plasma or LED TV?
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I d race to differ in opinion but they'd call me a racist as I am all praise of the beauty of blacks in plasma 
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rendering and all me thinks.. LED is still lagging only by a micro step... at the same time Plasma has its on drawback added.. there are discussions that prove otherwise in this matter ofcourse.. but check out the afford ability too.. for me a Samsung E550D was a totally reachable target in comparison to a 1.5 L LED
.. rendering and all me thinks.. LED is still lagging only by a micro step... at the same time Plasma has its on drawback added.. there are discussions that prove otherwise in this matter ofcourse.. but check out the afford ability too.. for me a Samsung E550D was a totally reachable target in comparison to a 1.5 L LED
Loads of posts on the same topic............but in short rud3dawg is totally bang on target!!! For the same price Plasma will give you better overall picture. And yes Plasma always has been reference when it comes to TVs, so LED/LCD always strive to match plasma level picture quality. I would have to agree the gap is getting narrow with top LED tv's now getting closer than ever to plasma technology.
avmaxfan
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Unless your budget is unlimited, a Plasma set will have better PQ than a LED based set. Of course if you dislike Plasma or if some of Plasma technology weaknesses are not acceptable to you then LED will be preferable.
prosenjit
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plasma cleaer winner.if can afford top notch plasmas like st or higher....you wont like anything else.under 60k plasmas are best bang for buck.....go for it.
about pictures, theatre has been the reference from very start....and plasma has the most close picture with reference to thetrer than lcds or lcd-leds...
about pictures, theatre has been the reference from very start....and plasma has the most close picture with reference to thetrer than lcds or lcd-leds...
Plasmas have been said to have the best PQ from the beginning of their evolution but If get to have the latest LED used in current crops of 3D TV, we can find that the gap is getting narrower and may be in the next few years to come, we would have something which can leave behind the plasma as well.
Unless you can buy the Samsung ES8000 or Sony HX925 or Sharp Elite LEDs, every other LED TV available in the market has inferior picture quality compared to even the mid-range Plasma TV's i.e ST50, E550, GT50 etc, higher end plasma's like the VT50 and E8000 blow away all LED's except the Sharp Elite !!!
I do agree that a conventional LED TV cannot compare to a Plasma TV in picture quality. But new technologies come in to improve on the older ones. I had exactly the same sentiment as yours when I purchase a LG Cinema 3D TV LM6400 but the picture quality on it is much more sharper and vivid thanks to the IPS (In Plane Switching) panels LG has used in them. This gives them a wide viewing angle of 178 degrees and negligent color wash with blacks are similar to the ones you get on Plasma TVs.
avmaxfan
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You sure about that ? AFAIK IPS panel LG sets have black levels much worse than Sony/Samsung LED sets, there is no way they will match Plasma black levels and they don't. Even the LG full array LM9600 has poor blacks that stand nowhere near top end Sony/Samsung/Panasonic/Sharp sets.
shefeeqonline
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Lg spammer plz have common sense and i have seen top end lg tv s this year
samsung and sony are much better than lg
Most lg models are only comparable to toshiba but better
3D in plsma is also better than lg i guess with better black level the demo looked a bit better than lg
the sword trick demo in pana plasma is awesome
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If there is tubelight on opposite wall of tv, which is better plasma or LED or it has no effect at all.
prosenjit
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well a dirct light just at the screen spoils any screen beuty.but in plasma.. reflection will be more.
if can re locate the tubelight place..best solution.why compromise when spending so much for a screen.re locating will cost max 300 Rs..
if can re locate the tubelight place..best solution.why compromise when spending so much for a screen.re locating will cost max 300 Rs..
just4kix
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So once more we have a plasma vs LCD/LED discussion. :lol: Here are my own thoughts on the subject.
The best praiseworthy qualities of a TV with PDP is black levels, natural colours, near instantaneous response and size per size lower cost.
Consider the first two, viz., black levels and natural colours. These should be of very high importance if majority of watched content consists of Hollywood movies. This is where the famed black level of plasma comes to the forefront and makes watching so much a joy. High black levels means that one can see more shades of grey and can distinguish the objects in the background that are enclosed in shadows or dark areas. Also you would want the colours to be true to the original and not saturated. But if one is watching normal TV channels or Indian movies, the black level/natural colour is not very much relevant because the picture frame is already saturated with bright and vivid colours.
Second, black level is something that may be over hyped. Now, if one has two TVs at home with different black levels, then one will be able to appreciate the difference and the joys of high blacks. Otherwise, the eyes will adjust to the current TV set and no one will not notice any presence of 24,576 shades of gray vs. 8192 shades of gray.
Next let us consider the near instantaneous response. Nothing can beat CRT or plasma in this area. The response time of a plasma is 0.0001 ms which is 20000 times faster than the best LCD/LED TV that has it at 2ms. Does this matter? Yes and no. It matters when watching fast sports and action. It matters when there are very fast camera pans across the scene. But if one watching Indian soaps with close-up shots of all actors one after another and background music beating at its grotesque dha-tchwang, dha-tchwang, dha-tchwang, then really the plasma will not bring additional benefits.
Turning to overall picture quality, plasma wins. Only the top end LED models such as Samsung 7/8 series, Sony HX850/HX950, Sharp Elite Pro, etc. can come near to plasma. And these models are very expensive. The Sharp Elite Pro which is known to beat the plasma is not available in India and costs over $4500 at its cheapest. The LED TV is still an LCD panel. To produce the black levels of plasma, each LCD crystal/pixel must be backlit by an LED and then individually dimmed/switched off. There is no way an edgelit TV (with/without local dimming) can do this. When the wafer thin Samsung LED's appeared, I used t wonder why Sony's models were still thick. That was before education. The thinness of the Samsung TV was because of edgelit LEDs. Sony continued the blacklit technology that was easier to dim and produce better blacks.
Finally cost. A plasma TV will beat the equivalent sized LED for the size. Plasma TV is not available below 42" but 42" plasma will be cheaper than most (if not all) 42" LED. This is because plasma panel is cheaper to manufacture. The LED panel cost is reducing by the year and soon there may not be any difference. And perhaps by that time, plasma will be extinct. Yes. This is another factor to consider - sooner rather than later, plasma panels will be restricted to very large size professional displays only. But that does not mean it is a bad technology. In fact, it is a better technology than LCD/LED.
Plasma will consume more power. Over twice the LED of equivalent size. But if you consider the cost difference paid up front (as of today), then this factor nullifies itself. It is like buying the higher costing diesel car believing that it is cheaper to run because it returns better fuel economy than a petrol car.
So to a ordinary person who just wants to watch content an LED is a better option. I am myself a fan of plasma technology. I also watch a lot of Hollywood movies via BD and DVD and to me colour accuracy and black levels are important. Hence I chose the plasma TV.
The best praiseworthy qualities of a TV with PDP is black levels, natural colours, near instantaneous response and size per size lower cost.
Consider the first two, viz., black levels and natural colours. These should be of very high importance if majority of watched content consists of Hollywood movies. This is where the famed black level of plasma comes to the forefront and makes watching so much a joy. High black levels means that one can see more shades of grey and can distinguish the objects in the background that are enclosed in shadows or dark areas. Also you would want the colours to be true to the original and not saturated. But if one is watching normal TV channels or Indian movies, the black level/natural colour is not very much relevant because the picture frame is already saturated with bright and vivid colours.
Second, black level is something that may be over hyped. Now, if one has two TVs at home with different black levels, then one will be able to appreciate the difference and the joys of high blacks. Otherwise, the eyes will adjust to the current TV set and no one will not notice any presence of 24,576 shades of gray vs. 8192 shades of gray.
Next let us consider the near instantaneous response. Nothing can beat CRT or plasma in this area. The response time of a plasma is 0.0001 ms which is 20000 times faster than the best LCD/LED TV that has it at 2ms. Does this matter? Yes and no. It matters when watching fast sports and action. It matters when there are very fast camera pans across the scene. But if one watching Indian soaps with close-up shots of all actors one after another and background music beating at its grotesque dha-tchwang, dha-tchwang, dha-tchwang, then really the plasma will not bring additional benefits.
Turning to overall picture quality, plasma wins. Only the top end LED models such as Samsung 7/8 series, Sony HX850/HX950, Sharp Elite Pro, etc. can come near to plasma. And these models are very expensive. The Sharp Elite Pro which is known to beat the plasma is not available in India and costs over $4500 at its cheapest. The LED TV is still an LCD panel. To produce the black levels of plasma, each LCD crystal/pixel must be backlit by an LED and then individually dimmed/switched off. There is no way an edgelit TV (with/without local dimming) can do this. When the wafer thin Samsung LED's appeared, I used t wonder why Sony's models were still thick. That was before education. The thinness of the Samsung TV was because of edgelit LEDs. Sony continued the blacklit technology that was easier to dim and produce better blacks.
Finally cost. A plasma TV will beat the equivalent sized LED for the size. Plasma TV is not available below 42" but 42" plasma will be cheaper than most (if not all) 42" LED. This is because plasma panel is cheaper to manufacture. The LED panel cost is reducing by the year and soon there may not be any difference. And perhaps by that time, plasma will be extinct. Yes. This is another factor to consider - sooner rather than later, plasma panels will be restricted to very large size professional displays only. But that does not mean it is a bad technology. In fact, it is a better technology than LCD/LED.
Plasma will consume more power. Over twice the LED of equivalent size. But if you consider the cost difference paid up front (as of today), then this factor nullifies itself. It is like buying the higher costing diesel car believing that it is cheaper to run because it returns better fuel economy than a petrol car.
So to a ordinary person who just wants to watch content an LED is a better option. I am myself a fan of plasma technology. I also watch a lot of Hollywood movies via BD and DVD and to me colour accuracy and black levels are important. Hence I chose the plasma TV.
Panasonic India currently manufactures LCD panels at its Noida facility and automatic rice cookers at its Chennai plant. The Noida plant has a capacity of six lakh units per annum and it will be expanded to 10 lakh units next year, Sharma had said.
Besides, the company is looking to produce plasma and large TV sets, which are imported from Thailand, in India by 2015, he had said.
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Business Line : Companies News : Panasonic to make India a manufacturing hub
Besides, the company is looking to produce plasma and large TV sets, which are imported from Thailand, in India by 2015, he had said.
for complete details on the article
Business Line : Companies News : Panasonic to make India a manufacturing hub
dial2karthik
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great details j4k.. am almost convinced...
yet only thing worries me is IR and burn in... Have been hearing and reading that its a things of past for plasma panels... Ane details on this..
and does it emit more heat than other panels. ?
yet only thing worries me is IR and burn in... Have been hearing and reading that its a things of past for plasma panels... Ane details on this..
and does it emit more heat than other panels. ?
just4kix
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IR is something to be watchful of especially during the first 200 hours of plasma when the phosphors are new and raw. The ir problem existed in crt tvs also but no one ever says anything on it. This only tells that the problem is overhyped. After 450+ hours, my plasma has no ir.
Plasma tv will generate more heat as compared to lcd/led. But it is not like your room will feel like an oven. You will feel the warmth when you stand close to one foot from the tv.
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dial2karthik
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thts great news...
ok usage would be more of sports/movie/gaming ( HD/BD) and soaps in SD.
during Break in period, how to handle SD Channels..
ok usage would be more of sports/movie/gaming ( HD/BD) and soaps in SD.
during Break in period, how to handle SD Channels..
Image retention(IR) is a serious concern for an average TV channel viewer like me, channel logo along with DTH logo will result in IR i guess, specially while watching cricket matches for continous 5-7 hrs
just4kix
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Please refer my ST50 thread. I have no IR issue.
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