ghatgepatil
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60D with 18-55 is Rs.48495 delivered at home ..... flipkart!
Nikon and Canon DSLR - which is popular in India?
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Shivam
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I always suggest buying the most expensive lens that one can afford and then buying the cheapest and a comfortable body that can be used with that lens.
Oh! it was my overlook. I have picked up the Body+kit lens price as the body price. Thanks Ghatgepatil.
So, my package cost would be lower by around 4k or so.
I selected 60D for its tilt screen. After recent price cut, it is no more in a high cost band. Also, I have checked 60D in my hand and I felt comfortable with button locations, grip, weight etc. I also like the option of having video and the articulating screen. From reports the 60D is a great camera. Also, the 60D fits me like a glove so it all adds up to be the perfect first DSLR for me.
Now, can you suggest any VFM lens from Canon or third party?
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Amit
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Santy,
I don't have any hands on experience, to say first. But during last 7-8 days, I read various reviews extensively. I have zeroed down to three lenses in my wish list (removing the kit lens) :
EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS USM (too pricy but I will love to have, if I get it used / Grey Mkt)
EF-S 55-250 mm f/4-5.6 IS II (quite common and popular tele except wildlife requirement for further long range)
EF 50 mm f/1.4 (For portrait or flower's photo with blurred background with silky bokeh - I love bokeh, I stepped up from my earlier choice of f 1.8 to f 1.4 for better indoor or low light performance)
In Canon stable, the 35 mm f/1.4L prime cost is Rs.1.1L, which is simply beyond my budget, otherwise it is a fabulous choice. You are right Santy. But 35 mm f2 may be a choice which is around 24k, let me think and read again.
The total cost of these three lenses comes to about Rs. 1.3 L, which is almost three times of the cost of 60D body.
This is my wish list. If any FM have knowledge of above used Lenses in spotless good condition or availability in Grey market at Bangalore, Mumbai, Delhi, Kolkata, Chennai - it will be great help.
Regards
Amit
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Shivam
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Go for one lens initially and when you start using that lens, you will feel the need for something more. Sometimes a higher focal length, sometimes closer focusing. Buy your other lenses then depending on what you need.
I suggest that you buy only the 17-55mm initially. This is a sharp lens which has good bokeh quality. It is not slow and so you can use it in dim light too.
Another point to remember is that a 'zoom' lens is not a replacement for your movement with relation to your subject. You should move close and away from your subject as you would with a prime lens. 'Zoom' gives you an opportunity to experiment with perspective without changing your lens.
I suggest that you buy only the 17-55mm initially. This is a sharp lens which has good bokeh quality. It is not slow and so you can use it in dim light too.
Another point to remember is that a 'zoom' lens is not a replacement for your movement with relation to your subject. You should move close and away from your subject as you would with a prime lens. 'Zoom' gives you an opportunity to experiment with perspective without changing your lens.
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Today I have purchased the camera. But, my decision ultimately changed to Nikon D7100. After reading good review and driven by the advises of some friends to remain with Nikon, finally decided for D7100.
It comes in two set-ups : 1) with 18-105 lens and 2) with 16-85 lens. I opted for the later i.e. 16-85.
Tele lens and prime lens will come later.
Any suggestion for filters, tripod and higher capacity storage cards?
What do you suggest for Lens cleaning kit ?
It comes in two set-ups : 1) with 18-105 lens and 2) with 16-85 lens. I opted for the later i.e. 16-85.
Tele lens and prime lens will come later.
Any suggestion for filters, tripod and higher capacity storage cards?
What do you suggest for Lens cleaning kit ?
Shivam
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Congratulations.
I use Lenspen, a rocket blower bulb and a 3M microfiber cloth for outside cleaning.
For the filter in front of sensor, I use SensorSwabs with Eclipse and E2 liquid.
I use Lenspen, a rocket blower bulb and a 3M microfiber cloth for outside cleaning.
For the filter in front of sensor, I use SensorSwabs with Eclipse and E2 liquid.
Thanks Shivam. Is Hoya a good quality filter? I am thinking to purchase the digital filter kit of Hoya. I think the kit has three filters UV, ND-x and Circular Polariser.
Let me share the update -
Ultimately I have purchased Nikon D7100. Also purchased the following lenses:
Nikon 16-85 mm
Nikon 105 mm f 2.8 VR Micro
Tokina 11-16 mm f/2.8
Have plan to purchase a Nikon 50 mm f/1.8 D prime also
And at the last will purchase a Nikon 70-300 mm tele lens
Looking for a decent Tripod and ball head for shooting macro and night photography.
Ultimately I have purchased Nikon D7100. Also purchased the following lenses:
Nikon 16-85 mm
Nikon 105 mm f 2.8 VR Micro
Tokina 11-16 mm f/2.8
Have plan to purchase a Nikon 50 mm f/1.8 D prime also
And at the last will purchase a Nikon 70-300 mm tele lens
Looking for a decent Tripod and ball head for shooting macro and night photography.
srramanujam
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Tokina 11-16 will help you get some awesome landscapes when you are in Kashmir.
All the best with your photography.
All the best with your photography.
@AMITNOIDA
this is the tripod i am looking at.... Vanguard Alta Pro 263 AGH 100 - Vanguard: Flipkart.com
I am in talks with a person who has recently gotten into the business of Camera and equipment sales, he assures me of better prices!
this is the tripod i am looking at.... Vanguard Alta Pro 263 AGH 100 - Vanguard: Flipkart.com
I am in talks with a person who has recently gotten into the business of Camera and equipment sales, he assures me of better prices!
Thanks Ramanujam and Manav.
Yes Tokina 11-16 mm is a great lens, very sharp in 11-13 mm range and even portraits also give very unique perspective. I love it.
Manav, I am doing my search among the brands Benro, Manfrotto, Vanguard.
Benro C2580
Manfrotto 055CxPro4
Vanguard Alta Pro 283CT (or 284)
All of the three models are made of Carbon fibre tubes and less than 2 kg weight. Specially interested for Vanguard model due to its unique feature of fixing the Center column at any angle from 0 to 180 degree, which comes very useful for macro photography.
Is the person in Delhi/NCR? Like to see the model before purchase. I am in hurry, as my macro lens is lying idle due to absence of my tripod.
But before purchase, I want to see the model
Yes Tokina 11-16 mm is a great lens, very sharp in 11-13 mm range and even portraits also give very unique perspective. I love it.
Manav, I am doing my search among the brands Benro, Manfrotto, Vanguard.
Benro C2580
Manfrotto 055CxPro4
Vanguard Alta Pro 283CT (or 284)
All of the three models are made of Carbon fibre tubes and less than 2 kg weight. Specially interested for Vanguard model due to its unique feature of fixing the Center column at any angle from 0 to 180 degree, which comes very useful for macro photography.
Is the person in Delhi/NCR? Like to see the model before purchase. I am in hurry, as my macro lens is lying idle due to absence of my tripod.
But before purchase, I want to see the model
just4kix
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Nikon and Canon both make wonderful cameras and lenses. It is a constant debate on which is better. But my take is this....
It is only us, ordinary amateurs, who worry and debate on equipment and stuff. Serious photographers worry about the moment and being there at the right time. I have seen wonderful photographs taken from simple point and shoot cameras - ok, not very ordinary ones bit good ones like Lieca.
It is only us, ordinary amateurs, who worry and debate on equipment and stuff. Serious photographers worry about the moment and being there at the right time. I have seen wonderful photographs taken from simple point and shoot cameras - ok, not very ordinary ones bit good ones like Lieca.
In my experience (and thus opinion), long focal length lenses are much better for capturing mountains and land features.
In wide angles all the land features are rendered so small that they fail to make impact ...
manzb
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Looking to buy two DSLRs, one very soon for my sister and another one may be 1 or 2 months later, for myself. Shortlisted cameras are
1. Nikon D5200- latest launch with lot of new features compared to 5100 or 3200 -price 40K with 18-55 lens, and 50K with 18-105 lens
2. Nikon D3200- Price 30K with 18-55 lens & Price is 39K with 18-105 lens
3. Canon 1100D-Price 27K with 18-55 plus 55-250 (twin lens kit)
4. Canon 600D-Price 30K with 18-55
I don't think budget can extend beyond 40K. Ideally lesser is better (specially the one for myself).
That way, 1100D is a steal with 2 kit lenses at 27K.
The users are all newbie & never handled DSLRs/ SLRs previously, so falls in learner category. One of my friend has the 1100D and I have liked his PQ. But I think on the net, based on various reviews, 5200 is highly recommended. But with the ideal lens of 18-105 it is quite pricey at 50K.
Now there is another twist to that tale. Lots of people are nowadays are also going for Mirror-less cameras as they are less bulky and gives quite good PQ. But it is kind of evolving tech and yet to reach an stage where it can give actually is any closer to give a fair competition to DSLRs, AFAIK. The best part is that it is sleek and easy to handle, unlike a DSLRs.
Guys need your inputs, so that it helps me to arrive at an informed decision.
1. Nikon D5200- latest launch with lot of new features compared to 5100 or 3200 -price 40K with 18-55 lens, and 50K with 18-105 lens
2. Nikon D3200- Price 30K with 18-55 lens & Price is 39K with 18-105 lens
3. Canon 1100D-Price 27K with 18-55 plus 55-250 (twin lens kit)
4. Canon 600D-Price 30K with 18-55
I don't think budget can extend beyond 40K. Ideally lesser is better (specially the one for myself).
That way, 1100D is a steal with 2 kit lenses at 27K.
The users are all newbie & never handled DSLRs/ SLRs previously, so falls in learner category. One of my friend has the 1100D and I have liked his PQ. But I think on the net, based on various reviews, 5200 is highly recommended. But with the ideal lens of 18-105 it is quite pricey at 50K.
Now there is another twist to that tale. Lots of people are nowadays are also going for Mirror-less cameras as they are less bulky and gives quite good PQ. But it is kind of evolving tech and yet to reach an stage where it can give actually is any closer to give a fair competition to DSLRs, AFAIK. The best part is that it is sleek and easy to handle, unlike a DSLRs.
Guys need your inputs, so that it helps me to arrive at an informed decision.
Hi all
Nice to see a good photographic enthusiasts group within our community. Another person who's opinion is valued is FM Ajay124. He is a excellent photographer and like me has been putting together his system for the last few years.
I moved from DSLR full frame cameras (Canon 5D and 5D Mark 2) to the mirrorless micro 4/3 system (Olympus OMD-EM-5) and have never regretted it. The portability of the system was the first reason as the DSLR with various lenses was very heavy and cumbersome (even when packed into my camera bag). But the image quality has won me over. There are some great small cameras nowdays worth trying. I have recently personally become a fan of fixed focal length cameras (Fuji x100 and Sony Rx-100) but these are not for everyone. I also use a Foveon sensor digital camera for some work, which perhaps may be considered a specialist camera - fabulous colours and details but a very limited and buggy piece of equipment.
Your choice of camera (and lenses of course) should be dictated by the type of photographs that you like to make. There is no need to pay for extra high frame rates (for example) if don't take much action photograph, for example. Nowdays unless you are professional (and even then) you can find many photography enthusiast cameras (some less and some more than DSLRs in price) that can make superb images and have all the functionality without the hassle of a full fledged commitment of looking after and growing a DSLR-based system. Buying good quality lenses are expensive too.
I spent the last month looking at tripods and eventually settled with Manfrotto 293 alu kit 3-section with ball head. I bought it from Discount Vu (and I don't recommend buying anything from them). The tripod had a faulty clip on one of the legs and Manfrotto took care of it directly (as there was no reply from Discount Vu). Manfrotto's customer service was exceptional. Kind , courteous and they replaced it with a new one in a couple of days. Be careful with tripod weights, you will be surprised that the tripods just over 2 kgs actually feel rather heavy and unless you intend to put some heavy duty tele lenses on the camera you are better off getting a slightly lighter one (but a good stable one) rather than a too heavy one, which can become a pain to walk around with. Vanguard also make good tripods.
Lastly, I recommend you spend a little time reading the articles and asking questions in the forums on Digital Photography Review. I have always found the members very friendly and helpful and there are many camera reviews to help you make your selection.
Nice to see a good photographic enthusiasts group within our community. Another person who's opinion is valued is FM Ajay124. He is a excellent photographer and like me has been putting together his system for the last few years.
I moved from DSLR full frame cameras (Canon 5D and 5D Mark 2) to the mirrorless micro 4/3 system (Olympus OMD-EM-5) and have never regretted it. The portability of the system was the first reason as the DSLR with various lenses was very heavy and cumbersome (even when packed into my camera bag). But the image quality has won me over. There are some great small cameras nowdays worth trying. I have recently personally become a fan of fixed focal length cameras (Fuji x100 and Sony Rx-100) but these are not for everyone. I also use a Foveon sensor digital camera for some work, which perhaps may be considered a specialist camera - fabulous colours and details but a very limited and buggy piece of equipment.
Your choice of camera (and lenses of course) should be dictated by the type of photographs that you like to make. There is no need to pay for extra high frame rates (for example) if don't take much action photograph, for example. Nowdays unless you are professional (and even then) you can find many photography enthusiast cameras (some less and some more than DSLRs in price) that can make superb images and have all the functionality without the hassle of a full fledged commitment of looking after and growing a DSLR-based system. Buying good quality lenses are expensive too.
I spent the last month looking at tripods and eventually settled with Manfrotto 293 alu kit 3-section with ball head. I bought it from Discount Vu (and I don't recommend buying anything from them). The tripod had a faulty clip on one of the legs and Manfrotto took care of it directly (as there was no reply from Discount Vu). Manfrotto's customer service was exceptional. Kind , courteous and they replaced it with a new one in a couple of days. Be careful with tripod weights, you will be surprised that the tripods just over 2 kgs actually feel rather heavy and unless you intend to put some heavy duty tele lenses on the camera you are better off getting a slightly lighter one (but a good stable one) rather than a too heavy one, which can become a pain to walk around with. Vanguard also make good tripods.
Lastly, I recommend you spend a little time reading the articles and asking questions in the forums on Digital Photography Review. I have always found the members very friendly and helpful and there are many camera reviews to help you make your selection.
I'd gone through multiple reviews of both brands, and overall came to the conclusion that both are equally good, when you compare the equivalent models from both. The only difference between the two in India, is that Canon retails at an MRP roughly 20% higher than its USD price, whereas Nikon retails at the MRP same as its USD price. This makes Nikon in India cheaper compared to its equivalent Canon model. Same holds true for lenses.
Both shoot pics with great quality, have great processors to process the image, and offer a wide gamut of functionality limited only by the amateur's desire to learn. And if you're a professional, you already know which brand you prefer
. So to an amateur like me, I say forget the brand wars, pick one that you like, and start shooting. Taking pics and learning will give you much more pleasure than worrying about which camera or lens to buy.
Both shoot pics with great quality, have great processors to process the image, and offer a wide gamut of functionality limited only by the amateur's desire to learn. And if you're a professional, you already know which brand you prefer
. So to an amateur like me, I say forget the brand wars, pick one that you like, and start shooting. Taking pics and learning will give you much more pleasure than worrying about which camera or lens to buy.Thanks Staxxx for sharing your views. You are very right about Ajay124, in fact he is the man behind my selection of Nikon D7100. I was going for Nikon D7000, but he suggested me to go for D7100.
I am absolutely novice and it is my first DSLR. Now, I am looking for a decent tripod. Nirmalya (JJ Mehta forum mate) has suggested me the Vanguard Alta Pro 283CT for me when we have last met at Bangalore. I have fascination for macro. Vanguard tripod center columns can be tilted at any degree and shall come in handy for shooting macro. It is 1.7 kg weight, not very low but I think may be manageable. Considering all the aspects, Nirmalya has suggested this tripod for me. Also, as I am fairly short height, this tripod even without extending the center column can give me comfortable opportunity of shooting with no strain on my back. Also due to its versatile positioning of Center column, it will help in taking the camera very low to take low level shots. Proper Tripod selection is more time consuming and cumbersome than even camera selection.
I have joined Flickr Nikon 7100 Group and the members are very helpful and active. Will check Dpreview forum also, as you suggested.
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