HT setup including room acoustics 8-10lakhs budget

Aquarian09 said:
Well,
First things first, thats one really good budget you fixed for that monstrous room :D
That room will definitely need a 9.2.4 or 11.2.4 :D depends on your budget as well, so lets start with a 7.1.2 or maybe 5.1.2 just to make sure that everything will be in your budget, you can increase the number of speakers if its not crossing your budget.

I seriously and strongly recommend you to do very good room acoustics, its a very big room and you gotta be very careful and precise with acoustics or else the entire speaker and other equipment will be of no use. Next will be wiring, if u ask me, I would certainly suggest to go ahead with wiring a 9.2.4 or 11.2.4 system, for future upgrades.

Regarding the speakers and equipment, I again strongly recommend you to demo 2 or 3 times every brand thats available in Hyderabad. Then you will surely have numerous questions which we are very much ready to answer :D

Raghu is very good with cables and electronics take his suggestion for sure. His calculated guidance will very much help us.

i have replied to your PM, get back to me regarding that :)

Cheers,
Aditya
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Hi Aditya, thank you so much for the talk and giving some inputs on where to start my quest, i know its a lot of research to do before finalizing anything. I am sure members here will guide me build a good HT :)
 
MJ23Bulls said:
Will a 20:50:20:10 (in the same order as you've mentioned above) good budget split?

Thanks
BK
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BK,
There is no hard rule here. Yes it is good to start with a split and then adjust it during audition phase. The split acceptable to you goes back to port #17 in this thread. Needs, means and opportunities.

Cheers,
Raghu
 
Hi Sam... Thats a decent size for a HT.. I've also started working on a HT setup and as the experts suggested, will start with acoustics. My room size is 21X18. Planning to get the wiring done for 9.2.4 but will start may be with 7.1.2.

I need to finalize on acoustics and also planning to start the auditions soon. Until what I've heard till now, I am inclined towards Polk TSX 440 for fronts. There is still lot of homework to do... Lets get going...:clapping:
 
Well there you go. 2 FMs in the same city getting dedicated HT done at the same time.
Opportunity for a group buy and hard bargaining if you decide on same vendor(s) for acoustics, electronics and speakers :)

Cheers,
Raghu
 
mands said:
Hi Sam... Thats a decent size for a HT.. I've also started working on a HT setup and as the experts suggested, will start with acoustics. My room size is 21X18. Planning to get the wiring done for 9.2.4 but will start may be with 7.1.2.

I need to finalize on acoustics and also planning to start the auditions soon. Until what I've heard till now, I am inclined towards Polk TSX 440 for fronts. There is still lot of homework to do... Lets get going...:clapping:
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Hi mands, Please let me know what are you planning on acoustics side. If you have already visited anything related to it,kindly provide the leads. Thank you :)
 
raghupb said:
Well there you go. 2 FMs in the same city getting dedicated HT done at the same time.
Opportunity for a group buy and hard bargaining if you decide on same vendor(s) for acoustics, electronics and speakers :)

Cheers,
Raghu
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Hopefully yeah, may be a good deal on the cards :)
 
I visited Vector systems for acoustics ... And as you mentioned it comes out to Rs. 450/- per sft without the woodden panels on the walls... I am planning for natural wood flooring for the HT. I was away last week... Need to discuss with my architect on the details of acoustics and will keep you posted...
 
There's acoustic treatment and there's room equalization - where you let the receiver control how it will sound in various parts of the room. Good EQ is really important for you especially since you have a large room and are looking for a high quality experience. It will allow you to control and shape the sound in various parts of the room, and acoustic treatment, once done, can only take you so far and will not allow you to customize the sound either.

Pre-pros aren't all that uber expensive compared to top of the line AVRs. But they are the heart or the engine of your home theater and will give far better performance than any AVR.

Please consider the Emotiva XMC-1, which is a 7.1 preprocessor, and has won a whole host of awards this year. Most importantly, it comes with Dirac Live, which is considered the benchmark when it comes to room equalization. Consider that Dirac Live, just the software, costs $700. You can buy the prepro directly online and they will ship it to you. Their after sales support is quite decent too.

https://emotiva.com/products/pres-and-pros/xmc-1

Emotiva XMC-1 7.2 Channel AV Processor Review | Audioholics

You could pair it with the Emotiva XPA-7, which is a 7 channel power amp with real horsepower.

Disclaimer: I make these suggestions based on my research for a future HT and the product reviews and reputation, not from personal experience.
 
An AVR with pre-outs allows for incremental addition of out board amps for channels if needed. Maybe for L/C/R and leave the rest of the channels amplified by the AVR.

Emotiva prepro+amp combo is listed at $2500 + $1600. Then add shipping and customs. May turn out to be expensive for many folks. Also, is there a need for 200W amplification for surrounds and back surrounds? That is the real question.
Never heard Dirac in action, so no comment.

Emotiva has some very good VFM products. In fact I have products from another internet direct vendor (Outlaw Audio) and they rock. Sourcing and service is always a thing to consider when there is no local presence.

Cheers,
Raghu
 
The benefit of the prepro/amp combo is that when you want to upgrade it's a little less painful! I've got a Marantz AV prepro(7005) mated to a ClassD 5 channel amp, am quite happy with the combo. The AVR combo is a one box solution, easier for some to handle.
 
If you are spending 8-10 lakhs, looking at Polks is a bad idea. They are not just not good enough.
The pre-pro combination is good but very expensive. A top of the line AVR will cost you 2L.
Def tech's in-wall speakers were good, Paradigm SA-25 are very good. If you are looking for real top-end, you can look at Wisdom Audio's Insight and Sage series. The Soundsmiths - Crisp Clear Detailed in Bombay is their only Indian dealer.
 
@GeorgeO

Let's not confuse "samcruise" and "mands" with upgrades.
After they are done with setting their HTs, their respective spouses are going to confiscate their cheque books, credit cards and freeze their bank accounts and put them on daily cash allowance only :)

Cheers,
Raghu
 
Hi guys, last couple of weeks has been pretty hectic with demos and window shopping different brand speakers. I have a question and would highly appreciate the inputs of you all.

I am looking for a 7.1.4 or 7.2.4 setup. How important are the surround and atmos speakers. To make myself clear, is it ok if i go with B&W LCRs and Polk FXI6 for surrounds and Polk RC80I for the atmos in ceiling speakers? Any suggestions if surrounds and atmos speakers need to be high end as well?

Thank you :)
 
Sam,
Good to hear that your project is in demo/audition mode.
Window shopping to a certain extant is fine. Don't get carried away; there are too many choices to be spoiled with :)
The surrounds and height speakers come alive only when the movie soundtrack has material in these channels.
If skimping budget wise, this is an area where some compromise is acceptable.

Regarding B&W L/C/R, if considering 600/CM series, please elicit owner opinions on matching amps/AVRs.
Some folks feel that the Kevlar cone material is a little more difficult to drive as compared to other materials, thus having to up the amp power.
There are a few folks on the forum who have had experience with these speakers. Search the forum and you may find some answers.
If not, a thread with just B&W <series> queries may elicit a better response.

What about the sub(s)? These play a very important role in HT.

Cheers,
Raghu
 
raghupb said:
Sam,
Good to hear that your project is in demo/audition mode.
Window shopping to a certain extant is fine. Don't get carried away; there are too many choices to be spoiled with :)
The surrounds and height speakers come alive only when the movie soundtrack has material in these channels.
If skimping budget wise, this is an area where some compromise is acceptable.

Regarding B&W L/C/R, if considering 600/CM series, please elicit owner opinions on matching amps/AVRs.
Some folks feel that the Kevlar cone material is a little more difficult to drive as compared to other materials, thus having to up the amp power.
There are a few folks on the forum who have had experience with these speakers. Search the forum and you may find some answers.
If not, a thread with just B&W <series> queries may elicit a better response.

What about the sub(s)? These play a very important role in HT.

Cheers,
Raghu
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You are right, the more options i see the more confused it gets :).
Regarding powering up b&w, i am looking at marantz 7010 for the receiver. Would that be good enough?
 
Hi guys...finally i am ready to start the work this month. I just want to make sure i am correct before the work is started. I will list out what i am planning to do according to what i understood so far, please let me know if i am on the right track.

WALLS:

1) I would build 2ft*4ft or 2ft*2ft panels with 18mm ply on all the 4 walls.
2) I would fill the panels with 50mm thick, 1000gsm synth wool.
3) Now i would spot the reflection points with the mirror method and place wood wool boards of 15mm thickness 2ft either side of the reflection point(i.e, total 4ft at each reflection point) and from floor to ceiling.
4) The other areas where i don't place the wood wool boards i would place a 6mm or 9mm ply on top of the synth wool providing a gap of about 1inch between them.
5) 10mm or 12mm PU foam on top of these
6) Fabric gripper system and then finish with fabric.

CEILING:

Use anutone or similar acoustic boards throughout or use ply to make panels, fill with synthwool and cover with fabric (please suggest which is better)

FLOORING:

Laminate is what i am planning for flooring with a decent size carpet for the first reflection point on the floor.

Please let me know if what i mentioned above is a good way forward or if any changes to any particular point is needed. Thank you :)

Note: I am looking for inwall LCR's behind the screen, so mostly would go with the baffle wall behind the screen.
 
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Sam

Anutone recommended panels around 30-36 inches clear of floor, and not running all the way to top of the ceiling. You may want to revisit this issue.
 
Denon X7200 has recently released a unified speaker placement approach for Atmos /DTS X and Auro 3D speaker placement. With that you can make 7.1.4 speaker palcment common for all the above audio formats .You don't require ceiling speakers for atmos .Only the 4 height speakers kept above the fronts and rear surround is enough.You can check out that .I think it will be simplified system for you.Check this link for more info.

http://www.denon.com/DtsxUpdate/DTS...X Update Insertion De 8003_ENG_AVRX7200WA.pdf

https://www.audioholics.com/editorials/dts-x-listening-evaluation
 
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