HT for the broke!

[nagbbv]

I am indeed checking the classifieds section of AVforums. Thank you for the tip.

Here, the pricing is ridiculous, I am getting quotes if 40-45k for the puny 250bt.

Of course but now the abroad prices are almost equal to India for most of the categories. Epson TW9400 pricing is excellent in India compare to USA pricing.

 

[harryneopotter]

Of course but now the abroad prices are almost equal to India for most of the categories. Epson TW9400 pricing is excellent in India compare to USA pricing.

Well, Epson projectors are the only exception I have seen. Otherwise everything is around 40-80% higher priced here.

1600h: 40k in EU, 60+k here
Benq Tk700sti: 81k in EU, 140+k here

 

[nagbbv]

Well, Epson projectors are the only exception I have seen. Otherwise everything is around 40-80% higher priced here.

1600h: 40k in EU, 60+k here
Benq Tk700sti: 81k in EU, 140+k here

Here prices are cheaper for some models and some are 20-30% more.

SVS PB2000 Pro -92k (USA)/1L (Dubai) in India nearly 20-25% more
Denon 3700H-132K (USA)/135k online-120k offline (Dubai) we can get it atleast 10% less in India.

 

[venky61]

Hello good people.
So I have almost finalized the video setup (tw7100 or 9400). Now for each of them, a sound bar or htib won't do any justice. But do I have any better option in 60k?

1. Jbl Bar 5.1 (while I like the sound, the reliability and durability is an issue. Once the warranty is over, can conk off with no solution)

2. Denon 250bt + Taga 506 5.0 + my Nsw300 yamaha sub.

I would rather get some pre loved hardware but not sure where to look for it. Olx and Facebook marketplace is filled of generic overpriced stuff. Any recommendations?

I have the JBL 5.1 and using from 2 years. So if you need any info or clarification regarding the product, feel free to ask.
I love the convinience of no wires on this setup but I do miss that it's not upgradable to Atmos.. wish it could be modular like the LG ones.

 

[harryneopotter]

I have the JBL 5.1 and using from 2 years. So if you need any info or clarification regarding the product, feel free to ask.
I love the convinience of no wires on this setup but I do miss that it's not upgradable to Atmos.. wish it could be modular like the LG ones.

How's the performance for movies and how big is your room, if you don't mind me prying

 

[venky61]

How's the performance for movies and how big is your room, if you don't mind me prying

Surely great for movies. We reduced going to a theatre as the sound effects are better with these compared to some theatres.
My room is around 3m x 3.5m (Considering the viewing area alone)
Pros:
1. Thundering Bass. My Sofa literally trembles.
2. Excellent Surround (ambience) sounds
3. 4K HDR Passthrough
4. Wireless - Extremely convinient
5. Individual control for Surround and Bass

Cons:
1. No Dynamic range compression except with DTS
2. No separate control for Mids and it could have been slightly better for sure
3. Interference with 5Ghz Wifi in some channels
4. Surrounds have to be charged

Happy to share anytime

 

[harryneopotter]

Surely great for movies. We reduced going to a theatre as the sound effects are better with these compared to some theatres.
My room is around 3m x 3.5m (Considering the viewing area alone)
Pros:
1. Thundering Bass. My Sofa literally trembles.
2. Excellent Surround (ambience) sounds
3. 4K HDR Passthrough
4. Wireless - Extremely convinient
5. Individual control for Surround and Bass

Cons:
1. No Dynamic range compression except with DTS
2. No separate control for Mids and it could have been slightly better for sure
3. Interference with 5Ghz Wifi in some channels
4. Surrounds have to be charged

Happy to share anytime

Lovely. I rem the demo I took 2 years ago and I was indeed impressed by the rumbling bass. I am still surprised that to get similar low end performance, I need to spend a similar amount just for the subwoofer.

 

[spirovious]

Polk signature series you mean?

So how does this sound:
1. Avr (Denon 1500h) from EU for around 28k
2. Bookshelves and center for LCR (QA 30xx series or something equivalent)
3. Use my current Ns SW300 for now

Any recommendations?

They have differnt models from sub satelites to towers. Most of them are best suited for movies. You can select as per requirement after demo.

 

[ajuvignesh]

How big is your room?
From your listings I liked the Q acoustics combo and taga combo. Since you already have a sub, you can buy a better sub later.
Get a bookshelf now and lter you can put the bookshelf on the rear and upgrade to a floorstander. If you want a floorstander now, get something like Taga 806F.

 

[harryneopotter]

How big is your room?
From your listings I liked the Q acoustics combo and taga combo. Since you already have a sub, you can buy a better sub later.
Get a bookshelf now and lter you can put the bookshelf on the rear and upgrade to a floorstander. If you want a floorstander now, get something like Taga 806F.

The room is around 420 Sq feet. I am thinking of moving the Taga floor standers (806f), center (806c) and surrounds (806s) to the big living room and get the Q Acoustics package (2 x 3020i, 2 x 3010i and 1 x 3090c) to the 180 sqfeet bedroom instead. How does this sound?

 

[ajuvignesh]

The room is around 420 Sq feet. I am thinking of moving the Taga floor standers (806f), center (806c) and surrounds (806s) to the big living room and get the Q Acoustics package (2 x 3020i, 2 x 3010i and 1 x 3090c) to the 180 sqfeet bedroom instead. How does this sound?

My guess is that the Q acoustics package will have sound quality while the Taga package will have the authority. However, 806C can be a weak link in that package.

 

[cat]

Lovely. I rem the demo I took 2 years ago and I was indeed impressed by the rumbling bass. I am still surprised that to get similar low end performance, I need to spend a similar amount just for the subwoofer.

My primary desire is for deep bass, and I recently went down the rabbit hole researching setups. My budget is around 60k, and initially, I thought I needed a whole AVR setup. The plan was to start with just the AVR (eating my whole budget) and 2 speakers, then save up for a subwoofer later. But then I saw the comments about the JBL Bar 5.1...

The JBL Bar 5.1 (510W) is going for 60k on Amazon, I want to make the right choice. So, here's my dilemma:

How much would an AVR setup cost to match the bass of the JBL Bar 5.1 which you auditioned?

How's the overall sound quality of JBL bar 5.1 compared to an AVR setup? Is it a night and day difference?

People say soundbars are bad for music, but are okay for movies? Why?

Are there advantages to the AVR route beyond upgradability and longevity?

Does the JBL Bar 5.1 lack good sound imaging since all front channels are close together? Will it make it seem like all the sounds from the front are coming from the middle, leading to poor sound imaging?

Some folks say the Logitech Z906 competes with the JBL for bass. Should I consider it?

Both JBL and Logitech only offer 1 year warranty. How long do these systems typically last? Compared to an AVR setup?

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Budget Breakdown:

AVR: Initial 3.1 setup would cost around 50k for AVR + 60k subwoofer + 60k speakers, requiring me to save up for each piece.

JBL Soundbar: One-time purchase (50-60k)

Logitech z906: One-time purchase (30k)

Is the overall sound quality of soundbars THAT bad compared to a custom HT setup?

Basically, if the JBL bar 5.1 or Logitech z906 can deliver as powerful bass but with a slightly worse sound quality, that might be okay. But can they compete with a custom HT setup for that deep, room-shaking experience - the kind of bass that is not just a weak rumble in the seat but is powerful enough to be physically felt rumbling through your chest and travelling down your body?

 

[cat]

1. Jbl Bar 5.1

2. Denon 250bt

build the components in stages if you don't have the budget right now and opt for some decent components and don't go for the cheapest ones. You will definately feel the urge to upgrade within 3 to 6 months if you go by the cheapest 5.1 setup now.

I'm in the same boat as you were!

Here's a breakdown of the receiver options I found on Amazon:

JBL 250BT: 28k

JBL 580BT: 35k

Denon X1800H: 53k

I'm torn between spending my entire budget (60k) on the X1800H for 7ch and getting speakers and a sub later, or grabbing the cheaper 250BT, getting L/R with the money saved.

The 250BT might be the faster option to get a decent sound with a sub, but the X1800H offers 7 channels, which might be useful for future expansion.

I'm a bass lover and a powerful subwoofer is a must-have, but the X1800H is a big investment. The 250BT lets me get the subwoofer quicker, but I'm unsure if I'll ever need 7 channels.

I'm curious to know what you decided to do in the end. Also, where did you demo the JBL Bar 5.1?

 

[rwnano]

My primary desire is for deep bass, and I recently went down the rabbit hole researching setups. My budget is around 60k, and initially, I thought I needed a whole AVR setup. The plan was to start with just the AVR (eating my whole budget) and 2 speakers, then save up for a subwoofer later. But then I saw the comments about the JBL Bar 5.1...

The JBL Bar 5.1 (510W) is going for 60k on Amazon, I want to make the right choice. So, here's my dilemma:

How much would an AVR setup cost to match the bass of the JBL Bar 5.1 which you auditioned?

How's the overall sound quality of JBL bar 5.1 compared to an AVR setup? Is it a night and day difference?

People say soundbars are bad for music, but are okay for movies? Why?

Are there advantages to the AVR route beyond upgradability and longevity?

Does the JBL Bar 5.1 lack good sound imaging since all front channels are close together? Will it make it seem like all the sounds from the front are coming from the middle, leading to poor sound imaging?

Some folks say the Logitech Z906 competes with the JBL for bass. Should I consider it?

Both JBL and Logitech only offer 1 year warranty. How long do these systems typically last? Compared to an AVR setup?

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Budget Breakdown:

AVR: Initial 3.1 setup would cost around 50k for AVR + 60k subwoofer + 60k speakers, requiring me to save up for each piece.

JBL Soundbar: One-time purchase (50-60k)

Logitech z906: One-time purchase (30k)

Is the overall sound quality of soundbars THAT bad compared to a custom HT setup?

Basically, if the JBL bar 5.1 or Logitech z906 can deliver as powerful bass but with a slightly worse sound quality, that might be okay. But can they compete with a custom HT setup for that deep, room-shaking experience - the kind of bass that is not just a weak rumble in the seat but is powerful enough to be physically felt rumbling through your chest and travelling down your body?

Transmission line speakers have very good Deep punchy bass. Try them. PMC makes them.

 

[Phani24]

I'm in the same boat as you were!

Here's a breakdown of the receiver options I found on Amazon:

JBL 250BT: 28k

JBL 580BT: 35k

Denon X1800H: 53k

I'm torn between spending my entire budget (60k) on the X1800H for 7ch and getting speakers and a sub later, or grabbing the cheaper 250BT, getting L/R with the money saved.

The 250BT might be the faster option to get a decent sound with a sub, but the X1800H offers 7 channels, which might be useful for future expansion.

I'm a bass lover and a powerful subwoofer is a must-have, but the X1800H is a big investment. The 250BT lets me get the subwoofer quicker, but I'm unsure if I'll ever need 7 channels.

I'm curious to know what you decided to do in the end. Also, where did you demo the JBL Bar 5.1?

Dont buy from Amazon. Check your local dealer first. If no dealer acailable check with online dealers like Hifimart ,Avshack etc. Buy 580 bt and 2 Land R speaker's. Later you can add remaining

 

[mark2gp]

Dont buy from Amazon. Check your local dealer first. If no dealer acailable check with online dealers like Hifimart ,Avshack etc. Buy 580 bt and 2 Land R speaker's. Later you can add remaining

Any issues in particular with Amazon? Most products are available for lower prices than other retailers.

 

[Phani24]

Any issues in particular with Amazon? Most products are available for lower prices than other retailers.

No warrenty. Dont go with amazon for electronic products.

 

[dilliaudiophile]

Dont buy from Amazon. Check your local dealer first. If no dealer acailable check with online dealers like Hifimart ,Avshack etc. Buy 580 bt and 2 Land R speaker's. Later you can add remaining

If that is not the plan and the plan is to get all the speakers together (minimum LCR and sub) then what combo would you recommend for the cheapest possible but half decent deal.

 

[Phani24]

If that is not the plan and the plan is to get all the speakers together (minimum LCR and sub) then what combo would you recommend for the cheapest possible but half decent deal.

I think fms budget is 60k. So with slightly 5k increase hd can get avr and L and R speakers.

 

[efernand1]

If budget is a challenge the best would be the pre owned market (OLX / Facebook Market Place) where there are some individual genuine sellers including some resellers / dealers. Limited gear available and so one would need to move quickly to close a deal face to face after doing all relevant checks. The key is to understand the brand model by doing Home Work (visit online reviews, go through the owners manual, see youtube videos) so that you have some background of the gear you wish to purchase.