Indian Regional Cinema

@venkatcr/sri -Agree with your thoughts about the "nomenclature". I am not offended as much as frustrated/saddened when folks use it out of ignorance rather than stop/think/analyse and use the right terms.

It is definitely 'regional cinema'. Try playing a bengali movie in Uttar Pradesh. Languages apart from hindi do well only in a few regions where cinema is concerned apart from a few exceptions. Even a Rajini film isn't that huge in North India. Robot lost out to a bollywood romcom in collections in North India for instance.

This does not mean other languages are not languages of India. I see no correlation between the two.
 
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I am not sure this is done out of ignorance. Yesterday I was watching a popular Hindi TV show where they had got a pair of dancers from various parts of the country. A young pair had come from down south. Obviously this person had no idea of Hindi. Some idiot had taught a few incorrect Hindi words to the couple. The compere, Mithun Chakravorty, and few others were making this poor guy repeat the incorrect words and having big laugh.

I have seen Mehmood's ridiculing of Tamil and the Tamilian culture in various movies. I thought with passage of time and with closer interaction between people this will change, but no. Even today the cliches and the terrible humour ridiculing culture and language you do not understand continues in Hindi cinema. This has now moved on to TV shows.

No offense to anyone, but let us be civil and nice to each other at least in HFV. I do not understand many Indian languages. But when I travel to these parts I am very careful of how I speak and what I do.

Cheers

I saw two channels doing exactly this - making fun of South Indians. It was quite pathetic.
 
It is definitely 'regional cinema'. Try playing a bengali movie in Uttar Pradesh. Languages apart from hindi do well only in a few regions where cinema is concerned apart from a few exceptions. Even a Rajini film isn't that huge in North India. Robot lost out to a bollywood romcom in collections in North India for instance.

This does not mean other languages are not languages of India. I see no correlation between the two.

In the same logic many Hindi movies do not run successfully in South India, (most of them are not even released), so even Hindi cinema can be called "regional cinema". Mind you it is not my logic.

However IMO all are Indian languages and when it comes to movies, I see movies of all languages.
 
The usual mainstream ones are very much released and do fine in South India.

Even movies of big stars like Saif/Salman/Hrithik/Aamir/Sharukh are not released all over the states. They are mostly released in selected cities, like any other language movies being released in other states.

Anyway, I am not here to change any of your interpretation or definition, its just my opinion on the term regional cinema. I still stand by the view that, all are Indian movies in different Indian languages, and there is nothing called regional cinema. And once again, I love to see movies in all Indian languages.

And I would like to stop this discussion here and not hijack the thread, so that you can collect the information you intend to collect.
 
Hi Pratters,

I think you should find a better way of keeping people's interest in your thread and make them come out with the movie names, instead of raising the hackles of a few here.Yes Hindi movies enjoy a bigger market than the non hindi movies.But non hindi movies stopped being 'regional' movies long back.Take for instance the Tamil movies.There are a big fan following for Rajini even in Japan.Tamil movies are being screened in a lot of countries now.In an earlier market a tamil film like Robot was unthinkable.In those days movies and song tunes were lifted straight off hindi movies.Now its the other way around.

I will give you an example of the reach of tamil movies.Watch this video by some westeners.They are singing a tamil movie song with gusto.I am unable to write about the other non hindi movies simply because of my lack of knowledge about their reach.

YouTube - Ballelakka

Coool!!!

cheers,
sri
 
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Satyajit Ray films are famous all over the world. However Bengali cinema remains regional. Rajini is a phenomena. Any ways, as you rightly say, we should focus on the purpose of discovering more Indian films than any thing else. Let's end this debate here as it isn't very productive.

One of the best films of recent times is the marathi film Gabhricha Paus (The Damned Rain). It was the first Indian film of recent times which dealt with the subject of farmer suicides. It is quite superb. I am very interested in Marathi cinema as a matter of fact. There is a great tradition of theater and I would love to watch more. I watched a film in the Kolkata film festival a few years back. It was also pretty good.
 
Don't know if this movie is on DVD. But director Mahendran's tamil movie 'Uthiri Pookal' still remains a fantastic watch.With as little dialogues as possible this movie made a big impact on me when i first watched as a teenager.
The now Late actor Vijayan gave a fine performance as a perv.Director Mahendran let his mind wander into lot of things other than cinema and fizzled out prematurely.Otherwise we would have got some more gems like 'Mullum Malarum' from him.

cheers,
sri
 
Satyajit Ray films are famous all over the world. However Bengali cinema remains regional. Rajini is a phenomena. Any ways, as you rightly say, we should focus on the purpose of discovering more Indian films than any thing else. Let's end this debate here as it isn't very productive.

One of the best films of recent times is the marathi film Gabhricha Paus (The Damned Rain). It was the first Indian film of recent times which dealt with the subject of farmer suicides. It is quite superb. I am very interested in Marathi cinema as a matter of fact. There is a great tradition of theater and I would love to watch more. I watched a film in the Kolkata film festival a few years back. It was also pretty good.

It is very good movie.
I would suggest you to watch another Marathi movie Natrang, it is based on local folk dance (Tamasha). it is brilliant.
 
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Yeah, I mentioned that I am really looking forward to watching Natrang when I get the chance. Have heard great things about it...
 
The sardarji jokes are done in good humour.

This is going offtopic, but not really. It is only good humour because most sardars and sardarnis take it in good humour. Most sardar jokes are about sardars being dumb or having more brawn than brain. In a younger age group, kids often make fun of sardar kids and their judis and pagdis.

How is this good humour?

Of course, it is a different matter that "madrasis" are also made fun of by sardars and by other "north indians".

We're just a bunch of tribals who happened to get united into a country. Any behaviour or ritual or physical characteristic that is not familiar to us (our "tribe") is immediately ridiculed and trashed.

Again, sorry for being offtopic. I'll shut up now.
 
This is going offtopic, but not really. It is only good humour because most sardars and sardarnis take it in good humour. Most sardar jokes are about sardars being dumb or having more brawn than brain. In a younger age group, kids often make fun of sardar kids and their judis and pagdis.

How is this good humour?

Of course, it is a different matter that "madrasis" are also made fun of by sardars and by other "north indians".

We're just a bunch of tribals who happened to get united into a country. Any behaviour or ritual or physical characteristic that is not familiar to us (our "tribe") is immediately ridiculed and trashed.

Again, sorry for being offtopic. I'll shut up now.

It happens in all parts of the world. The people who take offense are the ones who are insecure about themselves. Making fun is a universal phenomenon, and taking offense is an individual thing.

sorry Pratters for going off-topic twice
 
It happens in all parts of the world. The people who take offense are the ones who are insecure about themselves. Making fun is a universal phenomenon, and taking offense is an individual thing.

I am going to go off-topic for the third time.

Making fun of someone or a group of people is a universal phenomenon. Agreed. But that does not make it right. Just as you say that the people who are being ridiculed are the ones who are insecure, I can also say that the ones who are ridiculing others are the ones who are feeling inferior. In any human interaction, there is always a power play, and the easiest way to getting to the 'top' is by putting down the other set/person. When you cannot understand something or learn something, just make fun of the issue. What do you achieve? Maybe nothing much in the long run, but I can certainly walk feeling giddy for the moment. And if done regularly, maybe the other guy will start questioning himself.

I am not sure how the Sikhs have taken it for so long. Some of my best friends have been Sikhs, and they are hard working, wonderful, and fun loving people. I have never seen such enterprising people anywhere in the world. Though I may never understand their culture, that did not stop me from learning their language, sharing their eating habits, and mixing with them as one of their own. I have attended their marriages, and been with Sikh friends when there have been some bereavement in their family.

Whenever I see a person from the above the Vindhyas speaking low of something they do not understand, I find it sick, demeaning, offensive, and really worth getting into a fight for. Frankly it just shows the lack of intelligence, maturity, and culture.

I always say something to people who make fun of others. Put yourself in the others person's shoe and see how you will feel before you open your mouth.

Enough said.

Cheers
 
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I find the term 'regional' for Tamil films a little offensive.

I am not sure why it would be offensive. It does not say anything about quality of the movie.

If we look at collections of a Tamil movie, what does distribution of revenue would look like (Over 35 states and UTs)?

If it is:

State 1: 60%
State 2: 20%
State 3: 10%

And 10% from rest of India

Then saying it regional would not be wrong.

Of course, this does not say about "Quality". Like any other language, there would be excellent and pathetic (and everything in-between) movies in this language too.
 
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