Need For Additional Moderators for our Beloved Forum

[srinisundar]

It is not really clear why we need more mods.
Can we list a set of points which justifies the suggestion?
May be only then it will help to gain some momentum..

Why there should be clear... Are you happy the how the way the questions are asked by new members / whether they be guided to search the old ones / whether the new threads related to same questions asked were merged with old ones / whether the unnecessary thread created were deleted in time before entering into heated arguments / whether the people are banned properly for misconduct /

Out of 4 mods the story goes below:

Venkatcr : He has already taken full time assignment and he may not be able to dedicate time, but more we wish to participate him only in technical discussion and writing since his way of moderation is not liked by members around.

Madbulram : He is already busy with his assignment as told by him and could not spend much time

Georgeo : May be only one now active for full day. I dont know whether he is doing moderation but could see his lot of posts, so his presence is there all day.

Supermod : I believe he is only active and by posting the deals and deleting the thread banning the members promptly.

Why not add somebody to support supermod,,, so that forum will get lot of deals around and he can concentrate on that, it will be benificial for all.

So it presently looks like it was handled individually .

I request there should be an signature of MOD while doing moderation in the thread so people will aware moderation is active.

 

[venkatcr]

Venkatcr : but more we wish to participate him only in technical discussion and writing since his way of moderation is not liked by members around.

Et Tu, Srini? Then Fall Venkat!!!:lol:

Seriously folks, I have not seen any of the 'want moderators' discussions lead anywhere. All four of us Mods are looking at this thread.

I have said it before and I will say it again. We are all intelligent people. Most of what we do here is voluntary. Self Moderation is the best. Each and every one of you can act as a mod by starting to help us by reporting a thread/post. I hardly see three or four Reported Posts/Thread a month. This gives me the feeling that you are saying, 'I will be bad, and it is your duty to Police me in a nice and friendly manner', and, 'if you really Police me, I will scream and want you removed'.

Seriously, HFV is not a place for politics and favoritism. No one gets any power of 'bhav' here. As long as you follow the rules, it is all fine. If the rules are broken, we have to moderate whether you like our moderation or not. For me, the thanks and appreciation I get from many members is all the 'power' and 'bhav' I will ever want. And I have made many new friends.

I have seen many of the junior members behave when they have been warned a few times. Most of our troubles come from senior (or long term) members who are either belligerent, get into fights, are egoistic, or just sulk. I have seen a few people with excellent knowledge on Projectors, TVs, DTH, HTPC, etc. But most of the threads these people have participated in have ended in ego clashes, and a mod had to step in. Secondly, when you start being a mod, you have to be brand/model agnostic. If, as a mod, you keep saying buy only this, it becomes an issue.

In addition to people nominating others, I would like to see a few people offer themselves to be moderators and tell us what they can offer to HFV.

Cheers

 

[captrajesh]

Moderating a forum is more of an administrative function than a technical one & the man doing must have a sane & balanced head to do a fine job. For addressing posts that require technical knowledge, it is sufficient if he knows whom should it be thrown at. Moderating HFV, which has this many posts is definitely a full time job & I'm not sure how many of us have so much time. It may be a good idea to have a team of mods working in tandem in shifts for a specific period each day.

 

[captrajesh]

In addition to mods, we can also have knowledgeable members tagged ar domain experts who are expected to chip in with their inputs as & when required.

BTW, why is this thread not showing up on the home page?

 

[Kittu]

Definitely!!! I'd like to stress the value of moderator posts. With good, active moderators you have a steady stream of high quality posts from a credible source. One can't just be an enforcer of rules, you have to be a contributor as well. The tone of this forum is absolutely dictated by the tone of the moderation.

I am ending my post by voting for Santhosh and Bluu.

 

[denom]

Thanks Kittu,

Atleast you have done your bit, wonder why the others are still not doing so
What is the harm in doing so fellow members??? Why such negativity/bleak outlook???:sad:

 

[iaudio]

I too get the impression that our forum could do with more moderators. As many other members have suggested, a team of mods could do very well to ease the load and also to avoid creating hostility towards one particular person. Moderation tends to become a difficult and thankless job, especially when infractions and the like needed to be handed out.
The need for more mods need not be seen as to be for controlling the members, it is only to aid sorting the threads and posts, for eg, under the right sub sections.

 

[stevieboy]

Venkatcr : He has already taken full time assignment and he may not be able to dedicate time, but more we wish to participate him only in technical discussion and writing since his way of moderation is not liked by members around.

I may have had many runs in with Venkat on topics and issues of forum moderation in the past, but I have high respect for him. He's one guy who puts his heart into the forum and does a pretty good job of trying to sort stuff out.

While I've been vocal about issues, mostly in PM, it's also good to put appreciation on record, so here's to you Venkat :thumbsup:

 

[srinisundar]

I may have had many runs in with Venkat on topics and issues of forum moderation in the past, but I have high respect for him. He's one guy who puts his heart into the forum and does a pretty good job of trying to sort stuff out.

While I've been vocal about issues, mostly in PM, it's also good to put appreciation on record, so here's to you Venkat :thumbsup:

Thatz the spirit Stevieboy.. I love this :thumbsup:... But my feeling is while he is having an tag as moderator you cannot get juice out of him and the tag makes somebody(starter) to move out of him to question his technical write up or advice. Atlast if discussion heated up it will end up on questioning his moderation

 

[santhosh]

Not pessimistic at all Dave. We have seen N number of threads requesting for more mods and our members including myself have participated hoping for a +ve result. It would be good to know what supermod, Hifivision's view on this is. Otherwise, we can keep talking till the cows come home without knowing if our suggestions/requests are being considered. If this is not gonna happen, let us know now, so we don't waste our time.

About moderator being knowledgable etc...IMO, a moderator wears two hats - firstly that of a member and then that of a moderator. Most of the time, a moderator participates like a normal member contributing, asking questions and should be treated as such even in a heated technical discussion/argument. He wears the moderator's hat only when there is a need to.

Going by ^, I feel venkatcr is doing very well in both roles and acknowledge that - unlike Sachin Tendulkar who was unable to perform while he was a captain.

My two cents.

 

[GeorgeO]

As a member( not a moderator), I value Venkat's inputs most of the time-which is far more than I can say for the majority of contributors.

 

[vinay]

With Spirvious name proposed as a moderator, is not going to help much because whenever there is a heated debate and related he has no contribution in people handling.

Indeed the knowledge which Spirivious has is too good and contributes a lot at the forum, i always salute him for this.

With the other 2 moderators they too having no contribution when it comes to people handling and related, we can not afford a new third moderator on these lines. We need true moderators like Venkatcr.

I think the moderators who can not handle should resign and make way for others on a poll basis with conditions.

V.

The moderators do not have to be senior gurus or experts or even specialists. They need skills in fairly enforcing rules and in people handling. Technical skills, even on a technical forum, are completely incidental.

 

[vinay]

It is not true as you imagine about some senior/long term members.

In my and few other member's cases we have debated extensively and in the process if some of them start writing crap then we need to reply on their lines, so the unfounded writing do not apply to some of us about being belligerent, fights, egoistic, sulk etc.

V.

I have seen many of the junior members behave when they have been warned a few times. Most of our troubles come from senior (or long term) members who are either belligerent, get into fights, are egoistic, or just sulk. I have seen a few people with excellent knowledge on Projectors, TVs, DTH, HTPC, etc. But most of the threads these people have participated in have ended in ego clashes, and a mod had to step in.

 

[denom]

Hi Vinay,

Thanks for sharing your views. I request you to nominate your choice for the post of Mod

Unless we all nominate our choice, how are we going to take this further???

Requesting to all HFV members to nominate their choice.

Thanks

 

[denom]

Not pessimistic at all Dave. We have seen N number of threads requesting for more mods and our members including myself have participated hoping for a +ve result. It would be good to know what supermod, Hifivision's view on this is. Otherwise, we can keep talking till the cows come home without knowing if our suggestions/requests are being considered. If this is not gonna happen, let us know now, so we don't waste our time.

About moderator being knowledgable etc...IMO, a moderator wears two hats - firstly that of a member and then that of a moderator. Most of the time, a moderator participates like a normal member contributing, asking questions and should be treated as such even in a heated technical discussion/argument. He wears the moderator's hat only when there is a need to.

Going by ^, I feel venkatcr is doing very well in both roles and acknowledge that - unlike Sachin Tendulkar who was unable to perform while he was a captain.

My two cents.

Hey Santhosh,

My query was to all the other HFV members who have yet to nominate their choice for Mod.
The intention is to present the case of requiring more Mods strongly to Supermod, who has promised to take all our suggestions in this thread positively, proactively & urgently for the betterment of HFV. This to me is of utmost importance, as we all have been spectators to lots of 'unwanted drivel' being unnecessarily been allowed & not checked. We as forum members should therefore act to avoid such practices from continuing in the future. We collectively can achieve this so lets all work together for the betterment of our beloved forum.

 

[venkatcr]

if some of them start writing crap then we need to reply on their lines,

This is exactly what I am talking about. In an open forum, hundreds of guys will say what they want. As a senior member, I expect you and others to go only so far in pushing your points in a open discussion. Beyond that, just say your point with any reference or harsh words, and just back out. Remember, we are not fighting a war here. It is up to the members and others to read and understand what they want.

I have been discussing this point with SuperMod, and we are looking at the idea of inviting a number of senior members to write some technical and non-technical articles that will become permanent markers in our knowledge repository. These articles with be read by the mods, edited, if necessary and posted as articles. There will be no posts allowed in those threads. I am hoping to start that off myself with some technical articles. I invite others to contribute.

I fail to understand the reason for fighting, resentment, and any kinds of heated exchanges. Let us interact with a smile, and without getting personal on any issues. AV is a common love for all of us.

Cheers

 

[srinisundar]

Denom,

If somebody propose somebody, it is an practice to tell he is not suitable . Why cant we propose "Denom" and also you have good intention to run the forum in good way. Why cant you come forward to take the position "if members choose".

Earlier it is voluntary to work as 'Moderator", now it is become an push and pull situation. Should not forget "Bluu" has come forward voluntarily and for nothing else it went in another way.

My view is propose few names whom you found suitable + in the above post few name proposed by members in an poll and let us see how it goes.

Regards

 

[denom]

Hi Srini,

That is exactly what I am trying to say too. But for a poll to be arrived at we need some names to make it work, we do not want dictatorship now do we :indifferent14:
Yes Bluu is a good recommendation, thanks for nominating him
I have no issues making myself available BUT would like to see my name alongwith other popular nominations, which will then get us towards the much awaited poll.

Hope other members nominate their choices & do their bit

 

[santhosh]

Ok, two more nominations from me:

1) CaptRajesh
2) Denom

 

[srinisundar]

+1 to Santhosh + few below who I am seeing almost plenty of time in forum.. It is another important we should choose more mod's who will be active so nothin is escaping from their attention. Most of the guys are working in IT field they may have firewall in their office, so access may be limited. So more mod's more attention.

I prefere ThadE also for mod position, he is quiet active and open in all suggestions and he has moderated earlier.

ThadEGinathom :thumbsup:
Denom :thumbsup:
Capt.Rajesh :thumbsup:
Kittu :thumbsup:
Spriro :thumbsup:
Bluu :thumbsup:
blasto :thumbsup:


Enough for now..