Enkay78
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Tangent. NiceWhy would PS audio care when people are anyway buying it

Raise by the wolves is now more interesting

Tangent. NiceWhy would PS audio care when people are anyway buying it
While I do agree a lot of companies exaggerate their claims eg. I am using the Marantz 7011 which has a sticker on it mentioning 200 watts. While I know that is surely not the case, yet I am fine with the way it sounds. A good example is how the car manufacturers fudge the mileage, yet people buy their cars & are happy with them. Some phones may boast of mega pixels, speed & the image clarity. But I doubt if they can ever beat a full frame SLR camera. Yet people buy them.And may i have the pleasure to remind my moot point - this thread is not about the individuals experience/taste/likes/dislikes . One is not challenging the ownership or choice of this device at the individual end.
its about the accountability of manufacturers and health of this hobby/industry. And it's a perspective as a consumer.
ita neither a didactive. Nor an accusation to anyone else other than PS Audio. So let the company answer this and show the evidence.
no one else needs to feel butthurt.....because...again reiterating, the thread is not targeted to any individual/his taste/experience.
Audiophilia Nervosa is a religion and much like discussions about religion where each claims/thinks his/her religion is the right one, in the end, such discussions will ALWAYS descend into name calling, exaggerated defensiveness, playing the victim etc. It is advisable to walk away when one can.I see the pointlessness in this discussion.
Room response? Come on... are you being naïve or as they say in hindi, 'dal mere thoda namak aur daal kar dekho kya hotha hai'.How is variation in room response eliminated in products that are measured well ?
Did you try one arjits a very subjective expectation. Why would PS audio care when people are anyway buying it.
Now if their sales were hurting due to lack of specs, it would be objective !
Did you try one arj
Or any CVT or isolation transformer or the usual single or double conversion ups'es
Some people do exhibit an insatiable appetite for this condition running around in circles with no end in sight. What a life to live indeed !Audiophilia Nervosa is a religion and much like discussions about religion where each claims/thinks his/her religion is the right one, in the end, such discussions will ALWAYS descend into name calling, exaggerated defensiveness, playing the victim etc. It is advisable to walk away when one can.
I am beginning to now understand why many users have left this forum.![]()
Hahahaha.........Which begs the question, why are ASR users landing up here?
I’ve checked out the ASR forum a couple of times, and was immediately put off by the general tone and manner of it’s discourse: opinionated, blinkered and abrasive.
Also, I caught a strong whiff of sour grapes in the air![]()
And why not? While we're at it, also, why is the earth round?Which begs the question, why are ASR users landing up here?
Can you hear it? if you cannot, it isn'twhy is the earth round?![]()
ASR be damned. Measurements be damned. I don't believe them. My ears are the best judge just like my eyes and I can see that the earth is flat.Can you hear it? if you cannot, it isn't
Love this. its like Faith and Science. ie what was unexplainable by science was put into Gods account but over time our knowledge of science always progresses and will continue to either prove or disprove it.BTW, did you know,
"In philosophy, objectivity is the concept of truth independent from individual subjectivity (bias caused by one's perception, emotions, or imagination)."???
I noticed that before and yes, that was swept under the carpet.In the ASR review, the reviewer also point out to improvements to the regenerated wave in terms of reducing harmonics, but in a very clouded way.
Which is probably why according to the measurements, it does nothing good and is benign.The review more highlights the pitfalls (which are in my opinion well within threshold limits).
Humans usually do. All reviewers do. Some keep harping on the positives and ignore/downplay the negatives and Amir does the opposite.That is Amir's style across the board as he has his own biases, but as end user we have to look at the points that benefit us.
Assuming or believing current science can explain everything is one of the great fallacies and conceitedness of science.The reasons why some of these debates happen is when we assume that the current science can explain everything. It cannot as science ( or rather our knowledge of it) will only continue to improve
Yes, yes, yes, I think almost all of us realize this. It's only that we find it not easy to accept. A certain element of mysticism and our supposed ability to interpret that mysticism in our hobby is what makes us supposedly unique. And we find that thought difficult to let go when someone tells you it's black and white with no greys. At that point, our grey cells (or lack of it) resist.Everything is subjective in the true sense.
Reality is subjective perceptually and we all live in this reality.
But the debate is not on that philosophical or metaphysical aspect of Human Consciousness/thoughts.
Science is what is to bring more objective understanding of our subjective universe/reality. It's because if we break down matter/energy (which becomes the units of our brain where subjectivism lie) these study or objectivism has made us understand. That rationalism or the cognitive process has come as a byproduct of evolution......and humans can now boast of AI/computers/technology which has been a long way from being caveman.
We have come from worshipping Sun to sending a probe to the sun.
The ART of music is what binds us to this hobby.....and no is denying this.
But the science of audio reproduction has evolved so much that we can can with confidence say we have achieve the State of Art reproduction vis a vis the audible spectrum. Unfortunately we mix the ART with the SCIENCE and try to explain the already proven technology/reasearch with heresays. Medicine also used to have these huge biases......but currently RCTs are being done which are slowly slowly peeling away what we thought right/wrong with power of statistics and level of evidence.