Best way to play music from mobile to AV Receiver

[rhythm]

Hi,

I have below mentioned components

1. Denon X3500H
2. Polk TSI 100
3. Schiit - Modi 2
4. Android Phone

I want to stream music from my phone to Denon receiver. I tried Bluetooth but most of the time AV Receiver failed to show up on my phone. When it did there was lot of pause.

So help me with better way to connect my phone to receiver.

 

[PTP]

Hi,

I have below mentioned components

1. Denon X3500H
2. Polk TSI 100
3. Schiit - Modi 2
4. Android Phone

I want to stream music from my phone to Denon receiver. I tried Bluetooth but most of the time AV Receiver failed to show up on my phone. When it did there was lot of pause.

So help me with better way to connect my phone to receiver.

If you are going to use your android phone as a streamer then your setup will be
Mobile > OTG > Modi2 > AVR > SPEAKERS

Or else you need to add a dedicated streamer like CCA or wiim mini or Rpi and feed it to modi2.

 

[rhythm]

else you need to add a dedicated streamer like CCA or wiim mini or Rpi and feed it to modi2

I guess I will go with dedicated streamer route. Read some online review wiim mini seems to be good option, but it is out of stock. Any idea from where I can buy it.

 

[PTP]

I guess I will go with dedicated streamer route. Read some online review wiim mini seems to be good option, but it is out of stock. Any idea from where I can buy it.

Revolverclub used to sell them but even they are out of stock now. Instead you could try the HifiBerry Digi+ Standard with RPI 3 B Bundle currently on sale in our forum. You need to buy a low noise smps like allo nirvana available with fabtolab.

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[PTP]

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Forgot to mention, Hifiberry has got optical out which can be directly fed to your av receiver. But again your dac will be useless. Instead you take the spdif out from hifiberry and feed your dac and then from dac to av receiver.

 

[PTP]

IMO HifiBerry Digi+ Standard with RPI 3 B Bundle is a much versatile option than wiim mini or ifi zen air blue

 

[sandeepmohan]

So help me with better way to connect my phone to receiver.

Your Denon is network capable, which means you can directly stream music to the AVR via your home network.
If you are a Apple user, you will find Air Play as an option listed under Apple Music.
Amazon Music App also lets you stream direct to the AVR via the App.
Your AVR will automatically list under the music app once connected to the network.

 

[rhythm]

Your Denon is network capable, which means you can directly stream music to the AVR via your home network.
If you are a Apple user, you will find Air Play as an option listed under Apple Music.
Amazon Music App also lets you stream direct to the AVR via the App.
Your AVR will automatically list under the music app once connected to the network

Thanks @sandeepmohan . I was also reading about network related features of the receiver. I understand that I need to download HEOS App and use it as streamer. I am not sure whether I understand fully, but I will surely try this.

 

[PTP]

Your Denon is network capable, which means you can directly stream music to the AVR via your home network.
If you are a Apple user, you will find Air Play as an option listed under Apple Music.
Amazon Music App also lets you stream direct to the AVR via the App.
Your AVR will automatically list under the music app once connected to the network.

Thanks for pointing out. I did not go through the avr spec before commenting.

 

[rhythm]

@PTP @sandeepmohan Thanks for your help. I have done the necessary setup and now I am streaming the music to AVR using HEOS app.

 

[sandeepmohan]

Glad that it worked out.
To be clear, the Denon HEOS app is not required to stream music from popular music streaming apps such as Spotify, Amazon Music, Apple Music, etc. The AV receiver should list up automatically on these apps once connected to the network.
Even if you are trying to play music stored on a computer, your playback software will indicate an option as to output audio to your Denon as long as the computer is connected to the same home network.

 

[argho]

Your Denon is network capable, which means you can directly stream music to the AVR via your home network.
If you are a Apple user, you will find Air Play as an option listed under Apple Music.
Amazon Music App also lets you stream direct to the AVR via the App.
Your AVR will automatically list under the music app once connected to the network.

Correct.

Download the HEOS app.
Then you can play music from your phone on the receiver.

The solution that I prefer :
- copy all your music files onto a USB drive
- connect the USB drive to your receiver
- The use the HEOS app on your phone as a controller to browse the files an play music.

I assume that you are trying to play music locally stored on your phone.
The solution above is for that.

If you are streaming, say from Spotify connect, you don not need to do any of this.
Your receiver is already Spotify Connect enabled.
Just go to the Spotify app and choose the device to play on.

Hope this helps.

 

[Happy8268]

Get an android box,mi 4k box or firestick,google chromecast with tv new launched.play youtube or cast from phone.simple

 

[rhythm]

Get an android box,mi 4k box or firestick,google chromecast with tv new launched.play youtube or cast from phone.simple

Thanks. As mentioned in previous comments my AVR is network capable. So I am directly streaming music to the AVR via home network. In spotify app I see the option of playing music directly from Denon receiver without bluetooth. This is how I am playing the music now.

 

[ISO]

Extremely satisfied with iPhone to Yamaha airplay

 

[Shaishav_Udani]

Correct.

Download the HEOS app.
Then you can play music from your phone on the receiver.

The solution that I prefer :
- copy all your music files onto a USB drive
- connect the USB drive to your receiver
- The use the HEOS app on your phone as a controller to browse the files an play music.

I assume that you are trying to play music locally stored on your phone.
The solution above is for that.

If you are streaming, say from Spotify connect, you don not need to do any of this.
Your receiver is already Spotify Connect enabled.
Just go to the Spotify app and choose the device to play on.

Hope this helps.

@argho I stream music from my phone using the following two options:

Option 1: I have download AppleMusic app on my Android based phone. To play music through my Denon AVR, I first need to chromecast the music to my Sony Google TV and from there it goes to my Denon AVR (via eArc). This is for a reason that I can't play AppleMusic directly from my AVR, as HEOS doesn't support AppleMusic.
Option 2: Alternatively, I have HEOS app on my phone. I can directly stream music from Spotify and play it my Denon AVR through HEOS app.

Both, for AppleMusic as well as Spotify, I have premium membership and are set to play at the highest quality.

I have noticed that when I play music using Option 1 compared to Option 2, the music quality is different. I feel in Option 2, the volume is more loud and the highs and lows are more clear. Music sounds more fuller. I'm doing this comparison using same music at same volume. I can understand that AppleMusic may be using different CODEC from Spotify, but apart from this, whether the difference could also be for a reason that my TV may be further compressing the quality.

Wanted to check is there a real different playing from Option 1 and Option 2 or is it just my perception?

 

[ajuvignesh]

Did you try spotify connect feature?

@argho I stream music from my phone using the following two options:

Option 1: I have download AppleMusic app on my Android based phone. To play music through my Denon AVR, I first need to chromecast the music to my Sony Google TV and from there it goes to my Denon AVR (via eArc). This is for a reason that I can't play AppleMusic directly from my AVR, as HEOS doesn't support AppleMusic.
Option 2: Alternatively, I have HEOS app on my phone. I can directly stream music from Spotify and play it my Denon AVR through HEOS app.

Both, for AppleMusic as well as Spotify, I have premium membership and are set to play at the highest quality.

I have noticed that when I play music using Option 1 compared to Option 2, the music quality is different. I feel in Option 2, the volume is more loud and the highs and lows are more clear. Music sounds more fuller. I'm doing this comparison using same music at same volume. I can understand that AppleMusic may be using different CODEC from Spotify, but apart from this, whether the difference could also be for a reason that my TV may be further compressing the quality.

Wanted to check is there a real different playing from Option 1 and Option 2 or is it just my perception?

 

[argho]

@argho I stream music from my phone using the following two options:

Option 1: I have download AppleMusic app on my Android based phone. To play music through my Denon AVR, I first need to chromecast the music to my Sony Google TV and from there it goes to my Denon AVR (via eArc). This is for a reason that I can't play AppleMusic directly from my AVR, as HEOS doesn't support AppleMusic.
Option 2: Alternatively, I have HEOS app on my phone. I can directly stream music from Spotify and play it my Denon AVR through HEOS app.

Both, for AppleMusic as well as Spotify, I have premium membership and are set to play at the highest quality.

I have noticed that when I play music using Option 1 compared to Option 2, the music quality is different. I feel in Option 2, the volume is more loud and the highs and lows are more clear. Music sounds more fuller. I'm doing this comparison using same music at same volume. I can understand that AppleMusic may be using different CODEC from Spotify, but apart from this, whether the difference could also be for a reason that my TV may be further compressing the quality.

Wanted to check is there a real different playing from Option 1 and Option 2 or is it just my perception?

Option 2 is far better.

As suggested above, for Spotify, us the Spotify Connect feature.
This eliminates the phone as a middleman, and directly streams music from the Spotify servers to your receiver.

 

[Shaishav_Udani]

Did you try spotify connect feature?

Hi I suppose I'm playing using Spotify connect as I can directly play from Spotify even without opening HOES app.

 

[ajuvignesh]

Spotify connect is more than sufficient, in my opinion.