Hey! Since C9 sales are definitely gonna pick up this month, it'll be nice to have a single group to discuss settings and personal findings.
Kindly avoid price talks as there's another thread for that, and it's best to have information segregated and collected at one spot. Otherwise this thread will also become a second price talk thread.
So for SDR settings, I'm using ISF expert dark and bright room presets with custom settings. I have configured everything to be same except for OLED light. There was black crush in my panel ootb, and I have raised brightness to 54 for now. Contrast I have reduced to 80, as that disables ABL. Gamma is 2.4, which is the same as BT1886 on OLEDs.
For DV, I have set up Cinema and Cinema home. In Cinema, I changed brightness to 52 to counter black crush. In Cinema Home, I have reduced brightness to 46 to bring back the elevated blacks. I have reduced peak brightness to Medium, as I feel HDR is plenty bright even at those settings in my viewing conditions. Cinema Home also has AI brightness, so I'm going to test keeping only that in future after making it look closer to Cinema in a dark room. AI brightness is supposed to take ambient light into account and change brightness accordingly. I don't like switching modes so this appeals to me.
For HDR 10, I'm only using Technicolor expert with AI Brightness turned on. Haven't changed brightness in it, but I will if I notice any black crush. Peak brightness again at Medium.
White balance is at Warm2 in all. Seems alright. Movies are warmer in Cinema too. Although, I would personally take something between Warm1 and Warm2, but since it's been a couple of days, I'm used to Warm2 now. Eyes adjust. AI picture is off for all.
For motion, I am now using Trumotion at De-judder 3 and de-blur 0. It seems to resemble the Clear setting now. This makes the objects in 24fps panning shots move with smoother bumps, instead of clear chops/stutters that happen with Trumotion off and Real Cinema on, which makes 24 fps play as they would natively on the panel with 5:5 pulldown. Soap opera effect starts happening at 4 and above for me. Smooth setting or De-judder 10 makes these panning objects not jump at all, but flows like butter by adding frames to make the content 60fps. So the smoother bumps/stutters in motion of these objects show that the content is not completely interpolated. The frames being added simply reducing the choppiness.
Although, it has taken me some time to adjust to the clarity and the motion. Even with TM off, C9 seems to be natively a lot smoother than the Metz OLED I had for a short while. I tested mutiple times to see if this added clarity and smoothness is SOE, but it's present even when Trumotion is off. Now that I have adjusted, it seems lovely. Really smooth motion without soap opera effect. Haven't noticed any artifacts as of yet in real content. On the Metz OLED, the motion gave me headaches and eye strain.
Coming to sound, I'm was slightly disappointed. The Metz one was louder and clearer even at low volume settings. Maybe it were the front firing speakers that helped. I have had to tinker a lot with C9's settings to get good room fill and presence, and even then, I have to raise volume to 50-60 for anything other than music. Take the soundbar offer if you're in a medium to big room; mine is placed in a small bedroom.
So my settings for the sound are AI Sound turned on and acoustic room tuning to Bass Boost. Dolby Atmos and DA Surround were pretty disappointing. Auto volume adjust also results in weird volume drops. Better keep it off.
Uniformity was decent. I'll check again after a week or so. Not noticing anything in content watching. Infact, pictures show it to be a lot worse than in person.
Pixel Shift is off, as I'm not watching anything with logos. Logo luminance is at default setting of low.
Edit:
So I just noticed some artifacting. Helicopter blades against bright skies can cause some artifacts. Spotted it in one shot of Nelly Furtado's Say It Right video. Went to Triple Frontier's helicopter scene. Again, it happened in 1 out of the 3 shots. Not too bad. I remember reading that in fast motion scenes TVs stop interpolation, but seems like this doesn't qualify or C9 is doing it even in fast scenes. Need to test more with action movies. For now, I'll take the smoother motion over this minor artifacting. Reduce De-judder to 2 or even 1 if it bothers you.
Kindly avoid price talks as there's another thread for that, and it's best to have information segregated and collected at one spot. Otherwise this thread will also become a second price talk thread.
So for SDR settings, I'm using ISF expert dark and bright room presets with custom settings. I have configured everything to be same except for OLED light. There was black crush in my panel ootb, and I have raised brightness to 54 for now. Contrast I have reduced to 80, as that disables ABL. Gamma is 2.4, which is the same as BT1886 on OLEDs.
For DV, I have set up Cinema and Cinema home. In Cinema, I changed brightness to 52 to counter black crush. In Cinema Home, I have reduced brightness to 46 to bring back the elevated blacks. I have reduced peak brightness to Medium, as I feel HDR is plenty bright even at those settings in my viewing conditions. Cinema Home also has AI brightness, so I'm going to test keeping only that in future after making it look closer to Cinema in a dark room. AI brightness is supposed to take ambient light into account and change brightness accordingly. I don't like switching modes so this appeals to me.
For HDR 10, I'm only using Technicolor expert with AI Brightness turned on. Haven't changed brightness in it, but I will if I notice any black crush. Peak brightness again at Medium.
White balance is at Warm2 in all. Seems alright. Movies are warmer in Cinema too. Although, I would personally take something between Warm1 and Warm2, but since it's been a couple of days, I'm used to Warm2 now. Eyes adjust. AI picture is off for all.
For motion, I am now using Trumotion at De-judder 3 and de-blur 0. It seems to resemble the Clear setting now. This makes the objects in 24fps panning shots move with smoother bumps, instead of clear chops/stutters that happen with Trumotion off and Real Cinema on, which makes 24 fps play as they would natively on the panel with 5:5 pulldown. Soap opera effect starts happening at 4 and above for me. Smooth setting or De-judder 10 makes these panning objects not jump at all, but flows like butter by adding frames to make the content 60fps. So the smoother bumps/stutters in motion of these objects show that the content is not completely interpolated. The frames being added simply reducing the choppiness.
Although, it has taken me some time to adjust to the clarity and the motion. Even with TM off, C9 seems to be natively a lot smoother than the Metz OLED I had for a short while. I tested mutiple times to see if this added clarity and smoothness is SOE, but it's present even when Trumotion is off. Now that I have adjusted, it seems lovely. Really smooth motion without soap opera effect. Haven't noticed any artifacts as of yet in real content. On the Metz OLED, the motion gave me headaches and eye strain.
Coming to sound, I'm was slightly disappointed. The Metz one was louder and clearer even at low volume settings. Maybe it were the front firing speakers that helped. I have had to tinker a lot with C9's settings to get good room fill and presence, and even then, I have to raise volume to 50-60 for anything other than music. Take the soundbar offer if you're in a medium to big room; mine is placed in a small bedroom.
So my settings for the sound are AI Sound turned on and acoustic room tuning to Bass Boost. Dolby Atmos and DA Surround were pretty disappointing. Auto volume adjust also results in weird volume drops. Better keep it off.
Uniformity was decent. I'll check again after a week or so. Not noticing anything in content watching. Infact, pictures show it to be a lot worse than in person.
Pixel Shift is off, as I'm not watching anything with logos. Logo luminance is at default setting of low.
Edit:
So I just noticed some artifacting. Helicopter blades against bright skies can cause some artifacts. Spotted it in one shot of Nelly Furtado's Say It Right video. Went to Triple Frontier's helicopter scene. Again, it happened in 1 out of the 3 shots. Not too bad. I remember reading that in fast motion scenes TVs stop interpolation, but seems like this doesn't qualify or C9 is doing it even in fast scenes. Need to test more with action movies. For now, I'll take the smoother motion over this minor artifacting. Reduce De-judder to 2 or even 1 if it bothers you.
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