BluRay Movies with black line :(

[soamz]

Hi.. I use a Samsung BDP 5100 BluRay player. When I had no AVR , I used to watch BluRay movies on my TV directly, by connecting the Samsung BDP5100 .

And the movies were showing full screen at 16:9 resolution.

I got the AVR day before yesterday and connected a Samsung BDP5100 with the AVR (HDMI port for BluRay) .

The AVR is Denon 2113.

And since then, all the videos show black lines above and below the picture.

They are not taking full screen now .

 

[spirovious]

That is the actual way movies are recorded & played back.Now go to AVR video setting & keep aspect ratio/resolution as passthru(or similar option).

 

[soamz]

I just tried another disc and it shows full screen.

Again placed the same disc and it plays full.
Why is the AVR so confused?

 

[technobhatt]

Movies are made with various aspect ratio as per director's point of view/vision, how he/she would like his/her movie to be watched.
Aspect ratio (image) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you were seeing all movie in full screen at your HDTV, that means your default AVR/Bluray player settings would have been 'Full Screen' or '16:9'.
Currently if you see the movie with Black Bars on top and bottom, those are the movies with 2.35:1 or 2.40:1 or 2.20:1 mostly. And that's the perfect way you should watch them, else if you set the full screen, you would miss some information on picture, as the picture would be cropped if not in 16:9 ratio.
Movies should be watched with their intended aspect ratio. Channels like 'Movie Now HD' and 'Star Movies HD' are showing movies in 16:9 by cropping their aspect ratio, which is unfortunate.

 

[soamz]

I just got a Star Movies HD and the movies are playing full screen.

Confused

 

[just4kix]

You are really read a lot and do some research.

The first thing is to check the TV aspect ratio setting on BDP and AVR. In the BDP and AVR the aspect ratio can be set for the target TV. The aspect ratio setting can be original, letterbox, pan & scan. TV will also have the aspect ratio setting such as 16:9, Just, 4:3, 14:9, various Zoom's, etc.

Original means the source material original aspect will be shown as is.

Letterbox means adjusting the widescreen original material for standard 4:3 TV. It is a method of presenting widescreen images on a standard screen television. In order to preserve the aspect ratio of the original video content, the picture is scaled down so that it fits the available width of the television screen. Since the picture will not fill the screen vertically, dark bars are displayed above and below the picture.

Pan and scan is a method of adjusting widescreen film images so that they can be shown within the proportions of a standard definition 4:3 aspect ratio television screen, often cropping off the sides of the original widescreen image to focus on the composition's most important aspects.

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The second is source material aspect ratio.

Movies are recorded in different format 1.85:1, 1.78:1 (standard 16:9), 2.35:1, 2.41:1, etc. Only 1.85:1 and 1.78:1 will fill the widescreen TV. The rest will have black bars on top and bottom. Some old movies are in 4:3 format also.

For TV, the SD video is in 4:3 format while HD video is in 16:9 format.

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Now depending upon the aspect ratio setting and source material's original aspect ratio, you will get different formated output.

The whole description is too large to explain and quite elaborate too. Please read the user manuals of BDP and AVR to understand. Also search on web, wikipedia, etc.

 

[deba]

Try to watch movies in their original AR.....it will give you the actual feel.....most cable TV channels forces the AR to fit the TV screen and its awful....

 

[KoolPal]

Guys, I too need some help here.

My config is as follows:

Panasonic Plasma 42XT50D
Hi-Media 600B Media player
Denon 1912 AVR

I am not sure what settings to change where to get rid of the black bars.

TV has setting of 16:9, Media player has also been set at 16:9. There are no settings in the AVR (atleast I couldn't find it)

Only option is to use zoom settings in th TV but this distorts the video.

Please advise.

Thanks.

 

[baijuxavior]

Why do you want to get rid of the black bars if the movie is intended to be in that specific aspect ratio?. The black bars are there to adjust the movie to the 16:9 screen and adjusting it will always distort the image.

 

[AnkurShahi80]

16:9 will not have black bars, 1.85:1 will have little . Just check the aspect ratio on the cover and expect accordingly. As suggested earlier, you can change the settings to display a full screen.
Or better, buy a projector and an Panamorphic lens and say goodbye to black bars forever.:cheers:

 

[just4kix]

16:9 will have black bars, 1.85:1 won't. Just check the aspect ration on the cover and expect accordingly. As suggested earlier, you can change the settings to display a full screen.
Or better, buy a projector and an Panamorphic lens and say goodbye to black bars forever.:cheers:

16:9 will not have black bars. 1.85:1 will have small black bars that are barely noticeable.

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[soamz]

Arey again confusion.

16:9 WILL HAVE BLACK BARS FOR SURE!

 

[EthenHunt]

16:9 will not have black bars since the tv has also the same 16:9 resolution.

 

[KoolPal]

I have a TV which has 16:9 setting, my media player has 16:9 setting. I cant locate this for my AVR (Denon 1912) and let me assure you I can see BLACK BARS!!

Any solution? Please?

 

[just4kix]

I have a TV which has 16:9 setting, my media player has 16:9 setting. I cant locate this for my AVR (Denon 1912) and let me assure you I can see BLACK BARS!!

Any solution? Please?

What about the source material's, ie, the movie's, aspect ratio? Please read my earlier long post explaining the aspect ratios.

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[baijuxavior]

+1. The movie should also be in 16:9 format, otherwise you will see black bars even if you set TV and Player as 16:9. I don't think Denon 1912 has the option to change aspect ratio. Atleast I don't remember if there is any such feature in my Denon 1612 AVR. The avr just acts as a switch unless it does some video processing by its own.

 

[AnkurShahi80]

16:9 will not have black bars. 1.85:1 will have small black bars that are barely noticeable.

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Yep! That's Correct. Apologies for causing the confusion

 

[AnkurShahi80]

Soamz just refer to this..

Check your source material for the ratio mentioned on the left most column and then refer to the right most column. Hope it helps.

 

[designation]

i know this is a pretty old thread but my question is why with all this technology they cant come up with something that dont habe this black bars in the bluray. why do the some of the movie makers intend to have that and irritate movie lovers like me. avatar bluray doesnt have the so called black bars.why cant they make all movies like that.

 

[sash]

1. Most movies are made in cinemascope mode. Here the screen is much more wider than a typical tv screen. Some movies are also made in 16:9 or similar ex: Zero dark thirty, most 3d movies etc. But most of the movies made are in cinemascope mode.
2. So how do you take a movie made for wide screen and show it in a screen that is narrower? One way is to crop/compress it - but that means you lose either some part of the image itself or distort the image (unnaturally tall, thin sticky figures).
Another way is to keep the width as it is, but still show it in a smaller screen - without distortion. The only way to do it is to make the height smaller - here they are not just reducing the height but making the whole image smaller uniformly until the width fits in the screen but by then the height has reduced so much that there are black bars on top and bottom.
3. Only the projector makers can tell why they make projectors that by default show in 16:9. It could be because if you want to show regular tv content (16:9) on cinemascope, then the image would be become too small. So i guess 16:9 is a good compromise.
4. Folks who have answered above have rightly pointed out that the best format to watch something in is the format that it was made in. That way you don't miss anything by way of cropping or distortion. But if you think you can live with some distortion (or loss of content at the sides) but want full screen absolutely, there are settings on the player and the PJ that can do this. Just read the manual of your player/tv/PJ