Newer Models of 2017
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shaiju_o_thomas
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LG will be your best bet. Sony will be way over priced. Panasonic availability is a big question and the prices may not be as low as you may think. Philips may be cheaper but the picture optimisations may be better on LG. LG and Sony support Dolby Vision if you care about it.
B7 or C7 should really good. I briefly saw C7 and was impressed by the near black handling as compared to my E6. However, that will be an issue only on compressed sources. If you can get E6 at a good price then go for it as 2017 models will be pricey and they will keep dropping in value over the year.
B7 or C7 should really good. I briefly saw C7 and was impressed by the near black handling as compared to my E6. However, that will be an issue only on compressed sources. If you can get E6 at a good price then go for it as 2017 models will be pricey and they will keep dropping in value over the year.
I bought LG 43UJ752T 2017 model with Nano Cell Display and Dolby Vision. I thought 43inch would make a good monitor and Boi I was so wrong, but they dont make 32inch 4k with all major HDR Formats. Due to constant raining feeling lazy but will post a review later in few days. They have received Oled's as well and were installing them for Display.
shaiju_o_thomas
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B7 is listed on LG India site.
hi shaiju
how is your experience with the e6 wrt black crush & motion resolution. i had issues with these 2 facts when i demoed the b6 & felt it was lacking compared to my plasma.
also what differences if any did you find between your e6 & the c7 esp wrt to above 2 factors?
thanx
shaiju_o_thomas
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A lengthy post but glad you asked...
The first 2 generations of OLED had some major issues - motion, horrible near black handling, brightness and vignetting. That is why I waited for improvements in OLED technology (and hoping Samsung would join the party). 2016 OLEDs resolved most of the issues to a great extent.
E6 has very little black crush (not sure if that is the correct term) that you can minimise after adjustments. Motion resolution is just fine. I am hardly be affected by motion or judder issues. I watch a lot of movies; both blu-ray and streamed. They are really good, mostly jaw dropping. Let me know if you want to see some pictures from streamed content. I come from Samsung 64F8500 Plasma and do not miss it a bit.
B6 has a different SoC compared to a better one on E6 and higher. I did demos of B6 and E6 side by side. Sales guys said no difference apart from 3D and fancy sound bar on E6 but I could see clear difference. So I went with E6 which, to my eyes, was superior enough for the increased price. Later I read about the SoC difference and happy with decision to buy E6.
2017 are much better in near black handling and to lesser extent on brightness. I demoed C7 - very short one. Note that C7 panel is very reflective and could be distracting in well lit rooms. E7 will be better in that regard though I have not seen in person.
There will be macro blocking and noise on dark compressed sources. But if you want a cleaner picture then Sony is better. I did not demo Sony OLED but am aware of the smooth gradation feature that works wonders with compressed sources. But I think Sony OLED will cost a fortune
I would choose between E6 and E7. C7 requires a light controlled room. Motion remains same on 2016 and 2017 models except that B6 is a bit worse.
The first 2 generations of OLED had some major issues - motion, horrible near black handling, brightness and vignetting. That is why I waited for improvements in OLED technology (and hoping Samsung would join the party). 2016 OLEDs resolved most of the issues to a great extent.
E6 has very little black crush (not sure if that is the correct term) that you can minimise after adjustments. Motion resolution is just fine. I am hardly be affected by motion or judder issues. I watch a lot of movies; both blu-ray and streamed. They are really good, mostly jaw dropping. Let me know if you want to see some pictures from streamed content. I come from Samsung 64F8500 Plasma and do not miss it a bit.
B6 has a different SoC compared to a better one on E6 and higher. I did demos of B6 and E6 side by side. Sales guys said no difference apart from 3D and fancy sound bar on E6 but I could see clear difference. So I went with E6 which, to my eyes, was superior enough for the increased price. Later I read about the SoC difference and happy with decision to buy E6.
2017 are much better in near black handling and to lesser extent on brightness. I demoed C7 - very short one. Note that C7 panel is very reflective and could be distracting in well lit rooms. E7 will be better in that regard though I have not seen in person.
There will be macro blocking and noise on dark compressed sources. But if you want a cleaner picture then Sony is better. I did not demo Sony OLED but am aware of the smooth gradation feature that works wonders with compressed sources. But I think Sony OLED will cost a fortune
I would choose between E6 and E7. C7 requires a light controlled room. Motion remains same on 2016 and 2017 models except that B6 is a bit worse.
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longshanks
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E6 and B6 have their own advantage and disadvantages, E6 does have LG's in-house SOC which will get better updates but apart from 3D needing higher luminescence and the in-house SOC helping with that there is not much differences.
A good source for comparison.
Our Picture Quality Score and Tests: TVs
A good source for comparison.
Our Picture Quality Score and Tests: TVs
shaiju_o_thomas
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RTINGS is an okay site. I don't trust their scoring methodology. Their calibration settings are also decent.
@shaiju
thanks for your inputs
i had a decent demo of B6 but was put off by motion handling of sports like cricket. now some ppl have said that different ppl have diff sensitivities to motion so its difficult to judge from reviews. i found it not only juddery but it seemed like every time the camera panned quickly the image took some time to "settle". coming from smooth handling of a plasma (samsung e8000) it put me off.
heard 2017 models are better but lg's video processing has always been not great. sony is superior but am worried about the price.
also how was your panel in terms of banding, vignetting?
thanks for your inputs
i had a decent demo of B6 but was put off by motion handling of sports like cricket. now some ppl have said that different ppl have diff sensitivities to motion so its difficult to judge from reviews. i found it not only juddery but it seemed like every time the camera panned quickly the image took some time to "settle". coming from smooth handling of a plasma (samsung e8000) it put me off.
heard 2017 models are better but lg's video processing has always been not great. sony is superior but am worried about the price.
also how was your panel in terms of banding, vignetting?
shaiju_o_thomas
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The vertical bands on first panel set was very prominent. I got it replaced and the second one is better. Vertical bands is there but very faint and not visible in actual content.
The second panel is bit worse on vignetting on the left and has a dead pixel. I am chasing for a replacement as I not happy with the dead pixel on a month old TV.
The second panel is bit worse on vignetting on the left and has a dead pixel. I am chasing for a replacement as I not happy with the dead pixel on a month old TV.
longshanks
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Out of LG's OLED line up B6 has the better motion handling compared to others but i agree, i have a Samsung 64 F8500, and have seen the pioneer Kuro, Panasonic ZT60 and all have better motion and picture processing than any OLED i have seen.
Also i noticed in terms of color even if i set it up pretty low and set my OLED light to around 45 i still don't find it pleasing and easy on the eyes as my plasma, long hours strains my eyes which i have never experiences in my plasma.
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longshanks
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Any reason why you don't trust their scoring methodology? are they being sponsored by a specific brand or the equipment they use is not accurate?
HDTV test UK.
HDTV Test UK measurement of LG B6 and E6 - Album on Imgur
Again, moth have their advantages and disadvantages, like you said in one your post in this thread E6 does have banding issues but has a superior chip set compared to B6.
Will take another two years when companies like Panasonic start to master processing for OLED, a major change i expect when Samsung starts building OLED panels for TV.
Unni
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Hi how are Samsung 2017 models.I am interested in Curved + 65 inches .Can somebody tell me the difference between Q8c and Q7C ? Not available in Samsung site .Also I found the site less user friendly compared to the LG site (e.g. Side by side comparison of models ).
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
Sony a1 is available..its ultimate in oled z9 is best in led..if budget constraints prefer panasonic than samsung..lg is least to be considered , as its non reliable...sony i give 5 star , panasonic and samsung equal, just panasonic is not very userfriendly and no gimmicks..sony shines and envy ur neighbour in premium segment.
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