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efernand1:
Hi! Thanks for your detail input! Much appreciable!
How big is the listening area?
It’s a Big Listening Area. My Living room is in L – Shape.
Are the speakers placed optimally from ground? (5 to 5.5 feet from ground?)
Well, I haven’t checked this but it is placed a few distance away from the celling which I guess have made a big mistake as it should have been placed in the centre facing the audience.
Since these are satellite, if placed higher, you will need to drive more power to them to hear them properly...
Yes, that’s true!
most of us make the mistake of putting them in high corner ends.....
Exactly, you are correct. But it wasn’t me but the person who came from Sony India to do the installation and demo of my SONY TV had also got these speakers wall mounted after checking its level so it is actually his fault of not placing the speakers at a proper height.
The speakers you have are the entry level Harmon Kardon satellite speaker system.....good enough if placed properly and driven by the right amp...the efficiency of these speakers are 86db....so a bit power hungry....
Well, the thing is that my SONY TV is such expensive that I now do not want to take any further chances of changing the position of these speakers from where they are right now. The reason is that the centre speaker is right above the SONY TV with the Front Right & Left speakers next to them and changing its position means removing all the wall clips in which the wires are fitted, bring down the speakers at an appropriate height and again attached them to clips. Just one mistake of the worker doing this job will cost me my very expensive SONY TV. So, I am now happy with what I’ve got. After all, its better to compromise a bit towards the effectiveness of the Sound quality (had it been placed facing me) than regret badly later.
1) Most AVRs offer upscale to 4k: That’s what my last hope relies on (After being badly cheated by both SONY & Airtel on the name of 4K whereas SONY that sold such hugely expensive TV to me doesn’t even have its internal capability to upscale any picture quality to near to 4K quality and Airtel on the other hand charges consumers on the name of fake HD and doesn’t even show HD content as it offer 720p resolution which is not HD). So, I just hope that whether I select Yamaha or Denon – It has to offer best 4K upscale and outstanding crystal clear sound quality and powerful bass effects. My spending budget is 55k INR.
It depends on the quality of content being used for viewing: The Quality of the content had, is & will forever be that 1080i from the STB (Set top) box by Airtel/Tata Sky/DishTV/Videocon, etc… Airtel fools its customers by offering a STB “HD” STB (Set top) box on the name of HD but it actually offers a resolution of 1080i which is 720p. 4K channels will never come to India for sure!
the interconnect cables: The cable has been bought by the SONY TV Installation man and he told me this is a very good HDMI cable to watch 4K content so I paid him Rs. 1’200- for it as he bought it. However, later on I realize from someone that such 4K Supported HDMI cables are available for Rs. 600/- so that SONY TV Installation man cheated me by Rs. 600/-. That’s for SONY employees stand for. Cheating business.
TV you have: I have SONY 4K HDR TV so that’s not a problem.
2) Humans (us) can hear frequencies between 20hz till 20khz,,,,,20hz is the lower side (bass) and 20khz is the higher
Wow! That’s a deep research and too technical for me but I got the point…(-:
Treble notes....any speaker which can emit maximum frequencies effectively in the spectrum of 20hz to 20khz is great and thats how you get good clarity
Again, just aren’t sure on the technical aspect of my HKTS 9 Harman Kardon speakers. I hope it does the job really well.
punch depends on the placement of speakers and the sub.
For speakers placement, I have attached the photo of the speakers in my living room which you may look at to get a proper judgement of how high the speakers are from the ground level. Sub-Woofer is placed towards the front extreme left side.= (Please refer the picture enclosed)
also how low the sub can perform....closer to 20hz....
Well, I really aren’t sure of the technical side of this HKTS 9 Harman Kardon Sub Woofer but it definitely gives enough punch which I can feel it even though my living room unlike a pack room compartment transfers sound to the kitchen at bedrooms from the other end which further leady towards the kitchen and bedrooms.
3) As above....most AVRs come with auto setup features to calibrate the speakers you have connected...it takes care of tonal, EQ, impedance setting and levels adjustments....
Wow! That will be excellent indeed! There will be no need of any expert than if this Auto Setup and do the job well.
the content you playback also matters, the quality and gauge of speaker wires also matter...
Yes.
4) Zone 2 feature works well provided it is configured well.....you will need a 7.1/2 avr for the same...
Yes, and both Denon and Yamaha have this 7.1/2 but only few models of Yamaha support different playback in different rooms whereas other such as Yamaha RX-V583 offers different room listening experience but with the same music being played in both rooms.
Depending on your budget, each of them Yamaha and Denon will have their pros and cons.....
Audition Yamaha at Profx –
I spoke with Profx in Lower Parel on the call and they no longer sell AVRs.
or other dealers.....Denon at Cinebels (Bandra) or other dealers to see
how does movies and music sound......
Can’t take any judgement on this b’coz their Speakers and Sub-woofers are totally different than the ones’ installed in my house. So, its kind of pointless unless I have Bose or equivalent speakers at home of high quality.
remember all auditions will be done using a Blu Ray player and not Dish TV or satellite content.....
Yes, that’s the big issue.
Another brand to consider is Marantz NR series which is good for listening areas upto 200 to 450 sq ft......can be manually tweaked for more output for another 100 sq ft easily... else the SR series.....you can audition at Cinebels (Bandra) or MZ Audio......
Actually, I got to know from one of the dealers in Mumbai that its best to buy Yamaha b’coz if cost of repairs is quiet low compared to Denon & Marantz. Service of Yamaha is also very good is what the dealer said…
No Cable or Satellite TV provider broadcast True HD or 3D or 4K properly
And they never will for next 100years!!!
.....as consumers we are often conned in getting such expensive subscriptions and get disappointed with the service later......
That’s the problem!
Cheating business is being carried out openly by these big scale companies and they remain unaffected!
DD is only for some channels and rest are analog or even mono in sound......
There are many Cable TV threads which are posted which give the real experience ....I am sure your TV was not a blind purchase.....4k is slowly getting set in India when compared to other countries......
thats the reason i am still with a LED TV for the past 5 years.
Yes, you've made an intelligent choice! (-:
.........once when 4k settles in properly and also there is enough Blu Ray content around the same ...then i may consider a 4k TV.......
4K will never come to India at all for sure! They can’t even output Blu-ray level of quality by these Cable STB Companies like Airtel/Videocon/Tata Sky…forget that, they can’t even output True HD also. )-:
Between both.....Yamaha would suit your requirements....
I’ll surely look into this than. I am planning of Yamaha RX-V683 b’coz I have got the final price of Denon AVR-X2400H as Rs 57’500/ from one of the dealers whereas Yamaha offers RX-V683 for Rs. 56’000/- online price. I just need to confirm if Yamaha RX-V683 can upscale any source input to near to 4k clarity which Denon X2400H does as confirmed by the dealer.
if you are open to other brands...check the Marantz out......see who gives the best rate...either HifiMart or MZ Audio.......
Sure.
The latest Yamaha model i believe is the RX V 685....so the 683 should be cheaper.....
Need to check with the authorized dealers about the best price. Yamaha RX-V583 is being offered at 45K INR (without installation). Rs. 1’500/- extra for the installation.
bargain.....luckily we have enough dealers in mumbai who are trying to make business and hence will offer maximum discounts where possible...
Yes, but I’ll only prefer Authorized Distributors/Dealers as I don’t want to get cheated with a used/defective or fake bill & warranty product. I am spending a huge portion of my hard earned money on just this Amplifier…(-:
.. I think the Tata sky box itself upscales the HD channels....
