reubensm
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I think anilva is speaking from experience. I don't think I'll ever get to that level with EMTs, 1200s etc. The one thing guaranteed is that after 36 years of vinyl listening/experience, my feet are well and truly grounded
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I think anilva is speaking from experience. I don't think I'll ever get to that level with EMTs, 1200s etc. The one thing guaranteed is that after 36 years of vinyl listening/experience, my feet are well and truly grounded
reubensm
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Well Sachin, I may sound a bit pompous here but I tend to agree with you after all that I've heard about idlers. I've grown up listening to idlers and yes, I can relate to this difference when people talk about it. That's why I went the L75 way before the 1200/1210. If the L75 pays off, then its bye bye 1200/1210. If not, I'm headed in the direction of the 1200/1210.
Gerry_the_Merry
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Hi Rueben, congratulations. Your economical acquisition of the L75 makes it the favourite, in my humble opinion, over the Technics, within a reasonable budget (given enough money, you can make the L75 beat the SL1200, and of course vice versa).
reubensm
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Yes Gerry, not trying to brag here but honestly, the commercials are not quite part of the equation for me. I am just trying to follow my father's philosophy which was to make simple equipment sound very listenable. I was amazed by the L75's simplicity and really enthusiastic about what can be done. However I am not going to get expensive tonearms or plinths into the equation yet. I am going to start with the L75's stock arm and stock plinth. Talking about the stock plinth, I must really thank Mr. Kuruvila here. He actually called me up and offered to bring the plinth to Trivandrum for me. Now, I don't need to run my L75 on an old wooden stool turned upside down. Really appreciate his gesture and his interest in ensuring that my L75 serves me well. Once I have the stock arm and plinth in place, I will be in a position to evaluate how the L75 sounds. Then I'll take a call on whether to proceed further with the investment in a tonearm and layered plinth. The SL3200 is still my favourite, loyal and hardworking servant. I am planning to set it up on a second rig with the 3020 for a planned home-office. I am so fond of the 3200 that I cannot imagine life without it. I still say that if I had to choose between the 3200 and the L75 and if my life depended on it, I would stand by the 3200
After about 30 odd years of listening to idlers and the 5+ years with the DD, I honestly feel that if the L75 clicks with me, I'll be in for a ride of a life time. I still vividly remember how our old records used to sound on the idler. Lets see if I can replicate that. If not, I am very tempted to look at the EMT 938 (if I can find one in decent shape)
After about 30 odd years of listening to idlers and the 5+ years with the DD, I honestly feel that if the L75 clicks with me, I'll be in for a ride of a life time. I still vividly remember how our old records used to sound on the idler. Lets see if I can replicate that. If not, I am very tempted to look at the EMT 938 (if I can find one in decent shape)
Yes Gerry, not trying to brag here but honestly, the commercials are not quite part of the equation for me. I am just trying to follow my father's philosophy which was to make simple equipment sound very listenable. I was amazed by the L75's simplicity and really enthusiastic about what can be done. However I am not going to get expensive tonearms or plinths into the equation yet. I am going to start with the L75's stock arm and stock plinth. Talking about the stock plinth, I must really thank Mr. Kuruvila here. He actually called me up and offered to bring the plinth to Trivandrum for me. Now, I don't need to run my L75 on an old wooden stool turned upside down. Really appreciate his gesture and his interest in ensuring that my L75 serves me well. Once I have the stock arm and plinth in place, I will be in a position to evaluate how the L75 sounds. Then I'll take a call on whether to proceed further with the investment in a tonearm and layered plinth. The SL3200 is still my favourite, loyal and hardworking servant. I am planning to set it up on a second rig with the 3020 for a planned home-office. I am so fond of the 3200 that I cannot imagine life without it. I still say that if I had to choose between the 3200 and the L75 and if my life depended on it, I would stand by the 3200
After about 30 odd years of listening to idlers and the 5+ years with the DD, I honestly feel that if the L75 clicks with me, I'll be in for a ride of a life time. I still vividly remember how our old records used to sound on the idler. Lets see if I can replicate that. If not, I am very tempted to look at the EMT 938 (if I can find one in decent shape)
Yes its the simplicity which actually got me amazed as well. Its all mechanical and basic !
Regarding the plinth you are better off without the stock plinth on. just rest the base plate on bricks (better still concrete bricks) on each of the 4 corners and lightly damp the top plate from under ( bitumen would be ideal..also can use Cork). Especially if you are going to use it as an evaluation as you will know the impact of a layered plinth only without the stock plinth which is the worst enemy of the Lenco (followed by the Tonearm
)Thad E Ginathom
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He really is an amazing man. With his love for music, and his speciality in vinyl that he puts so much into, he actually makes the world a better place.
reubensm
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Can't agree more. Whenever I speak to him, I feel as though I am speaking with my father. He used to speak the same way, relate to the same things and have the same levels of enthusiasm.
kuruvilajacob
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Reuben,
That's a good complement. I know from your posts what a great man your Dad was.
kuruvilajacob
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I am still waiting for your visit this side. Yes, I love everything to do with Vinyl. I am proud to say that over the last 9 or 10 years, I have played a part in converting hundreds of people back into Vinyl or helped start their Vinyl journey and continue to do so and I must thank all of you for your support.
Thad E Ginathom
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I know ... and I'm still waiting to make it. Our July trip got cancelled this year as the monsoon was being a bit over-enthusiastic, and I'm afraid my wife is a bit what-Kerala-again? and i can't really blame her for wanting a change.
reubensm
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met Mr. Kuruvila's son, late evening yesterday and received the L75 stock plinth, which he carried down to Trivandrum for me, courtesy Mr. Kuruvila. This is vital step forward for me or else I'd have to test the Lenco on bricks. I believe its very important to get a flavour of the stock L75 sound before experimentation. Unfortunately I could not spend a lot of time with Mr. Kuruvila's son as I had to reach home by 9:30pm to get on to a global call and also, had to return my brother's car which I borrowed due to mine being in the workshop for servicing. Just got some time to place the deck in the plinth and check out the fit (Mr. Kuruvila actually messaged me, offering another one, if this one did not fit, I am lost for words to describe is generosity). Here are some pics. I have not attempted to play the TT yet as I can't find the time to sit with it. Will try to, the week after next.
ANILKUMAR
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I have not attempted to play the TT yet as I can't find the time to sit with it. Will try to, the week after next.
Looking good.
Record Player
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Looks neat. Does the stock plinth come in a simple box type or is it multi-layered? Now you will be able to get a good perspective on how the stock performs and accordingly think of upgrades.
And yes, Mr. Kuruvila is a fantastic gentleman who really extends his enthusiasm and support
. Surely this is a build up for you until you actually meet him in person. Now that I presume, you will have no words to explain that excitement!
reubensm
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Looks neat. Does the stock plinth come in a simple box type or is it multi-layered? Now you will be able to get a good perspective on how the stock performs and accordingly think of upgrades.
And yes, Mr. Kuruvila is a fantastic gentleman who really extends his enthusiasm and support
Its the old cabinet type which is what I was looking for. Fortunately, the Lenco deck which I got my hands on is in absolute mint condition (it has stored away for a long long time) and hence putting it in the stock plinth can get me close to how it would have sounded when delivered from the factory. In my projects, I am very particular to start from base and improve as we go forward. Then the actual progress can be properly measured, evaluated and appreciated
Thad E Ginathom
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Please excuse my turntable ignorance, but, is there any sort of suspension there, or is it just sitting on the wood? I find it hard to imagine that it could be, due to interference from vibrations.
reubensm
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Its just sitting on the wood cabinet. I did not bolt it on. Once I get it all set up, then I'll bolt it on. The deck came with its original mounting screws.
The factory Lenco L75 is mounted on four springs. The springs sit on the wooden plinth. Although it uses springs, it is not a suspension like in a Linn LP12 where the platter assembly and arm board are (together) suspended on three springs that need to be tuned to obtain horizontal balance.
Thad E Ginathom
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Thanks, guys. Whilst I'm definitely no TT expert, I've lived with them all my life. Just thought there had to be something there!
And funnily that's where lenco went wrong. The TT sounds better without both and ideally without the plinth as well !
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