Mogami 2804....As speaker cable

[ishmeet73]

Has anyone used Mogami 2804 as a speaker cable?

I am presently using Mogami 3082 (2.5 mtr Pair) as my speaker cables. I want to know the difference
between the two.

On the Mogami website it is said " Despite a very small overall diameter 2804 delivers marvellous
resolution and rich detail. It's main application is for making short speaker cables when a power
amplifier is placed close to a speaker,in separate pre/power amplifier configurations."

 

[Nikhil]

Mogami 2804 is a very good cable and is very highly regarded. Delivers tremendous clarity and detail IMO.

The Mogami 3082 is also a coaxial design cable that is designed to provide a large conductor (~14 AWG) as per specs.
In terms of sound you may end up getting a better low end with this cable but may not have the resolution as the 2804.

Should be interesting to hear what you observe when you have them both in your setup.



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[balavignesh002]

Has anyone used Mogami 2804 as a speaker cable?

I am presently using Mogami 3082 (2.5 mtr Pair) as my speaker cables. I want to know the difference
between the two.

On the Mogami website it is said " Despite a very small overall diameter 2804 delivers marvellous
resolution and rich detail. It's main application is for making short speaker cables when a power
amplifier is placed close to a speaker,in separate pre/power amplifier configurations."

I have used both the cables. 2804 are very good at mid and highs. On the bass notes it's very controlled and fast.

3082 doesn't have the rich finnish on highs what 2804 deliver, will give decent performance.

If your speakers are bi-wiring capable use both.

 

[global rhythms]

Is Mogami 2804 superior to 3104 & 3103 as indicative of the pricing? The higher model numbers are confusing me.

 

[reignofchaos]

Is Mogami 2804 superior to 3104 & 3103 as indicative of the pricing? The higher model numbers are confusing me.

I have all of them - 2804, 3104, 3103 and also 2477. The 3104 is the most balanced of the lot.

I biwire my Tannoys with 3104 and 3103.

 

[CKumar]

I have all of them - 2804, 3104, 3103 and also 2477. The 3104 is the most balanced of the lot.

I biwire my Tannoys with 3104 and 3103.

How is 2477 w.r.t to others? Where/what it misses from others?

 

[panditji]

I have all of them - 2804, 3104, 3103 and also 2477. The 3104 is the most balanced of the lot.

I biwire my Tannoys with 3104 and 3103.

What is your impression of the 2804 with the Tannoys sir? Have been using the 3103s since the last 6-7 years with my Turnberrys and have always wondered what the 2804 would bring to the table compared to the 3103

 

[reignofchaos]

What is your impression of the 2804 with the Tannoys sir? Have been using the 3103s since the last 6-7 years with my Turnberrys and have always wondered what the 2804 would bring to the table compared to the 3103

It sounds a little bright. Not a great match even with tube amplifiers. 2477 is better and i feel 3104 is the best. Ideal situation is to biwire with dual 3104. However since I only have 3103 as the second pair, I have biwired using that.

 

[reignofchaos]

How is 2477 w.r.t to others? Where/what it misses from others?

2477 is decently balanced but misses out on the ultimate dynamic impact compared to 3104. It definitely has more resolution than 3104. 2477 is basically the same construction as 2804 at 12 ga.

 

[CKumar]

Ideal situation is to biwire with dual 3104

Which interconnects being used in your case at different stages?

 

[reignofchaos]

Which interconnects being used in your case at different stages?

Mogami gold in both pre to power and source to pre.

 

[ishmeet73]

I have been on a quest to find the perfect speaker cables for my speakers.

Initially for about 2 years I was using the Mogami 3104 with my SVS Ultra towers. They were a perfect pairing for them. I also got the Mogami 3082, just to do a comparison. However, I still liked the 3104 for my SVS speakers.

I was fortunate to get a pair of Dynaudio SP40 on loan to audition with my system. I wrote a post about my experience in a post https://www.hifivision.com/threads/...ound-mogami-3104-vs-3082….97243/#post-1071569
With the Dyanaudio SP 40, the Mogami 3104 did not sound good at all. The speakers sounded dull, the sound stage collapsed. But when I connected the Mogami 3082, there was a transformation on the sound. It was like the speakers came to life. The mid range started to shine, the sound stage increased and depth increased.

In November 2024, I changed my speakers to the Dali Epicon 2. I am hunting for the Mid Range magic and sweetness. I tried out both the Mogami 3104 and the Mogami 3082 speaker cables. The results were the same as that seen with the Dynaudio SP 40. At present I am using Mogami 3082 as my speaker cables in my system.

I came across other Forum Members, @Yelamanchili manohar ,@balavignesh002 and @muralimmreddy who have graciously guided and helped and guide me in this quest to find the best matching speaker cables for my system.

@balavignesh002 had posted about solid copper wire as speaker cables, https://www.hifivision.com/threads/solid-copper-14-awg-cable.97355/
based on this I ordered 12 AWG solid copper wire from Xangsane.

I have received these wires recently, terminating them was a real chore. I am presently burning them in (Sorry to the detractors of Burning In process) I do believe in it. Hopefully I will test them out in my system next Sunday. So the comparison will be between Mogami 3082 and 12 AWG solid copper wire.


I have also bought some 12TC cable (Helix Design) from GR Research, however the cable is lying in San Francisco. So till I don't get my hand on this cable, I can't comment on that as yet. Hopefully it is soon.

My conclusion so far, speaker cables have their own sound signature and presentation. It is about matching the correct speaker cable for the sound signature that you are looking for. That said, it is a combination of the sound of your speaker and the cable together. Yes the amplifier also matters, but certain speaker cable do well with certain speakers and some don't. THIS IS SUBJECTIVE TO YOUR TASTES.

 

[global rhythms]

So, yet again, the saying stands true with cables too - One must take a chance. You won't know unless you try it in your chain.

 

[ishmeet73]

I have all of them - 2804, 3104, 3103 and also 2477. The 3104 is the most balanced of the lot.

I biwire my Tannoys with 3104 and 3103.

How do you find the presentation of the 2804? Have you ever compared it to the 3082?

 

[reignofchaos]

As I mentioned earlier, 2804 is a bit bright in my setup. I prefer the others. Never tried 3082. It's a basic cable.

 

[hifimaddy]

I have posted something similar in the thread before.

Thread 'Mogami / Canare speaker cables'

Feb 20, 2024

hi FM's
This is just a general question. Just to understand myself,. I am using Mogami 3103 for my stereo use, and I am very happy with it. I was just wondering if Canare 4S11 or Mogami 3082 would be much better than 3103? anybody using 4s11 or 3082? How is it performing? Your feedback will be much appreciated. or any other cables in this price range and quality.

• hifimaddy
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If your speakers support bi-wiring, then go with the combination of coaxial cable and speaker cable like 3103 or 3104. If you don't have a biwiring setup, then go with 3104; they are really good for the price range. I have used it for some time.

 

[CKumar]

I have been using 3082, 2477 and wanted to check opinions before I post anything.
As somebody said earlier, it's all about synergy. May be , my glass of whiskey is poison for somebody.
2477 works very good with my first setup (Soekris + Rega + o&b+ Evo), but okies with Tannoy XT mini.
3082 works good in both setup. 3082 focus is more on vocal and mids.

 

[ishmeet73]

As I mentioned earlier, 2804 is a bit bright in my setup. I prefer the others. Never tried 3082. It's a basic cable.

After a few days on my alternate system, I finally connected the Mogami 2804 to my main system. Surprise, surprise…….in my system the mid range and the bass got a lift. This result I never expected. I was all prepared for a lean midrange and bass.