I again do not agree.
Bookshelf or Floorstanding Speakers: Which Should You Choose? A guide
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I again do not agree.
sound_cycle
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Curious.
I can hear organs, cellos and double basses and bass guitars perfectly well thank you. Tunefully too.
With the dial at 7.
I found that for the same source speaker amp and volume the DAC makes all the difference. And I suspect that some fooling around with a DSP should help too
Why do i need a sub ? What am I missing in the music I listen to ? (the usual stuff that somebody stuck in the 60-70s would)
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gr
Any FM @ Mumbai with this setup? Won't anyway go to a dealer for a listen. Pls advise.
Amitkg
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sound_cycle
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Yes, you can. But lot of us don'thyeah:
umm you missed the curious question.
Let me try again . What am I missing musically if I don't have a sub. What instruments ? what bits of the music ?
BTW there was no can-communicate-with-elephants-because-of-my-super-good-low-frequency-hearing boast there. Just a statement of what is (seems to be ?) audible with speakers that claim a 43 - 26,500 Hz range
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gr
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keith_correa
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What is your definition of satellites? "Bose" like cubes?
keith_correa
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I had the SuperZeroes + an Acoustic Research sub but the sub has been gifted to a friend because one of the SZ tweeter VC conked off.
keith_correa
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Possibly nothing!!!
This is my understanding about satellite.
- Smaller drive units, say less than 3inch and with limited freq response.
- Very small cabinet, mostly die cast type ?
Q acoustics 2020 and 2010 are sold as bookshelf by the manufacturer
Probably satellite v/s bookshelf is a topic of another discussion...
Standing bass with correct weight, the lowest piano notes, the air pushed by kick drums and tympany.
A small part of electronic music thrives on frequency shifter drops (like tape slowing down to standstill).
Perhaps I am not able to articulate well, but imagine having a knob that shifts all frequencies towards 0 Hz as you twist more.
sound_cycle
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Thanks. Had to look that up and found that "Particular genres such as drum and bass and dubstep often feature the whole bass-line reproduced in sub-bass frequencies."
as is evident not genres I have heard (of)
ciao
gr
ghatgepatil
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You guys should seriously contemplate listening to TL speakers if the lower frequencies is the matter of contention. The subtle, yet tight bass generated is a world different from those from bass-reflex designs. TL speakers should not be so common as the other variety, as only a few manufacturers have commercialized them. Also, should be quite pricey due to low off-takes and design complexities. One might never miss a sub with them playing any genre.
johncarver1967
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The following points need to be borne in mind while choosing a bookshelf vs floorstander :
1. At the same price range a floorstander will be of lower quality normally than a bookshelf.
2. Its better to buy a high quality book shelf than a lower quality floorstander.
3. Good floorstanders are expensive ( generally above $1000) and therefore it may be better to go for a bookshelf to get a similar quality at a lower price.
4. Frequency response below 40 Hz will be possible only with high quality book shelfs. Bass response normally is more in floorstanders, the purest route being larger size for low range drivers and not so pure methods like ported enlclosures, more expensive materials.
5. A small room will do well with a quality bookshelf speaker rather than a heavy floorstander.
1. At the same price range a floorstander will be of lower quality normally than a bookshelf.
2. Its better to buy a high quality book shelf than a lower quality floorstander.
3. Good floorstanders are expensive ( generally above $1000) and therefore it may be better to go for a bookshelf to get a similar quality at a lower price.
4. Frequency response below 40 Hz will be possible only with high quality book shelfs. Bass response normally is more in floorstanders, the purest route being larger size for low range drivers and not so pure methods like ported enlclosures, more expensive materials.
5. A small room will do well with a quality bookshelf speaker rather than a heavy floorstander.
Any FM who wants to experience what tight & natural bass is all about are welcomed for a listen. It took me close to 7 years to perfect the TL design.
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I can attest to that. I have TL floorstanders (not well known at all - Carnegie Acoustics CST1) - and the bass quality and output is quite surprising. The sound also feels a lot more natural compared to bass reflex designs.
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rocksterraghu
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I'm sorry Amit, I believe that isn't a very good assumption. Good speakers are able to deliver the whole frequency range at all volume levels, provided they are powered by a good amplifier.
keith_correa
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There's no getting around Physics! "Good" has got nothing to do with it. A lot of the delivery at low volumes is dependent on the amp too and the "grip" that it has on the speakers.
TL spkrs can deliver clean deep bass at low levels as its impedance @ resonance is around 60% lower than other box loading types.
keith_correa
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Can you please explain why "clean" and "deep" is a function of the impedance?
Also, my response to rocksterraghu was for "Good speakers are able to deliver the whole frequency range at all volume levels"
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