yamaha RX-V473 vs Denon 1713

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Sorry to be the one to revive old threads. .

But has anyone got any opinions on the OP's question ?

I am thinking of importing one from the US. .will try and find some 220V dealers there. .

So which one should i go for ? 473 or 1713 ?
 
I am sailing in the same boat. Even though heart says Yamaha, I am not entirely convinced by it. The Denon does have the extra 2 HDMI inputs and audyssey which would work wonders if you are having a non-standard room types and reflections to manage, which I think I have.
Yamaha has HDMI switching and pass-through in standby as against Denon allowing only the last switched HDMI to be passed through in standby.
 
Yamaha 473.
It sits between the 1713 and 1912.
Heard all 3 and decided on 473. Infact the 1713 is really not that gr8 at all. If you want a denon, then get the 1912 or its newer replaced model
 
I preferred the Denon 1713 as I hv an L shape living room & audessey mic tuning did help. Very happy with it so far.
 
kneo said:
I am sailing in the same boat. Even though heart says Yamaha, I am not entirely convinced by it. The Denon does have the extra 2 HDMI inputs and audyssey which would work wonders if you are having a non-standard room types and reflections to manage, which I think I have.
Yamaha has HDMI switching and pass-through in standby as against Denon allowing only the last switched HDMI to be passed through in standby.
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Are you having more than 4 HDMI devices? :rolleyes:

According to me the DAC in Yamaha delivers superior SQ. But yes, Audessey does help to a great extent, possibly better than Yamaha's YPAO.
 
I have just bought Yamaha RXV473 after selling Denon1612. I must say Yamaha has an edge over Denon in producing music to it's best. If someone has a preference of watching movies to the extent of 80% then he should go for Denon as it has a bassy punchy which creates the right ambiance for movies. But any pref below than this should go for Yamaha. You won't enjoy the music on Denon IMHO.

Also it doesn't mean that Yamahas are any inferior in movies. you tweak the settings as required for movies and get the best of theatrical ambiance along with nice surround effects.

Didn't miss anything on YPAO. I don't think YPAO does not have anything which Audessey has. Again it's an overrated statement that YPAO is inferior to Audssey multiEQ. Why so? these are just adjustment tools which anybody can do as per his/her test/preference.

Finally servicing part. Yamahas has their service centres all over India which is not the case with Denon. In case of any issue, even under warranty conditions, you will have to shell out atleast 2k as shipping charges for Denon. One of the FM has suffered some issue with Denon and had to shell out majorly on shipping.

So have a 360 degrees view and decide.
 
With tweaks and adjustments, you can make both Yamaha and Denon sound the same. The main point that can be a big difference is the after sales support. I hear a lot about Yamaha having more service centres compared to other brands.

Regardig the sound signature, it is very subjective. In various forums, I hear different people giving different opinion. As bpranay mentioned, few say Yamaha is better for Music and Denon for Movies. Others say that Denon is warm and better for good music listen and Yamaha add more punch for movie watching. What I say is we hear different opinions and finally it is subjective. More important is the choice of the speakers which will be the major factor. In my opinion, you won't go wrong either with Denon or Yamaha if paired with the right speakers combinations. You can see multiple posts on the right AVR+speakers combinations and just do audition. It is worth doing that rather than thinking too much on Denon vs Yamaha.
 
bpranay said:
Finally servicing part. Yamahas has their service centres all over India which is not the case with Denon. In case of any issue, even under warranty conditions, you will have to shell out atleast 2k as shipping charges for Denon. One of the FM has suffered some issue with Denon and had to shell out majorly on shipping.
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Regarding service of Denon, as told by ProFx Barton center guy, if you buy ProFx, it comes with 3 years warranty and for servicing you can give it to any ProFx shop anywhere in India and they ship it to service centers (I guess Bangalore, Mumbai etc). So it is only good if you have bought it from ProFx and you have ProFx shop near you. Otherwise you have to rely on local repair centers. ProFx does not service anything not bought from them. If you import the AVR, you always have to give it to local multi brand repair centers, I guess no brand shops does service (not even paid) for imported (bought outside India) items.

And for "which is better" is absolutely a personal preference. I heard Yamaha v473 with NS 8390 and NSF 150 floorstanders and then Denon 1713 with Polk TSi 400; I preferred later (as this was my first, I was not aware of features difference and all, purely based on which I liked; also as I am from Bangalore, service center was not my immediate concern). So I guess, anyone should audition first and then believe (and buy) :)
 
I am going to check out the Yamaha (473/573) and Wharfedale DX1 combination this weekend...at ProFx

The Denon 1913 +DX1 is good anyways...
 
Santy said:
Are you having more than 4 HDMI devices? :rolleyes:

According to me the DAC in Yamaha delivers superior SQ. But yes, Audessey does help to a great extent, possibly better than Yamaha's YPAO.
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1. Tata Sky HD
2. WDTV
3. Blu ray (Future upgrade)
4. PS3/XBox (Future upgrade)

I feel that with these devices, all 4 would be used up. Ideally I'd have liked at least 1 extra apart from these to plug in any portable device. Lately quite a few mobile devices and cameras have HDMI output (called MHL I think).

Also I have a L shaped room and I've heard very good things about Audyssey. I think for a beginner like me Audyssey may help in giving the best that the receiver can offer which I am not sure I'd be able to do with YPAO even though 473 is a better product. I fear that I may not be able to configure it to it's potential. Still this is just a thought process and I am trying to hunt for information to convince me of 473. The new 475 does have 5 HDMI I think but I am not sure when they are hitting the stores. Also they'd be a bit costly for the first few months.
 
kneo said:
1. Tata Sky HD
2. WDTV
3. Blu ray (Future upgrade)
4. PS3/XBox (Future upgrade)

I feel that with these devices, all 4 would be used up. Ideally I'd have liked at least 1 extra apart from these to plug in any portable device.
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In this list, already two devices will come home in 'future' and one more port might be needed for another future unknown device. Buddy, do not take decision by emphasizing so much on future. :p Yes future proofing is important but sound quality is more important. I am not getting into the battle of Yamaha vs Denon here, but you choose what you liked during audition. Anything can happen in future; for instance, by the time you have bought that many devices with HDMI, you would have enough money and itching to upgrade your AVR. And there could be also better & cheaper HDMI switches by then. :D Does it makes sense.

ps: Just curious. Why BDP when PS3 can do the job, including 3D?
 
Your pragmatic approach is very much appreciated, Santy. But some of these items are slated in not so distant future. I am not too sure about PS3/Xbox yet but I have a toddler who at some stage would want a gaming console. BDP would be just for convenience. Honestly, I have not spent time in finding out the capabilities of the PS3/PS4/XBox720 as a media player.

I am just a bit skeptic about getting an AVR and finding myself short of connections within a year. There are just too many devices which are HDMI compatible now, isn't it? Somehow I feel that I'm going to end up getting the 473/475 instead of 1713.
 
^^^^^
U know they do plug out just the way they plug in. I thought the first preference is always sound quality, most definitely over no of connections. By that logic, and im serious abt this, you should consider the pioneer 922. Seriously good avr, long list of features, its uquals the 473 (few miles better than 1713), oh and it has 6 hdmi ports too :)
SS difference between the two is that the pioneers emphasize more on the mids and highs with a lil more treble whilst yamaha and denon have better lows
 
Thanks edge111hussain!

I am planning to visit Fairdeal over the weekend for demo and maybe a purchase. Any 'tricks' to bargain to get the best price? (I am really bad at bargaining). I've also been hearing about Pioneer a lot recently. Apparently their AVRs are becoming quite popular, but this forum does not have much info around them.
 
kneo said:
Thanks edge111hussain!

I am planning to visit Fairdeal over the weekend for demo and maybe a purchase. Any 'tricks' to bargain to get the best price? (I am really bad at bargaining). I've also been hearing about Pioneer a lot recently. Apparently their AVRs are becoming quite popular, but this forum does not have much info around them.
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Yup their avr's r pretty good. I own the paradigms which r quiet bright speakers, else i too was seriously considering the 922 myself. Make sure your speakers aint bright, else pioneer is a no go. But i still feel the 473 is the way to go. The new yamaha's have changed their circuit design which leads to better power distribution. If u can get a denon 1912 for 35k, thats the one to go for. Its better than the 671/673 for sure. I own a 671 btw connected to my kef 5.1.
Fairdeal is against yamaha and onkyo. Even marantz to an extent. They r very pro pioneer so dont get carried away. 6 mts back i was quoted 32k for a 922 which was a crazy price back then. Fairdeal to make a sale can sometimes quote crazy prices. I suggest u avoid friday/saturdays. Friday being namaz and Saturday weekend sales r high. choose a tuesday and go bargain.
A tip, dont ever say to em, aka suleman or Kadarbhai, that u getting a cheaper price at another place. He knows it aint true and they will lose interest in you....


ps: the cheapest yamaha pricing in bill too was quoted by fairdeal to me...
 
Its an electronics shop in south mumbai. Craford market. He is big, business wise as well as equipment wise. Focal, mirage, energy, pioneer and jbl being his main brands.
He can otherwise organize anything for u at a price much lower than market.
 
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