Buying new tv?

rajni

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Dear all
I want to buy a new tv of budget 40k. My main content is tamil regional channels through tatasky+ hd. I have 2 viewing distances 8 feet(opp. to window) and 12 feet(no direct light opp). My main priorites are good PQ AND good SQ. I want a no frills tv. I am open to both plasma and led, but it should last long.
Kindly help me in choosing which hdtv(with model numbers) can i choose within my budget.
Thanking you
 
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In the budget specified, it will be difficult to fit good 40~42" models. Samsung 43F4100 plasma is available but it is enhanced definition (852x480) and I will not recommend it to my own enemy. A few LCD models may be available. You may have to increase the budget slightly, say up to 50K for ensuring a TV with good PQ. Forget about AQ ... flat panel TVs have awfull speakers and audio. The audio is OK for listening but not enough for enjoying ... if you know what I mean.

32" LCD-LED models will be available in plenty in that budget.
 
samsung 490...42 inch plasma...42k.........enjoy.
toshiba lcd 30k.......40 inch...
sony 430 led..40 inch...49k.......

read lcd vs plasma vs led....and decide
 
Is PS43F4900 a durable model that you have mentioned. How is samsung's after sales service in plasma's during the warranty period.
 
completly no idea about durabilibilty....
sammy after sales service..no idea again..

no extended warranty on sammy plasma...that i know...confirm from local showrooms.

picture quality-----fantastic at this price.ask for a blu ray player free..offer was on before 2 months...check if u can avail that
 
Couple of days back, I demoed a few sets.

Haier (dont remember which model) : 37k:
SD was bad. But HD channels were quite good.
Sony EX430 & EX650 side-by-side:
SD (cable) was OK. Very little to choose between the 430 & 650. the 650 felt a bit brighter & a wee bit sharper. But with HD content there was no significant difference between the two.
prices as mentioned above by @prosenjit.

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there is no extended warranty for Sammy plasmas - see their website.
 
samsung 43E470 or 43E490..............best value for money, will be hard to find a better tv for the same price. From the new 2013 collection you might also want to look at Samsung S43F4900ARLXL.
 
In the budget specified, it will be difficult to fit good 40~42" models. Samsung 43F4100 plasma is available but it is enhanced definition (852x480) and I will not recommend it to my own enemy. A few LCD models may be available. You may have to increase the budget slightly, say up to 50K for ensuring a TV with good PQ. Forget about AQ ... flat panel TVs have awfull speakers and audio. The audio is OK for listening but not enough for enjoying ... if you know what I mean.

32" LCD-LED models will be available in plenty in that budget.

Hi, I am trying to understand the logic why would Samsung launch a EDTV plasma model F4100. No doubt its priced very well but even then since everything is now moving towards HD.
 
Hi, I am trying to understand the logic why would Samsung launch a EDTV plasma model F4100. No doubt its priced very well but even then since everything is now moving towards HD.
My guess is that they are offloading outdated models here and luring customers with big size / small price.
 
@OP - if you are going to watch the TV during daytime, please do not go for PLASMA. Even the high end models wouldn't give you enough brightness that you might require, IMHO. I've been looking to buy a TV myself, for the past couple of months. Though my usage is pitch black dark room, I'm still very hesitant about buying Plasma, reason being the brightness level of these displays. Only after learning that(based on highly reputed website reviews), flagship sammy plasma and high end panasonic plasma would produce a brightness level that would be good enough in atleast a dark room, I'm thinking of purchasing it. Still, I'm not yet convinced completely.
In the below article, if you like the wrong pictures (espcially the contrast and sharpness example) , go for LED or good LCD. 720p resolution is enough (only if you are going to watch it from beyond 8' as you mentioned). Else if you like the pics in the left half in all cases, go for plasma. It'd be like the perfect picture renditions, no frills n funs in picture quality.

 
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@OP - if you are going to watch the TV during daytime, please do not go for PLASMA. Even the high end models wouldn't give you enough brightness that you might require. I'm looking for buying a TV myself, for the past couple of months. Though my usage is pitch black dark room, I'm still very hesitant about buying Plasma. Only after learning that, flagship sammy plasma and high end panasonic plasma are quite good in dark room, I'm thinking of purchasing it. Still, I'm not yet convinced completely. If you feel like you are more into the wrong picture in this article, go for LED or good LCD with 720p resolution (only if you are going to watch it from beyond 8' as you mentioned)
I certainly beg to differ. You are giving the impression that watching plasma requires an absolute (or maybe near dark) room. That is completely untrue. I suggest that you visit the homes of forum members who have a plasma TV. I watch my plasma in my bedroom with drapes drawn. These are normal drapes and not double drapes or very dark/black coloured one. With my drapes drawn, the room has very cool (temp wise) light and the plasma is good enough to watch with brightness setting of -5 (on a scale of -50 to +50) and contrast of 35 (on a scale of 0 to 100). At night, I watch with reflected/diffused light.

If the room is brighter, one can increase brightness and contrast - this will slightly compromise the black levels but no where as with an LED model.

Curtains and lower light also cuts off reflections almost totally.
 
I have a 50" Panasonic plasma TV and it is perfectly watchable in a semi darkened room. The picture quality is great and 1.5 years on I have had no problem with it. (touch wood).
 
+1 to just4kix

Guyz.......I think we need to create some basic awareness for our forum member emmarbee.............he needs to know some basics. It is with such wrong info that sometimes lead people to make the wrong choice. I wouldn't even know where to begin, there is enough already on the forum.
 
@just4kix and Staxxx - I actually don't have any idea on how these TVs really look. My comments were solely based on my one time demo at shops and various calculations based on numbers (luminance values) and highly reputable website reviews.
I had watched these TVs only once.
First was UT50 - i was thinking it was great when watching the clips that I had took with me. But then I asked the shopkeeper to keep the same channel on all TVs. To my surprise, the lower rated LCD TVs looked noticeably better than the UT50.

Later when asked about that in this forum and learning from other websites, realized it was solely due to the REFLECTION from shop lights that the UT50 looked dull and blacked were greyed out (worse than LED).

So I was convinced that, if I buy UT50 and watch at my home, I wouldn't have that problem. cause my usage being completely in pitch black room.


But upon further digging, I came to know about the numbers - brightness levels, these displays could produce. Plasmas struggling to hit the 120 cd/m2 whereas the LCDs easily hitting 250 cd/m2. (A normal LCD monitor like DELL SP2208WFP, samsung and whole lot of other monitors produce this level of brightness, based on CNET reviews). And I realized, I always have kept my monitor brightness at maximum and while watching movies, I 'kind of' craved for more.

Of course, the downsides of producing a brightness of 250 cd/m2 by LCDs are abnormal color rendition, poor black levels (in fact they are grey, not black) and so on...

But a normal guy, a non-videophile, is not affected by this disadvantages in anyway as long as high pictures looked bright and good. For Ex: When a non-audiophile listens to a music with flat equalizer to that of the increased bass and treble music, he'd prefer the bright and fun signature of that music rather than a flat response ones. When I see such people, I really wouldn't know how to make them understand that it is not the actual music composed by the artist and what you are hearing is fake bass and treble noise and not the actual sound. But, that's just me.

Similar thing I have noted in displays, PLASMA lovers are videophiles who crave for the actual picture, that the director had in mind while shooting the movie.

I'm on the verge now, whether to be a videophile and see the intended one or to have fun and enjoy with what I like. :)

Hope this comment doesn't hurt any videophile's feelings :)

Even I like the concept of deep blacks in Plasmas. Cause I have a OLED phone and watching black as black is a great experience. First thought, the black levels of .002 cd/m2 wouldn't be noticeable in a dark room. But after watching the below pic, I was quite disappointed. Still the TV is visible in the dark room. If that's going to be the case, then I GUESS there wouldn't be any difference for me b/w light gray and very dark blackish gray.

VT50
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LM7600
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Please watch it in an OLED screen to see the real difference. On my monitor (TN Panel) both looked the same black. On my SGS, super amoled screen, it was a difference between day and night, with poor clouding (i guess thats the word) issues in LG's LCD screen.
 
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I am really impressed at your honest presentation of the dilemma of tv buyers.

With my tv viewing experience I partly agree with all the practical insights provided by you.

I watch my st50 many a times with a tubelight on. But something deep inside me will be irking me that I am missing the blacks and I switch of the tubelight and move to false ceiling lights. But for movies, I switch of the lights completely.
Still there would be some light coming through the drapes of the windows. But that does not matter.
While watching youtube and soap operas no particular precation is taken as they are not taken seriously.
I asked my family about the brightness and they say that the brightness is optimal and they dont feel anything wrong. Infact they say that now the images are more smooth and practically no eye strain at all for continous watching than on my earlier sammy led.

I have to mention here that I watch all programs in "true cinema" mode which is less bright than the regular modes, because the picture is considerably sharper with no visible noise.
 
@emmarbee, that is why I suggest that you should visit homes of forum members who are plasma owners. Had you been in Pune, i would have certainly said, "Come over". Then only you will be able to judge on whether what you are presuming is correct or false. No one disputes that LCD TVs are bright, much more bright. But as you pointed out yourself and the web link that you provided in your earlier post, LCD TVs in general with exception of just a few, sacrifice blacks and yield (over)saturated colours. Btw, LED TVs are included. However, for normal TV/DTH that does not matter. A rough analogy would be like comparing board room projector to home cinema projector.
 
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