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Any idea how Genelec would sound. I hope there is a showroom in bangalore not sure if they allow audition. Any user here who prefers Genelec over B&W or other audiophile speakers ?
 
They are from Bangalore - I bought mine from them. Mr. Farooq is the name of the person who I dealt with.

I have a set of Genelecs with me right now - G3/8030C + 7040 Sub combo. This is my primary stereo near field system - just runs off my Laptop through a pro DAC & wiim Pro as a secondary source.

I personally prefer this system over all others I have in house or that have come and gone since I have had the Genelecs. This includes speakers in all sorts of price band (both higher and lower) - from brands like KEF, Wharfedale, Q Acoustics, Fyne, Audiovector etc.
 
I am looking forward for 8341A since they are coaxial three way.. for a near field listening what do you think subs are necessary lets assume its a modest room 10x15? did you calibrate with glm kit ?
 
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Any idea how Genelec would sound. I hope there is a showroom in bangalore not sure if they allow audition. Any user here who prefers Genelec over B&W or other audiophile speakers ?
I have used genelec 8040b in my bedroom for 7 years ...
They are very good for their price for stereo usage...
Difficult to compete with.
 
I am looking forward for 8341A since they are coaxial three way.. for a near field listening what do you think subs are necessary lets assume its a modest room 10x15? did you calibrate with glm kit ?
My uncle has 8341a.
They are phenomenal.. do use glm kit.

I did his 5.1 HT using
3 x 8341a
2 x 8330a
1 x 7360a

Yamaha cxa5200.

He's very happy with it..
Usage - both music and movies.

All the best.
Dr Prateek
 
I am looking forward for 8341A since they are coaxial three way.. for a near field listening what do you think subs are necessary lets assume its a modest room 10x15? did you calibrate with glm kit ?
My room is 10x13 Ft where these speakers sit.

In my experience, a subwoofer is an extremely critical part of any stereo specially with bookshelves. Please note I am NOT at all a bass head, but it will be physically extremely difficult if not impossible for a small 5-6 inch driver to dip down to 40Hz odd, where a lot of low bass in a lot of music sits (think bass guitar, keyboard/piano etc). And this is the stuff you can hear not the "feel part of things".
I also personally prefer to run Subwoofers with a cut-off around 80-90Hz instead of running them full range - I think Genelec subs have a default at 85Hz. I look at it as a third speaker - So your bookshelves are doing 80Hz+ without stressing themselves out & the sub is doing all the work below. So nothing in there is overreaching beyond their comfort zone.

Yes, so I FEEL - regardless of the size of your room, if you want to do justice to your music, a subwoofer is critical :) Just in my opinion & personal experience.

8341As are a different beast, if budget is not an issue, there is no discussion there.

Below is one of the initial graphs of how these speakers behave in my room along with the sub. I could eventually tame the two peaks as well around the 45Hz & 120Hz.
Unable to find the graph before the sub, which basically had the sound drop off steeply below 70Hz.

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My room is 10x13 Ft where these speakers sit.

In my experience, a subwoofer is an extremely critical part of any stereo specially with bookshelves. Please note I am NOT at all a bass head, but it will be physically extremely difficult if not impossible for a small 5-6 inch driver to dip down to 40Hz odd, where a lot of low bass in a lot of music sits (think bass guitar, keyboard/piano etc). And this is the stuff you can hear not the "feel part of things".
I also personally prefer to run Subwoofers with a cut-off around 80-90Hz instead of running them full range - I think Genelec subs have a default at 85Hz. I look at it as a third speaker - So your bookshelves are doing 80Hz+ without stressing themselves out & the sub is doing all the work below. So nothing in there is overreaching beyond their comfort zone.

Yes, so I FEEL - regardless of the size of your room, if you want to do justice to your music, a subwoofer is critical :) Just in my opinion & personal experience.

8341As are a different beast, if budget is not an issue, there is no discussion there.

Below is one of the initial graphs of how these speakers behave in my room along with the sub. I could eventually tame the two peaks as well around the 45Hz & 120Hz.
Unable to find the graph before the sub, which basically had the sound drop off steeply below 70Hz.

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Totally agree, with small bookshelf's for stereo, low end will definitely be missing due to small drivers and cabinet. A good sub is essential in such setup imo.
 
In room response of genelec reaches below 40hz
Expect around 35hz extension..
Guaranteed.

But yes . With sub you get very good placement flexibility..
And genelec integrates beautifully with its subwoofers...
 
Is the sound of genelecs on the analytical side of things being a studio monitor?
I do not find that to be the case. What you get is a colorless sound - no real "sound signature". One of the most beautiful aspect of such speakers is, they will respond very well to EQ/DSP and also it will be easier to correct for the room issues. IJust using the DSP on the speakers & sub - I can get them to sound right in any room in my house!
 
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Being a high end studio monitor.. these sound absolutely fatigue free.. and have a very good frequency response.
Has a wider sweet spot because of being coaxial..
I do not find that to be the case. What you get is a colorless sound - no real "sound signature". One of the most beautiful aspect of such speakers is, they will respond very well to EQ/DSP and also it will be easier to correct for the room issues. IJust using the DSP on the speakers & sub - I can get them to sound right in any room in my house!
Thank you.Being a coaxial I assume it is good for mid-field listening, say, 6 feet away from the speakers.
 
If I am going to pair W371 subs I should be able to force the W371A handle the 20–100 Hz (or so), so the 8341A can breathe freely from 100 Hz

is this a good idea and can be accomplished via crossover using the GLM kit correct or any suggestions ?
 
If I am going to pair W371 subs I should be able to force the W371A handle the 20–100 Hz (or so), so the 8341A can breathe freely from 100 Hz

is this a good idea and can be accomplished via crossover using the GLM kit correct or any suggestions ?
Subwoofer placement is crucial in your room to extract the benefit from having 1 or 2 subs..
Under the speaker subwoofer placement as shown on the website will not work in most of the cases because of room modes.. its like having a big floor standing speaker.

Relieving the speakers from below 100hz is not the only criteria to have a subwoofer...
Once you add a sub and especially a pair of subs you must target flatter frequency response at your MLP. Glm / any EQ will not be able to fix the issue unless you place the subs at suitable location.

Regards
Dr Prateek
 
If I am going to pair W371 subs I should be able to force the W371A handle the 20–100 Hz (or so), so the 8341A can breathe freely from 100 Hz

is this a good idea and can be accomplished via crossover using the GLM kit correct or any suggestions ?
These monitors will mostly bi or tri amped internally. So, you don't benefit much from better mids from your Genelec by offloading the bass to a sub. However, adding subs always has its pros.
If you're yet to buy the monitors, you might consider smaller genelecs with subwoofers.
 
If I am going to pair W371 subs I should be able to force the W371A handle the 20–100 Hz (or so), so the 8341A can breathe freely from 100 Hz

is this a good idea and can be accomplished via crossover using the GLM kit correct or any suggestions ?
Genelec has a very active forum with members from the pro industry & genelec reps giving sound advice regarding placement, config, listening distance etc. They also have some comprehensive information posted on their website on a lot of topics.


A run through these should make things clear for you. You can perhaps ask the Genelec dealer to set it up for you as well in your house - I believe they do this for a small fee.
 
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