All about the price, isn't it ?

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Go through _any_ of the threads on this forum. Somewhere or the other, someone would ask about price, source/dealer. Who the f* even cares about music here. Typical convo:

1) help
foo: I need help
bar: I own baz
foobar: hey how much did you pay ?

2) review
foo: bass mids high blah blah
bar: price ?

3) diy
foo: Mr. Awesome made this
bar: price ?

4) Every thread
foo: My dog died.
bar: price ?

etc. etc.

Wonder if anyone ever bothers to reflect what they are doing here.
 
Thats becuase, someone said:
Buying is nothing about ownership. But its about when you are getting same thing cheaper than the other person.:lol:
 
Go through _any_ of the threads on this forum. Somewhere or the other, someone would ask about price, source/dealer. Who the f* even cares about music here. Typical convo:

1) help
foo: I need help
bar: I own baz
foobar: hey how much did you pay ?

2) review
foo: bass mids high blah blah
bar: price ?

3) diy
foo: Mr. Awesome made this
bar: price ?

4) Every thread
foo: My dog died.
bar: price ?

etc. etc.

Wonder if anyone ever bothers to reflect what they are doing here.

I absolutely agree with you. I get the feeling that in some posts some post asking about the price not because they are interested in knowing whether its accessible for them (google will give you a ballpark) but because they have nothing to add to the thread.
There are many knowledgeable/experienced people (who were part of this forum) who have either moved on or post/visit very less due to the quality of the discussions. It has come down in the last couple of years.

I guess we are a very price sensitive society. From the business angle I see this a lot. I am not saying price isn't important but sometimes I have had to give up sales for a couple of percent out of principal, guess the other guys feel the same way :-(
I would rather not have a customer who is expecting the last Rs discount vs someone who is not a big spender but is willing to work with me but hey I know I am in the minority

cheers
 
Go through _any_ of the threads on this forum. Somewhere or the other, someone would ask about price, source/dealer. Who the f* even cares about music here. Typical convo:

1) help
foo: I need help
bar: I own baz
foobar: hey how much did you pay ?

2) review
foo: bass mids high blah blah
bar: price ?

3) diy
foo: Mr. Awesome made this
bar: price ?

4) Every thread
foo: My dog died.
bar: price ?

etc. etc.

Wonder if anyone ever bothers to reflect what they are doing here.

Its good to see an Indian who has reached a point in life when money doesn't matter. I thought that kind of privilege was available only to Arab sheiks.

For the rest of us on this planet, there is a budget to balance, bills to pay and a life to live outside the listening room. But I agree in principle that seeking value for one's money should be declared a punishable crime.
 
I get the feeling that in some posts some post asking about the price not because they are interested in knowing whether its accessible for them (google will give you a ballpark) but because they have nothing to add to the thread.

Exactly what I wanted to get across to folks here. Maybe it came across as being inappropriate, but that's how I felt returning to the forum after a few months.

I would rather not have a customer who is expecting the last Rs discount vs someone who is not a big spender but is willing to work with me but hey I know I am in the minority

I can empathize with this sentiment.
 
Also, a lot of niche audio companies are unknown, add to it audiophile equipment prices range from a few thousands to lakhs. it better to know what folks are getting into before they get into the details.
 
Man, I got smoked out! If I could afford a 'decent' system (by my measure), I would be spending way less(er) time here in the forum. ;) If only a sack of potatoes could make sweet, sweet music in my home, then I wouldn't give a hoot about price tags...
 
If the prices of hi-fi gear sold in India was almost the same (like Usher...) as it is in the US then sure, Google would have been very helpful...
 
I get the feeling that in some posts some post asking about the price not because they are interested in knowing whether its accessible for them (google will give you a ballpark) but because they have nothing to add to the thread.

Umm, no. Google will give the prices in US and UK. Indian prices rarely correlate. Some brands charge a heavy premium while other retail in India at almost international price.

Besides, dealers/distributers in India try to keep the pricing as opaque as they can. Very few of them mention even the list price on their websites. And none of them mention the street price. *That* is annoying. The process actually repels the kind of buyer you said you liked; the upfront kind who want to skip the haggling phase and focus on the music.

Given this situation, the only way for an Indian buyer to find the *real* price of an item is to ask each other. I can't see why anyone finds it annoying.
 
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Its good to see an Indian who has reached a point in life when money doesn't matter. I thought that kind of privilege was available only to Arab sheiks.

For the rest of us on this planet, there is a budget to balance, bills to pay and a life to live outside the listening room. But I agree in principle that seeking value for one's money should be declared a punishable crime.

Look at the setup in my signature. Do you spot a Wilson or Luxman mentioned in there ? You definitely appear to be poor ( *hint* not talking about your financial worth ).


Man, I got smoked out! If I could afford a 'decent' system (by my measure), I would be spending way less(er) time here in the forum. ;) If only a sack of potatoes could make sweet, sweet music in my home, then I wouldn't give a hoot about price tags...

As odyssey mentioned, the annoying bit is when people _only_ barge in to ask about prices, without any relevance to the content, equipment specifics etc. in a thread. And that's pretty much every other thread.
 
As odyssey mentioned, the annoying bit is when people _only_ barge in to ask about prices, without any relevance to the content, equipment specifics etc. in a thread. And that's pretty much every other thread.

absolutely agree! I wince when someone asks the price... just the price... nothing else... as if price is what made the item in question worth it...

though the fact is that a lot of considerations go into making a pruchase: the sound that is desired, the room condition and hence the compatibility of the set up, the kind of music that will be played and then finally the budget consideration and the other options that came up while considering the purchase... but usually, irritatingly, one finds people asking: what is price??? LOL
 
If I got me a wealthy man
I wouldn't have to work at all, I'd fool around and have a ball...
Money, money, money
Must be funny
In the rich man's world
Money, money, money
Always sunny
In the rich man's world



--- ABBA
 
Ahh OK now I get you what you meant to say. You meant only price is discussed putting aside how the equipment sounds. Yes you may be right.

Sorry ignore my previous post.
Regards :)
 
Wow someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning :P...
But he has a point!

On the other hand, apart from DIY, it is not like gardening, it is a consumer-item pastime, and when someone posts, with a lot of detail and enthusiasm, about their latest acquisition, I feel the post is incomplete without some information about where they bought it and how much it cost. For starters, if we get infected by their enthusiasm, we want to know if we can get realistically enthusiastic or not. If they didn't tell, there is certainly no harm in asking.

On the other other hand, the forum does tend to toe the line that quality is directly proportional to cost as if it was a law of physics (will someone even reply to this post, telling me that good hifi needs good engineering, and good engineering is expensive? It wouldn't surprise me ;)). How many posts do we see telling people, "You don't need to spend that much?" You are much more likely to see, "You will only hear this if you do spend this much," or, "My system is probably not good [=expensive] enough to hear the difference with component x instead of component y". They might have more reasonably concluded that component x was hotter on hype than performance!

I do it too. I have spent the last several years telling people that they can get extremely good analogue sound out of a PC --- but they must spend at least Rs.nn,000 on the interface. It was based on experience, that I believe to be genuine, of an upgrade path, the steps of which were not subtle, but obvious in result. Even so, my basic assumptions have, recently, been severely challenged.

Heck... even now, I am dreaming of something that I found on the net at about 3.00am today, which happens to be just what I've been looking for (It's a headphone amp, with balanced input and thru-output, and supposedly pro-studio quality pure and flat sound) but it is US$1,000. I did decide I wanted it before I looked at the price, though. Honest! :cool:
 
:lol::lol::lol: ..... I see no reason why it should bother anyone... simply ignore the comment if you do not like it....
If you notice there is an advertisement where the guy looking to buy a ship/yacht asks the dealer ' kitna deti hai '

For me the price is the most important factor before making any purchase...the compatibility, the room and other details come into play only if I have enough cash in my pocket and accordingly I make further inquiries....

Its good to see an Indian who has reached a point in life when money doesn't matter. I thought that kind of privilege was available only to Arab sheiks.

For the rest of us on this planet, there is a budget to balance, bills to pay and a life to live outside the listening room. But I agree in principle that seeking value for one's money should be declared a punishable crime.
 
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