Dali Ikon 2

R Narayanan

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Hi to all

Can anyone please let me know what has been their experience with the Dali Ikon 2 bookshelves. I thought they were very good (and they cost plenty)but I would prefer some real audiophile views.

thanx a ton.
 
Hi Narayanan

My friend owns the ikon 2 and it sounds very good for my ears, be sure to pair it with a good amplifier. He was using the Marantz PM 15 and later upgraded to the exposure Integrated amplifier ( cant recollect the model). It is a wonderful speaker and I suggest to look for series 1 rather then series 2-----for some reasons i like the series 1. :)
 
Can't comment on Ikon 2, but I have recently found a used Ikon 6 and partnered it with a new Exposure 3010S2... If the Ikon 2 is of the same sound signature, you are in for some of the best midrange quality sound there is. Although my amp is not run-in more than 10 hours, I can feel that the combination has almost disappeared from the room! you are taken to a place where you only hear music and don't realize the components are there at all! The highs are very detailed without being bright... The bass however is not huge, but very fast and lean. Works for me for most of the music genre I listen to... Then again, I am hoping for a lot of improvement with more hours through Exposure 3010 and some room treatment.
 
DALI Ikon 2 is one of the best bookshelves you can get for the price. Agree with every bit of what has been said in above two posts, specially the fact that go for the original Ikons rather than MkII.

To touch upon the sound: mid-range is some of the most transparent you will hear for the money (the price in India is very good compared to the standard for hifi products) and highs are just plainly gorgeous. You will hear love to hear music with these speakers once you have hooked them.

Just be sure to do two things if you get them. One, mount them on sturdy stands. Two, feed them with good source and amp. Specially the source, they deserve it. With poor sources you will hear the imperfections in the sound. And a good amp will really do justice to their merit.

Among the amps I heard them with, they sounded the best with Primare ( I30, or 31 or 30.2, can't recall, poor memory). They also pair very well with Rotel and Arcam. Specially with Rotel their sound-stage is something to die for. If you pair them with Cyrus, you will get a silky smooth presentation. Choose the amp wisely for the Ikon, and choose the most expensive one under your budget you will be rewarded very well.
 
DALI Ikon 2 is one of the best bookshelves you can get for the price. Agree with every bit of what has been said in above two posts, specially the fact that go for the original Ikons rather than MkII.

To touch upon the sound: mid-range is some of the most transparent you will hear for the money (the price in India is very good compared to the standard for hifi products) and highs are just plainly gorgeous. You will hear love to hear music with these speakers once you have hooked them.

Just be sure to do two things if you get them. One, mount them on sturdy stands. Two, feed them with good source and amp. Specially the source, they deserve it. With poor sources you will hear the imperfections in the sound. And a good amp will really do justice to their merit.

Among the amps I heard them with, they sounded the best with Primare ( I30, or 31 or 30.2, can't recall, poor memory). They also pair very well with Rotel and Arcam. Specially with Rotel their sound-stage is something to die for. If you pair them with Cyrus, you will get a silky smooth presentation. Choose the amp wisely for the Ikon, and choose the most expensive one under your budget you will be rewarded very well.

I have both the Marantz PM 7004 and Cambridge Audio 550 A. These are pretty good for IKON 2 ...I think.
 
I had a Dali Ikon-1 speaker in my bedroom system. IMO, one can even go for NAD amplification. I powered the Ikons with a NAD 302 Integrated Amp and the source being a Marantz CD63SE. It was a fantastic combo for the money. The system excelled in the upper mid-range and highs. The speaker was made in Denmark unlike many other bookshelves in that range.


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Hello All,

Adding to this old post because there isn't a lot of information on these speakers, and there is definitely some mis-information.

The Dali Ikon 2's and Ikon 2 Mk II's are both amazing speakers that will cater to a specific type of listener. It should be noted that the Ikon 1's right through Dali's top of the line flagship speakers use a combination of silk dome tweeter AND a ribbon tweeter. This gives the speakers superior off-axis dispersion, amazing high frequency extension (I believe into the 40kHz range).

This also does one more thing... It produces once of the cleanest, most transparent and razor sharp stereo images I have ever heard. This also happens to be my weakness when it comes to audio performance.

I also have spent many years working in the audio industry and I have been fortunate to have spent a lot of time with many different expensive and highly regarded systems. After hearing all different types of performance capabilities, I find that what transports me into the music the most and out of my listening space is the quality of the soundstage.

Massive Krell and Threshold amps with top of the line B&W speakers with Boutique DAC's and high end transports all sound very nice indeed, but in all honesty a little lifeless. The solid state amps have plenty of muscle, but are very sterile. The B&W's are flat from 20Hz - 20kHz and the soundstage has a nice black background. It's all quite impressive and gets high marks in all the literature, and I enjoyed selling it because there were great commissions and people WANTED to buy it.


Then there's a product like Dali. As the above post correctly observes, Dali doesn't make you sit back and look at all the great equipment you bought, they make you FORGET IT'S THERE. To my mind, that's what really great equipment should do.


There is some mis-information, primarily that the Dali's are a little bright. This is because people don't follow instructions. Dali tells you specifically NOT to toe-in their speakers. Don't toe them in as you would a traditional pair of speakers, don't toe them in just a little.... DO NOT TOE-IN THE SPEAKERS AT ALL!

Adding insult to injury, aside from many reviewers not following simple instruction, there was even one reviewer who added a THIRD Ikon 2 as a center channel. For a speaker whose main strength is stereo image, why on Earth would you ruin it by sticking an extra speaker right smack in the middle of your stereo image? And yeah, it's going to be too bright.

This is because the two tweeters will sound a little hot if they're pointed directly at you, and they also measure a little hot if they're pointed directly at you. But if you position the speakers straight ahead, parallel to the side walls as per instructions, the tonal balance will be spot on. And because the ribbon tweeters have excellent off-axis dispersion, you don't lose any performance.

What you do get are spectacular, breathy mids and highs, with mind-bending detail, and a sense of space that will have the hairs on the back of your neck tingling. Both the space implied in the source recording and the space between the instruments. Even the space between the notes.

When I was a kid, I liked the sensation, sometimes, when it seemed like I could reach out and touch the moon. With these speakers you will feel like you can reach out and touch the notes. You will feel like you can walk over and lean on Miles Davis's shoulder as you listen to the spittle collect in his horn.

That's what these speakers are capable of doing. And they can do this with even crappy, low-end electronics. Of course, the more you put into the accompanying equipment, the more you'll get out of the Dali's, but it's impressive what they do with moderate, commercial receivers.

Now the Ikon 6's (the floorstanding model) took a bit of a beating from reviewers for having some bass bloat. For the Ikon 2's this is a non-issue as there isn't much bass to speak of. But who cares? It's a bookshelf speaker for crying out loud. If you want bass, add a subwoofer. With a good sub, these will slay most speakers many, many times their price.

I've experimented with lots of different equipment over the years, and my main stereo still plays host to two massive Snell CV's with an MTM d'Appolito array, and they image quite well. My computer system consists of a pair of NHT SuperZero's with a sub. And my bedroom system has a pair of Ikon 2's with a pair of subs. And as nice and impressive as my Snell's sound, I think they would easily be bested by these little Ikons with subs, so much so that I haven't tried them in my main system for fear of falling out of love with the Snell's that have served me so well for so many years.

If you appreciate holographic imaging (a strength of the NHT's as well), then you will be overjoyed with almost any of the Dali line, but you aren't settling if you get the Ikon 2's, as their performance in combination with a sub is world-class.

MF
 
Hello All,

Adding to this old post because there isn't a lot of information on these speakers, and there is definitely some mis-information.

The Dali Ikon 2's and Ikon 2 Mk II's are both amazing speakers that will cater to a specific type of listener. It should be noted that the Ikon 1's right through Dali's top of the line flagship speakers use a combination of silk dome tweeter AND a ribbon tweeter. This gives the speakers superior off-axis dispersion, amazing high frequency extension (I believe into the 40kHz range).

This also does one more thing... It produces once of the cleanest, most transparent and razor sharp stereo images I have ever heard. This also happens to be my weakness when it comes to audio performance.


I also have spent many years working in the audio industry and I have been fortunate to have spent a lot of time with many different expensive and highly regarded systems. After hearing all different types of performance capabilities, I find that what transports me into the music the most and out of my listening space is the quality of the soundstage.

Massive Krell and Threshold amps with top of the line B&W speakers with Boutique DAC's and high end transports all sound very nice indeed, but in all honesty a little lifeless. The solid state amps have plenty of muscle, but are very sterile. The B&W's are flat from 20Hz - 20kHz and the soundstage has a nice black background. It's all quite impressive and gets high marks in all the literature, and I enjoyed selling it because there were great commissions and people WANTED to buy it.


Then there's a product like Dali. As the above post correctly observes, Dali doesn't make you sit back and look at all the great equipment you bought, they make you FORGET IT'S THERE. To my mind, that's what really great equipment should do.


There is some mis-information, primarily that the Dali's are a little bright. This is because people don't follow instructions. Dali tells you specifically NOT to toe-in their speakers. Don't toe them in as you would a traditional pair of speakers, don't toe them in just a little.... DO NOT TOE-IN THE SPEAKERS AT ALL!

Adding insult to injury, aside from many reviewers not following simple instruction, there was even one reviewer who added a THIRD Ikon 2 as a center channel. For a speaker whose main strength is stereo image, why on Earth would you ruin it by sticking an extra speaker right smack in the middle of your stereo image? And yeah, it's going to be too bright.

This is because the two tweeters will sound a little hot if they're pointed directly at you, and they also measure a little hot if they're pointed directly at you. But if you position the speakers straight ahead, parallel to the side walls as per instructions, the tonal balance will be spot on. And because the ribbon tweeters have excellent off-axis dispersion, you don't lose any performance.

What you do get are spectacular, breathy mids and highs, with mind-bending detail, and a sense of space that will have the hairs on the back of your neck tingling. Both the space implied in the source recording and the space between the instruments. Even the space between the notes.

When I was a kid, I liked the sensation, sometimes, when it seemed like I could reach out and touch the moon. With these speakers you will feel like you can reach out and touch the notes. You will feel like you can walk over and lean on Miles Davis's shoulder as you listen to the spittle collect in his horn.

That's what these speakers are capable of doing. And they can do this with even crappy, low-end electronics. Of course, the more you put into the accompanying equipment, the more you'll get out of the Dali's, but it's impressive what they do with moderate, commercial receivers.

Now the Ikon 6's (the floorstanding model) took a bit of a beating from reviewers for having some bass bloat. For the Ikon 2's this is a non-issue as there isn't much bass to speak of. But who cares? It's a bookshelf speaker for crying out loud. If you want bass, add a subwoofer. With a good sub, these will slay most speakers many, many times their price.

I've experimented with lots of different equipment over the years, and my main stereo still plays host to two massive Snell CV's with an MTM d'Appolito array, and they image quite well. My computer system consists of a pair of NHT SuperZero's with a sub. And my bedroom system has a pair of Ikon 2's with a pair of subs. And as nice and impressive as my Snell's sound, I think they would easily be bested by these little Ikons with subs, so much so that I haven't tried them in my main system for fear of falling out of love with the Snell's that have served me so well for so many years.

If you appreciate holographic imaging (a strength of the NHT's as well), then you will be overjoyed with almost any of the Dali line, but you aren't settling if you get the Ikon 2's, as their performance in combination with a sub is world-class.

MF
Hello Sir,
Am not an audiophile,have bought my home theater system a month back with inputs from our forum.But the only reason i keep coming back to our forum daily is to read posts like yours which is awesome starting from the command of language to your experience.Please be patient and guide novices like us.
 
Hi karthikeyan1234,

Thank you for your kind words. Suffice it to say that we all depend on each other and I am sure that I learn much more from everyone than I am able to give back, and as many have said, the joy is not in arriving at the destination, but in the journey - so much to learn, so little time...

Thanks again, and enjoy the music!

MF
 
Timely and interesting post - I am breaking radio silence on reading this to ask for advice.
I am currently constrained by my Sonos platform which I don't want to move from, but this means amp power limited to 55wpc.
I have a pair of Zensor 1's in my main system, supported by a sub, and the system sounds as good as any I have had in the past, but I have an opportunity to move the Zensors to a smaller room and upgrade speakers. I must also mention that I am constrained to have speakers that sit on a long shelf - no stands. That said, my Harbeth C7s did quite well there, as the Zensors do now.
I am looking at Zensor 3's for a sound with larger scale akin to what the C7s delivered, but with the Dali sound signature, and the 88dB of the 3s will be handy.
While I am not keen on spending for the Ikon 2, one possibility is the Ikon 1 mk2, replacing the Zensor 1 pair, leaving all else intact.
Would that be a significant improvement over the sound that Zensor 3's would deliver?
Thanks.
 
sawyer,

the dali Ikon 2 are good speakers - no doubt.

on a shelf i would really go with speakers having a smaller profile.

something like the amphion 410 / Ion / Ion+ but these cost more than the Zensor 3 and the returns will be better too i suppose.

maybe the Argon 0.

Argon0 | Amphion

or maybe you may like to try the NHT super Zeroes... as well.. i understand avenue sound in navi mumbai are the dealers.

having given you all these options... the old adage applies.... your room your budget your choice and audition is recommended.

good luck !

mpw

PS : Many moons ago i liked the Dali Lektor 1 a lot due to its dimension. front porting and sound.

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Timely and interesting post - I am breaking radio silence on reading this to ask for advice.
I am currently constrained by my Sonos platform which I don't want to move from, but this means amp power limited to 55wpc.
I have a pair of Zensor 1's in my main system, supported by a sub, and the system sounds as good as any I have had in the past, but I have an opportunity to move the Zensors to a smaller room and upgrade speakers. I must also mention that I am constrained to have speakers that sit on a long shelf - no stands. That said, my Harbeth C7s did quite well there, as the Zensors do now.
I am looking at Zensor 3's for a sound with larger scale akin to what the C7s delivered, but with the Dali sound signature, and the 88dB of the 3s will be handy.
While I am not keen on spending for the Ikon 2, one possibility is the Ikon 1 mk2, replacing the Zensor 1 pair, leaving all else intact.
Would that be a significant improvement over the sound that Zensor 3's would deliver?
Thanks.

Sawyer,
In many respects you and I are in the same boat. I have Zensor 1 in my stereo setup and want to create a separate setup for which I am leaning toward the Zensor 3. I have thought long about other options and auditioned a few but I really feel in this price range it is difficult to outdo the Zensor line. Initially I wanted to try something different and see if I can like some other brand's sound signature more than the Zensors, but a couple of auditions have made me almost firmly believe that within 30K range Zensor 3s are almost impossible to beat.
I will also need to place them on a shelf and stands are not an option, I have been thinking if the bigger Zensor 3s will be a problem on the shelf or not.
Right now they are not available in Kolkata and I have been asked to wait another 10 days at least. I will be very interested to know what you go for in the end and how it is fairing for you in a small room situation. I think I will go with a CA Azur amp and the Dalis, or an Yamaha AS-500 as the amplifier as second choice to CA.
 
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Sawyer,
a couple of auditions have made me almost firmly believe that within 30K range Zensor 3s are almost impossible to beat.
I will also need to place them on a shelf and stands are not an option, I have been thinking if the bigger Zensor 3s will be a problem on the shelf or not.
Right now they are not available in Kolkata and I have been asked to wait another 10 days at least. I will be very interested to know what you go for in the end and how it is fairing for you in a small room situation. I think I will go with a CA Azur amp and the Dalis, or an Yamaha AS-500 as the amplifier as second choice to CA.
I am also not able to get the 3 pair in Pune, I am told it will arrive only at the end of the month.
Shelf positioning will not be an issue - place them without toe in, close to the front edge of the shelf, and the sound will be identical to the 1 pair, except larger in scale.
Amp choice is trivial, any 50wpc plus amp will be sound the same with either Dali pair.
A very good alternative is the KEF Q100, equally brilliant speakers for the same price, but with a 86dB sensitivity they could use more power than my 55wpc Sonos amp.
 
I am also not able to get the 3 pair in Pune, I am told it will arrive only at the end of the month.
Shelf positioning will not be an issue - place them without toe in, close to the front edge of the shelf, and the sound will be identical to the 1 pair, except larger in scale.
Amp choice is trivial, any 50wpc plus amp will be sound the same with either Dali pair.
A very good alternative is the KEF Q100, equally brilliant speakers for the same price, but with a 86dB sensitivity they could use more power than my 55wpc Sonos amp.

Hope we get them soon.
Have not heard the Q100 so do not know how they are, might be worth a visit to ProFX for them.
As far as amp choice goes I really liked the CA and Dali combo, so that is what I am trying for.
 
Hope we get them soon.
Have not heard the Q100 so do not know how they are, might be worth a visit to ProFX for them.
As far as amp choice goes I really liked the CA and Dali combo, so that is what I am trying for.

Please consider a Marantz or NAD for DALI. You will be able to listen to a lot more genres. Just a suggestion. If you have heard the DALI and CA combo and liked it, your liking supersedes all advices.
 
Please consider a Marantz or NAD for DALI. You will be able to listen to a lot more genres. Just a suggestion. If you have heard the DALI and CA combo and liked it, your liking supersedes all advices.

Thanks for your suggestion.
Unfortunately I have not had an opportunity to hear Marantz+Dali or NAD+Dali, I have heard both Marantz and NADs separately though with other speakers.

I heard Marantz with Wharfedale, probably the most common combination, while it was smooth and clean I did not get very excited with the combination perhaps. Great for easy long listening but I somehow felt it was missing the 'energy' some music requires. The amplifier used was a 5004 (with Diamond 10.1), maybe its lack of power could have contributed to the somewhat sterile nature of the performance. To my knowledge no dealer keeps Marantz and Dali together here in Kolkata and so it won't be possible to hear them together with a 6004 for example.

I heard NAD and PSB combo, liked it but the CA + Dali combo was more refined, detailed to my ears. I have heard a lot about the NAD and PSB combination, but I was somewhat disappointed after hearing them, to the point where I can even think that something was wrong with the listening environment.

I have the Zensor 1s and am very happy with them, have heard the Zensor 5s with CA 651A and liked the scale and how wide the sound stage was, plus the Dali sound signature which I like. So in my budget Zensor 3 probably is the best bet and perhaps the CA.
 
Hi all gurus,
Kinda new here
Bought zensor 1 for surround 5 for front vokal and 12ef sub

Question is i ordered marantz sr6009 and it cancelled by hifimart.com telling it aint available at the moment,, nyways

Still confused for the combo i.e dali+marantz,
Have read somewhere other review site that this combo wont do justice,
So its kinda confusing shud i still go on as planned or i need to look for other AVR

Have some for choice like denon, yamaha aventage

And auditioning vast brands in my city aint possible

I really need some feedbacks guys

Pls help

My concern is mainly for movies and games,music little bit
 
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