Best option to get high pass and low pass filters for my stereo system

[DB1989]

Sorry probably my mistake, wrong model number , when I checked it showed 50wpc. Moreover I've heard that Marantz so its easy recommending.

Tube Amps are a different ball game altogether, people won't consider tube amps for Elac. The Good Quality High Sensitivity Speakers matter more for tube amps, than anything else. Tube amp watts work like Class A, most of them have their own distinct character, even when made from same Manfacturer. Only the Chinese Tube amps sound similar. I'd probably not buy a tube amp unless I have a compatible speaker.

@yogibear would probably have something to say about this statement from what I've read about his less than 10w per channel tube amps driving 88db speakers. Looking forward to traveling to Jaipur sometime soon and hearing them.

 

[yogibear]

@yogibear would probably have something to say about this statement from what I've read about his less than 10w per channel tube amps driving 88db speakers. Looking forward to traveling to Jaipur sometime soon and hearing them.

You are welcome for a listen. My bookshelves are DIY, 88dB with nice Impedance plot. My tube amps rated as low as 1.5 wpc are able to drive them with ease and quite loud.

It’s not the sensitivity but the impedance plot of a speaker which decides if they are good for a tube amp. I have tested big 3 way JBLs with my tube amps, couldn’t go past 40% gain.

 

[yogibear]

I have now quite a variety of respectable SS amps in my stable. Once stung by tubes, it’s hard to go back to SS.

Yes, all tube amps don’t sound great. In that case, better to stick to SS.

 

[reignofchaos]

I'd suggest getting some other speaker than Elac. What I heard, I did not enjoy at all.

 

[Venkyrenga]

I'd suggest getting some other speaker than Elac. What I heard, I did not enjoy at all.

What didn't you like about it? I currently have a db6.2 driven by marantz pm7000n and it's fantastic. Plus I can't find even a single negative or even a mixed review for the ubr62.

 

[reignofchaos]

What didn't you like about it? I currently have a db6.2 driven by marantz pm7000n and it's fantastic. Plus I can't find even a single negative or even a mixed review for the ubr62.

Dry - boring sound. There is no excitement or emotion. While it sings alright, everything feels for a lack of better word - dead. The dynamics don't pop like they should.

My experience is based on DBR62 + Rotel CDP, Pre, Power.

 

[DB1989]

What didn't you like about it? I currently have a db6.2 driven by marantz pm7000n and it's fantastic. Plus I can't find even a single negative or even a mixed review for the ubr62.

Same reason a person can find the Mission QX2 underwhelming. I've heard some Elacs driven by a Marantz amplifier and I concur with @reignofchaos . Every other brand I heard that day including some Paradigms sounded better

 

[Venkyrenga]

To each their own. I love my Elacs. They are very good at moving out of the way of my music or the rest of the system. And the ubr62 is very different from dbr62, build and sound wise. And yes, I have heard some say that the dbr62 lacks punch and dynamics but not the ubr62.

 

[reignofchaos]

To each their own. I love my Elacs. They are very good at moving out of the way of my music or the rest of the system. And the ubr62 is very different from dbr62, build and sound wise. And yes, I have heard some say that the dbr62 lacks punch and dynamics but not the ubr62.

Please audition a bunch of speakers first before deciding. Selecting a speaker without auditioning isn't a great idea IMHO.

 

[Venkyrenga]

The ubr62 seems to be out of stock everywhere. Can someone suggest me good elac dealers? Let me check with them.

 

[srijith]

The solution which you are looking for lies in parasound p5/p6 it has crossover set for both low and high pass outputs

 

[matt5535]

Does the UBR62 or any other speaker you shortlisted known to have trouble playing mid tones while also reproducing bass at the same time? If so, it may not be a very good speaker to begin with. But then again, as I see it, the UBR62 is a three way design so each driver has its own frequency band separated so I don't understand the requirement to LPF.

Secondly, I don't see any reason why an amp shouldn't be using as much power as it is rated to make unless it has a flaw with its design which cooks it.

But since you don't want to use all of the power, look at the Bluesound Powernode which has only 50w x 2 but then again, all the power will not be required as you'll be using an LPF while coupling it with a Sub.

Not sure if i will get a response to this old thread. I am in same dilemma - considering the Marantz 40n - which only has LPF.
No HPF - which I would have preferred to free the amp from the lower frequencies which should give it more headroom to power the main speakers (Jamo C97II) at higher volumes. Do I make sense?

 

[DB1989]

Not sure if i will get a response to this old thread. I am in same dilemma - considering the Marantz 40n - which only has LPF.
No HPF - which I would have preferred to free the amp from the lower frequencies which should give it more headroom to power the main speakers (Jamo C97II) at higher volumes. Do I make sense?

Yes and No. The HPF is more relevant to ensure that when you are crossing over a subwoofer high (whether through its own crossover or an Amp's LPF), it does not interfere with the bass frequencies being produced by the main speaker. This "interference" can be both constructive or destructive and if it's too much of either, the sound will be out of whack.

This can be mitigated to a large extent through (1) proper placement of speakers and subwoofer, and/or (2) crossing over your sub low. Trust your ears to achieve a proper balance or use a measurement mic (MiniDSP Umik-1).

If you still want an HPF in a stereo amp, your options are very limited. One of the nicer examples that I can get get behind is the Marantz M1. I use it myself and have deployed both the HPF and LPF to good effect in a room where I don't have freedom of placement. Plus, it comes with DIRAC Live! Try and audition the M1 with a pair of B&W speakers and you'll be astonished with how good it sounds.

 

[MaSh]

One could check the fosi zp3 which has hpf. Had it in my system for a while and it was quite good and effective.

MaSh