Red oxide paint

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Hi all
I am doing a DIY project of painting my cement floor with red oxide paint.
here's what I did:
1) mixed red oxide powder with white cement in 1:5 ratio
2) then painted on floor using painter's brush

I have applied one layer so far. It has partially dried. And I noticed that after drying it takes on a matte look rather than the reddish glow that is supposed to be there.
I understand that it is (or was) quite popular in Kerala as "Kaviyidal". Can someone who has done or has experience in this kind of flooring please guide me..... Do I need to apply another layer or is there some additive that I have neglected to add? I would rather do it myself though the option of having a professional do it is always there.
Regards
 
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Hi all
I am doing a DIY project of painting my cement floor with red oxide paint.
here's what I did:
1) mixed red oxide powder with white cement in 1:5 ratio
2) then painted on floor using painter's brush

I tried this out for my sitout/backyard, but unlike the olden days the paint just peels off after a few months. So I went ahead with Nitco tiles "Cotta Terracotta". You can find some pics on the floor here:

http://www.diyable.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=290#p290

If it is still existent in Kerala, do check with your paint dealer(in Kerala) about the right method and material to do it.
 
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Thanks.... instead of tiles I was also thinking of applying epoxy floor paint, though I have no idea if this is available in India. If so under what name and by what company?
 
Epoxy in red is a good idea and cheaper too. Last I enquired for my car garage, it was ~15 bucks per sq.ft. It is usually used in factory, garages etc to maintain the floor stain-free.
 
Hi all
I am doing a DIY project of painting my cement floor with red oxide paint.
here's what I did:
1) mixed red oxide powder with white cement in 1:5 ratio
2) then painted on floor using painter's brush

I have applied one layer so far. It has partially dried. And I noticed that after drying it takes on a matte look rather than the reddish glow that is supposed to be there.
I understand that it is (or was) quite popular in Kerala as "Kaviyidal". Can someone who has done or has experience in this kind of flooring please guide me..... Do I need to apply another layer or is there some additive that I have neglected to add? I would rather do it myself though the option of having a professional do it is always there.
Regards

We used to have red oxide floor many years ago and I hav always seen a buffing process follow up after the application. Isn't it still the case?
 
Hi

You should apply wax polish for red oxide and should not trod on for at least one day but it never stays long. To get a good sheen you have to redo the whole flooring fresh.

Regards
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For it to last longer, the layer must be thick enough. For shiny finish, you need to machine polish the floor with abrasive soap stones of varied grades & finally a coat of wax br is done with marble & mosaic floorings.
 
BTW I grew up in a house with red oxide flooring. I recall there is some buffing required with a machine to make it shine.

--G0bble
 
Thanks a lot CANDUU. If only I knew this before, I would have opted for this finish itself for my project mentioned above:sad:.

Shredder, do keep us posted on how you with CANDUU's suggestion. Looks fabulous.

Thanks for the interest. Actually it was an "I have got nothing better to do DIY weekend project". I have discovered through trial and error that merely painting is not enough. You have to remove the previous plastering, which I did not do. When painting initially it looks good enough. As it dries, the red oxide does not stick to the floor and all you are left with is a fine layering of red oxide powder. But maybe next time I'll get around to using epoxy paint. @ Canduu, is epoxy marketed as epoxy or is it marketed locally under some other name?? Which Indian company manufactures it?
Regards
 
Hi all
I am doing a DIY project of painting my cement floor with red oxide paint.
here's what I did:
1) mixed red oxide powder with white cement in 1:5 ratio
2) then painted on floor using painter's brush

I have applied one layer so far. It has partially dried. And I noticed that after drying it takes on a matte look rather than the reddish glow that is supposed to be there.
I understand that it is (or was) quite popular in Kerala as "Kaviyidal". Can someone who has done or has experience in this kind of flooring please guide me..... Do I need to apply another layer or is there some additive that I have neglected to add? I would rather do it myself though the option of having a professional do it is always there.
Regards
Although a very traditional approach I think this below has authenticity since the word Verandah is a Punjab word so I think perhaps Red Oxide Verandahs originated in Punjab. Here is an article by SATHYA PRAKASH VARANASHI which explains the very traditional approach to creating a perfect red oxide verandah done the traditional way. Now I am going to see if he also has published the recipe for the Red Oxide polish made the traditional way.
the following is from a newspaper in India called the Hindi Times.

Getting the best from red-oxide floors - The Hindu
Red-oxide floor
by SATHYA PRAKASH VARANASHI

Everyone knows how to construct, for it is a visible and seemingly simple action, but very few know it thoroughly. There could be many masons who know the basic methods of doing the red oxide floor on the first day, but lack the knowledge of following it up with the right process until we get the best of floors.
Follow these importantly:
The day after doing the floor, cure the floor by sprinkling water every two to three hours for a whole day, to avoid a dry floor. The second day, a thin sheet of water should be stocked up to check if white patches appear on the floor. If they do, remove the water, rub them off with a cloth and again refill water, until no white patches are visible. Once the floor is laid, no one should walk on it for a minimum of four days, except for watering and waxing. Let the floor dry for a few days, clean it by wet and dry mopping and apply 400 grade sand paper in case smoothening and levelling is enquired. Red colour wax should now be applied directly on the surface with a soft cloth.
As the wax dries, rub the surface with rice husk or coconut pith in circular fashion until the wax disappears. Keep the room closed for three days so that the floor absorbs the wax fully.
The finer points
The water should be clean or treated, and definitely not the mineral-rich bore well water.
White cement and high grade grey cements tend to set fast, hence not advisable. Sand should not have silt deposits on its surface, hence better to clean them before mixing.
Quality of red oxide is important to ensure that wear and tear across the years does not expose the concrete beneath.
For 1 part oxide, up to 3 parts grey cement gives dark red colour, while increasing cement quantity leads to light red shades.
White cement too can be used to get different shades, but with utmost care.
Cement and oxide should be first mixed in dry form, slowly adding water to get a consistent slurry-like mix. Any lump formation in the mix will show up in the flooring. Trowelling to get an even surface is very important. While the minor undulations vanish during the hand polish, the major ones may remain.
Among the minor problems of red oxide floors, but persistent one is surface cracks. To contain these crack lines, masons run a thread line in a grid fashion or nowadays, glass strips too have been attempted.
Oxide floors need to be done in one continuous stretch without break, often taking the whole day and night depending upon the area to be covered.
Masons get to rest only after the top layer is finished and wax polish rubbed to dryness.
Most materials deteriorate with age, but red oxide floor is an exception. It shines more the longer it is used!
SATHYA PRAKASH VARANASHI
 
Thanks.... instead of tiles I was also thinking of applying epoxy floor paint, though I have no idea if this is available in India. If so under what name and by what company?

Epoxy is available easily in India. It is extensively used in hospitals especially in operating rooms and also in indoor stadiums of various institutions. I'll pm you the details.
 
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