Sony (4K) LED KD-84X9000 at staggering 1,699,900/-

[akasmarty2003]

last night I had a chance to get the glimpse of newly launched so called Ultra-HD LED which comes with the gigantic size of 84 the prize of this beast is Rs. 1,699,900/- at high street phoenix at Parel. The showroom manager was ready to lower the price a bit but still doesnt make any sense to me. Now I found the PQ quality to be really sharp even from close at 4 feet but did noticed some pixilation from 2 feet. Here is the linky for more info: KD-84X9000 : X Series (4K TV) : BRAVIA HD TV (LED & LCD) : Sony India some pics i managed to get View attachment 9640

 

[akasmarty2003]

some more pics:

 

[baijuxavior]

Great. The pixalization may be due to the content being not 4K. I think the same model is listed in infibeam for the whopping 16Lakhs.

 

[Vinod.R]

It may be god's gift to mankind since the nectar of immortality, however, that price does not justify itself!

We guys have hardly got out of FHD yet!

 

[akasmarty2003]

Great. The pixalization may be due to the content being not 4K. I think the same model is listed in infibeam for the whopping 16Lakhs.

i checked with the showroom manager the feed was indeed 4K.

 

[Vinod.R]

We still have to wait for the technology to mature as it is early days.

The cost of R&D have to be recovered by the companies namely Sony, LG etc., so it is the early adopters who bear the brunt (I guess they can bear it).

I would guess about 3-5 years for prices to reach more sane levels.

Then there has to be a 4K playing format player? Then hollywood can re release movies in this new format and call blu ray standard FHD format ?

Sorry just rambling my thoughts.

Vinod

 

[just4kix]

We still have to wait for the technology to mature as it is early days.

The cost of R&D have to be recovered by the companies namely Sony, LG etc., so it is the early adopters who bear the brunt (I guess they can bear it).

I would guess about 3-5 years for prices to reach more sane levels.

Then there has to be a 4K playing format player? Then hollywood can re release movies in this new format and call blu ray standard FHD format ?

Sorry just rambling my thoughts.

Vinod

One must remember that BDPs were costing $1000+ in 2007. Even in 2008, they were $500+. Only in 2009 the prices dropped to sub $250. In 2010, when major mid-steam players were retailing at $150-175, there was one Sony BDP model in India costing 25k+. What has exactly changed in the BDPs over the years? Absolutely nothing, in fact, they have become better and cheaper. Same happened with TVs also.

But in this case, it is not just the 4k technology that makes this TV costly. An LCD panel is very costly to manufacture (defect free) in 55" and above. So a combination of all the factors above makes this TV costly. One can look and admire the TV. But as long as one is not buying it, why worry whether it is 17 lakhs or 71 lakhs. To me, it is still the same price.

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[Dirac]

It may be god's gift to mankind since the nectar of immortality, however, that price does not justify itself!

We guys have hardly got out of FHD yet!

If it has pixellization for 4k feed, then imagine playing a low resolution video from youtube.
It would be like "wrath of God".:lol:

 

[hemantwaghe]

Heard from one member - one peace is booked in Jalgaon ......

.....as I say compared to 103 Inch plasmalaunched in 2007 at 34 Lacks ( ref link below) it is quiet "cheap" and when I can see Jaugars and Rang Rver Evoques in muy small suburb I Won't be surprised if there will be stock out for first batch!


Panasonic Display at Inorbit Mall

" Panasonic Display at Inorbit Mall
Madhavi Gokhlay, Oct 12, 2007 1601 hrs IST
The going price for this monster, which has been around since March this year, is a whopping Rs 34 lacs."

 

[zervinb]

If I remember correctly, I had read somewhere, that when you buy this TV, Sony also throws in a 4K streaming server, which has a few movies and documentaries in 4K loaded onto it. I think one of the movies was "The Amazing Spider-Man".

 

[ranjeetrain]

Seen this TV in action some three months ago. Pictures were jaw-droppingly realistic. It was like watching a DSLR quality still image, but not on a 14/15/17 inch monitor but on a 80 inch screen. Skin tones were surreal and I could see the pores and hair on the skin. These pictures don't even begin to describe how it felt.

BUT, the biggest issue is the availability of content. In India even HD content is not a mass available thing, forget Full HD and 4K. Till such time comes when the contents become wide spread, this thing will remain a white elephant. People with resources will buy it, of course it comes with huge rights to brag unabated.

For a change, we are not too far behind the western world. Even they don't have 4K contents as of now. So even for them the story goes the same, as of now that is. But the way Hollywood is tech savvy, it won't be long before bluray titles start appearing in 4K res. Till such times come, whosoever, wheresoever buy this (or any other 4K TV), will solely pay that money to buy bragging rights.

Unfortunately, it will take at least a 5-6 years for genuine Indian content to become available in 4K resolution. But then, hey, its as much a bragging right for Sony to launch such a tech in a geography like south-east Asia, as it would be for its prospect customers.

 

[madhavk8]

If I remember correctly, I had read somewhere, that when you buy this TV, Sony also throws in a 4K streaming server, which has a few movies and documentaries in 4K loaded onto it. I think one of the movies was "The Amazing Spider-Man".

Streaming 4k video with the internet speeds we get in India is not practical.

 

[kholi_pankaj]

If I remember correctly, I had read somewhere, that when you buy this TV, Sony also throws in a 4K streaming server, which has a few movies and documentaries in 4K loaded onto it. I think one of the movies was "The Amazing Spider-Man".

That server is being offered ONLY in the US, and it is not exactly "thrown in" with the TV - they are charging USD 4000 (Yes - Four.Thousand. Dollars) extra for it. And oh, it is not sold to you - just leased to you - it will still remain Sony property!

Streaming 4k video with the internet speeds we get in India is not practical.

Actually streaming 4K content online on Ultra HD TVs will need about 250 Mbps for content compressed using H.265 Codec - uncompressed content will need about 400 Mbps in internet bandwidth. At present, there are only two places in the WHOLE WORLD that can handle that type of bandwidth. Come to think of it, most users in India are not even equipped to handle normal HD level streaming. So obviously, 4K content delivery to users will take some other form initially - for example, in BDXLs or HDDs.

 

[deba]

I will buy a much better projector with that amount of money for a television......

 

[Nishanth]

The TV's stand looks ugly, I would never buy this !!

Actually streaming 4K content online on Ultra HD TVs will need about 250 Mbps for content compressed using H.265 Codec - uncompressed content will need about 400 Mbps in internet bandwidth.

250Mbps is the bitrate for 4K content for theatrical 4K projections. For 4K online streaming using H.265 codec you will only need about 30Mbps or lower. Most people in India do not have 30Mbps connections but for people buying this TV a 30Mbps connection should be affordable

 

[just4kix]

I will buy a much better projector with that amount of money for a television......

In fact an LCOS one to be precise ...

 

[just4kix]

The TV's stand looks ugly, I would never buy this !!



250Mbps is the bitrate for 4K content for theatrical 4K projections. For 4K online streaming using H.265 codec you will only need about 30Mbps or lower. Most people in India do not have 30Mbps connections but for people buying this TV a 30Mbps connection should be affordable

Most people in India do not have a 3 mbps connection (a few select have 4 mbps). Forget 30.

 

[shanmune]

Now, I have some questions on what could be the future strategy of the companies.
1. In Sony India website, I do see only the 84 inch model, but I am also hearing about 55 inch models. Is it true ? How much do they cost even if it is not available in India ?

2. Though I haven't seen 4k TVs, many say that Ultra HD is attractive only for bigger screens of size greater than 50 inch. As far as the mass market goes, screens less than 50 inch sell a lot. Am I right ? If so, then will 4k TVs find place for screens less than 50 inch even in the future ?

3. People say that the cost of 4k TVs will come down after some years (2 or 3 years ???) ? If it is comming down, then by how much ? As far as I remember, the initial Sony Bravia LCD 40 inch TVs (some time in 2008/2009) were costing around Rs.150000 (plz correct me if i am wrong) and now thay are around 70k. So it has reduced by almost 60 to 70%. Now, can we expect the same for 4k TVs as well. I know this question will involve some speculation, but please share your thoughts.

4. Now OLED coming in to picture, it comes at a high cost. I don't know what the cost will be for an ultra HD OLED. Or will it be like 4K/OLED placed as premium TVs only ? So will they be moving towards a 4K LCD or a full HD OLED or an ultra HD OLED ?

My thoughts (again, it is only a speculation), Sony and other companies might invest more in full HD LCD TVs in improving the technology further and take it to a point significantly ahead of Plasma's PQ. One step in the direction is the Sony's Quantum dot LCD TVs. It might be a case as well where 4k does not find place in the future - certainly a highly uncertain market dynamics ...

 

[vj_box]

This would probably be dubbed super HD I guess. Imax formats will be a easy go on these in the future!

 

[adder]

Now, I have some questions on what could be the future strategy of the companies.
1. In Sony India website, I do see only the 84 inch model, but I am also hearing about 55 inch models. Is it true ? How much do they cost even if it is not available in India ?

Sony has not yet revealed the prices of its new smaller 4k tvs.

2. Though I haven't seen 4k TVs, many say that Ultra HD is attractive only for bigger screens of size greater than 50 inch. As far as the mass market goes, screens less than 50 inch sell a lot. Am I right ? If so, then will 4k TVs find place for screens less than 50 inch even in the future ?

For small sizes a 4k tv doesn't make much sense but in the future once 4k becomes the norm we will start to see 4k even in smaller screen sizes.
We have a smart phones with a 5" 1080p screen like we need such a high pixel density screen.

3. People say that the cost of 4k TVs will come down after some years (2 or 3 years ???) ? If it is comming down, then by how much ? As far as I remember, the initial Sony Bravia LCD 40 inch TVs (some time in 2008/2009) were costing around Rs.150000 (plz correct me if i am wrong) and now thay are around 70k. So it has reduced by almost 60 to 70%. Now, can we expect the same for 4k TVs as well. I know this question will involve some speculation, but please share your thoughts.

4k tvs prices will fall just like any other tech.The high price of current 84" 4k tv is not mainly because of its resolution but rather because of the size.Take for example a panasonic 84" 1080p plasma costs more then a LG 84" 4k lcd.
Once Sony reveals the prices of smaller 4k tvs we will get an idea about the price premium just for 4k resolution.

4. Now OLED coming in to picture, it comes at a high cost. I don't know what the cost will be for an ultra HD OLED. Or will it be like 4K/OLED placed as premium TVs only ? So will they be moving towards a 4K LCD or a full HD OLED or an ultra HD OLED ?

Initially to push 4k there will be 4k lcds but the future will be a 4k OLED or some other tech like crystal led.