 >VT20> D8000 >D7000
 
Stop ranking!
some people hate LED screens
so really no point doing that, btw guys
booked the VT20 50" for 1.07 lacs along with complete 3D Package of 2 glasses and Avatar 3D bluray now time to look into AVR and speakers for me. :D
 
avmaxfan said:
Don't know what is the basis of your ranking but it goes something like this

Sony HX925 = VT30 >VT20> D8000 >D7000
Click to expand...

I am sure the basis of your amazing ranking is side by side comparison of all these tv's playing the same HD content.:lol:
 
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