Help me make the decision

[kuruvilajacob]

Hi all vinyl fans,
There is nothing to beat vinyl if the TT set up is right. I would suggest to any aspirant to vinyl to start with a pre-used turntable and get the feel of what vinyl sounds like before jumping into buying any of the new TTs like Pro-jet or Rega. Infact, I prefer to listen to a well set up vintage TT like Denon DP-60 L or ARXA or Thorens TD-150 to any of the new models

 

[akd]

Normalisation of levels (raising the level of low passages and compressing loud passages to some pre-defined values) is an "evil" practiced by most mixing engineers and carried forward by mastering engineers. So dynamic range is reduced knowingly. This does not reflect what a musician intends his/her music to sound like. If, for example, a drummer expends extra energy in giving a sudden and tight thwack to his snare drum, his idea is that this particular note or passage of notes must stand out from the preceding and following notes. It is intended to sound loud and hit you in the face. If the final mix doesn't convey that, then much is already lost to the final listener.

absolutely true, a perfect musical reproduction is not all about heart pumping bass or glaring treble. If one intends to reach close to the sound that appear realistically importance of quieter passages, dB level disparity among instruments, decay, sudden attack, creating a sound stage/soundscape where some instruments seem to come from a background while some take the center stage with lead voice(s) take over all of them. Digital recording is clear, crisp but more often than not lacks these intricate issues while a good condition record amidst surface noise delivers almost all of these and one can notice them easily.

 

[wlg]

They also offer a cartridge upgrade from stock 2m RED. I told this is worth it.

Adding to what Sachu had said in an earlier post, going used route is a very viable option depending on where you are based. In Delhi and Mumbai, you can easily get good used tables in perfect working condition with cartridge. In Mumbai - right now - there is a Technics SL 3300 for sale. I don't know the price or condition, but same can found out if you are interested.
Joshua

Hi
Dennon Turntables available at The Shop entrance of 'The Club' opp DN Police Station, Link Road, Andheri (W) will find out the price

 

[Dressel]

GUYs

Thanxalot !

That was exhaustive survey of vinyl status in India.

Points to be taken :

1) A good CD recording is 'almost as good as' a record.
But the quality of old hindi Film CD is pathetic

2) Even if you have vinyl you can not run away from CDs.
Cost, utility, convenience matter. agreed.

3) To start with one should have a used TT
In this regard I feel a used TT& used records would be a
worse combo.

4)Vinyl come back is ZOOTH ....
I am seeing virtually every western title in vinyl.
Recently they are releasing in music on vinyl & MP3 downloads
only .. no CDS. All hindi release in 2011 is on vinyl.

I think I am justified going vinyl.
I am gradually shifting to analog stereo. Will shift to amp from AVR in the next phase. & will come back to you all for help again.
Thank you all for now.

You were really great.

 

[sachu888]

To start with one should have a used TT
In this regard I feel a used TT& used records would be a
worse combo.

Not true, any half decent vintage TT if kept in good condition is at par or better than today's entry level players available in India.You can get a DD Technics/Dual/Philips(312)/Yamaha with wooden plinth in less than Rs 10000/ and they are surely better than entry level new TTs.I am using a 30 year old Technics SlD-303 and its really good.The current Denon tables aren't made by Denon. They're made in China by the same company who OEM makes the NuMark, Ion, Stanton T series, Audio Technica AT PL-120, etc. DJ-2300SQ ???????????,??????, ??, ????

Regards,
Sachin

 

[vinyl]

Recordings made in the digital domain, and then pressed to vinyl may be ok. Infact people who say vinyl sounds better than cd/ digital, or those who are not so much in favour of vinyl, really do not understand the reason as to why vinyl sounds better. It is definitely true that cd/ digital audio is clean and crisp in comparison to vinyl, whereas vinyl has that crackling sound and etc. But still vinyl is better, because a cd's dynamic range is higher than vinyl and as a result a cd/ digital media is always prone to the wrong exploitation of it's dynamic range. Music on digital media are unaturally compressed and are made louder, and the end result is that inspite of the music being clean and crisp, it is painfull to the ears. Whereas in vinyl, even if the recording is made digitally, the mastering, compression, etc., has to be made in accordance with dynamics of vinyl. There is normally no undue compression and loudness in vinyl, as a result the music sound natural, warm and soothing. Again longevity of vinyl over cd is also much much more. A cd can fail all of a sudden, but not in the case of vinyl.

 

[prepress]

^^ This video will explain better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh-23EUP-s8