EEI Classic 700 MM - Surprises !

In the late 1980s, a friend of my brother gave us an old Garrard RC80 turntable, pulled from a radio gram for trying to get it to work. I remember changing the cartridge to an EEI 2000CS stereo ceramic cartridge and if I recall correctly, bought it from a shop locally in Trivandrum for Rs.60/- inclusive of the flip stylus. The turntable was eventually restored and relocated back in the radio gram. Don't know what happened to it since then. I was in Standard-10 at the time. Great memories!!
 
Hi..
I have this EEI Classic 700 cartridge in my Cosmic table. I would like to know what is the recommended stylus pressure for this cartridge?
 
For any carts without recommended stylus pressure details, I keep it at 1.5 grms. Only if there is any tracking problem after this, the stylus pressure is increased slightly to offset the tracking. This is my practice but it is not from any book but from my experience
 
another perspective to the debate:

I have tried the EEI cart on a Garrard SP25 and noticed that it would skip and hop a lot while tracking at 1.5 gms or 2 gms (a shure mag cart on the same tt would track comfortably at 1.5gms). On using 3gms, it performed much better, and with less inner groove distortion. When I tried the same cart on my Technics SL3200, it tracked like a gem at 1.5 gms.

IMO, tracking weight should be optimized based on the tone arm type, as well but that's just my opinion.
 
another perspective to the debate:

IMO, tracking weight should be optimized based on the tone arm type, as well but that's just my opinion.

It depends on cartridge compliance,which is directly related with tonearm mass.High compliance carts suits low mass arm and vice versa.
There may be some compliance mismatch between Sp25 and EEI.

Regards,
Sachin
 
If its in its original box, then it should. Back in the day, a new EEI cart came with 1 flip stylus (microgroove and 78)

This discussion is about the Classic 700 moving magnet cartridge. It is not possible to fit a flip stylus to this cartridge. EEI supplied the cart with microgroove stylus. I asked the question because I have come across some cartridges that are box packed but the original stylus is replaced with an aftermarket retip of poor quality.

Regards,
 
This discussion is about the Classic 700 moving magnet cartridge. It is not possible to fit a flip stylus to this cartridge. EEI supplied the cart with microgroove stylus. I asked the question because I have come across some cartridges that are box packed but the original stylus is replaced with an aftermarket retip of poor quality.

Regards,

ok, I was referring to the EEI ceramic carts. I am aware that some sellers sell the included stylus separately. Thanks
 
All here are familiar about EEI 700 Catridges...I am using Cosmic BD-2000/Sonodyne 4000D for the last 20 years both using EEI Classic 700 and listen to Indian Music (Rahul Dev Burman) LP using my Yamaha RXV 671(Updated a Year Back) The stocks of my stylus are exhausted and hence require a spare stylus or an alternative cart/stylus. Would request all here for some inputs.
 
All here are familiar about EEI 700 Catridges...I am using Cosmic BD-2000/Sonodyne 4000D for the last 20 years both using EEI Classic 700 and listen to Indian Music (Rahul Dev Burman) LP using my Yamaha RXV 671(Updated a Year Back) The stocks of my stylus are exhausted and hence require a spare stylus or an alternative cart/stylus. Would request all here for some inputs.

Dear Surajit Laha,

I have similar taste of music (Panchamda only) and I prefer to use Shure M-97 Xe. This produces very natural, fatigue free and neutral sound. I also use Shure M92 E and M-44-7.

Cheers,
Sourav
 
Thanks Again But I Am Unable To Find A Stylus For EEI Classic 700 In Kolkata..Is It Available Anywhere Else Or Should I Buy A Shure M92 E Cart & Stylus, As The Output Signal Is 5Mv Which Is Max.
 
I have sold the Technics TT with the EEI Cart long time back.
I never got the chance to try a Shure on that.
 
Apologies for digging up the old thread...I recently came across a EEI classic 700 without a stylus..Haven't tried it yet but a few interesting info:

1.)Shure M55e's stylus seems to be a exact fit on this cartridge..(Hearsay from many old school guys... haven't tried it yet )

2.)Looks like EEI is an Australian electronics manufacturer and EEI 700 was a near TOTL :eek:

here is a excerpt from AK :
Elite Electronic Industries EEI 700 Classic nude parabolic (line contact) stylus, laminated pole pieces, boron cantilever, recommended tracking force 1.5-1.75g. 1984 Australian price AUD$139.95 (so quite an expensive cartridge), and included a number of refinements which were only included on the most expensive MM cartridges. This is the best cartridge of the lot, and was highly regarded.

Elite Electronic Industries (EEI) were an Australian electronics manufacturer from Melbourne, who designed and sold hi-fi amplifiers, as well as a range of parabolic styli, and some cartridges that they designed, and which were made to their designs by a Japanese OEM. Im not sure who the OEM who manufactured the styli and cartridges for them was, but it may have been someone like Nagaoka. They also had a stylus alignment gauge which was suitable for most cartridges, and which was sold with at least some of their cartridges (perhaps all of them), as well as separately for AUD$20 (1981 price).

Their CEO, engineer and cartridge designer was Peter Wright (no, not the infamous former MI5 spy and fellow Tasmanian resident, incidentally who wrote the book Spycatcher, that the government banned in England!). The styli were available for a range of cartridges including popular models from Ortofon, Shure and Stanton even some top-end models such as the Shure V15 Type III were covered.

Australian stylus re-tippers Garrott Brothers once had a very cheeky ad describing how a blind test by some reviewers found that their Weinz Paroc (parabolic) stylus re-tips sounded better than the parabolic replacements from a well-known brand. They didnt name EEI (they didnt want to get in legal trouble), but it was obvious thats who their blind test had been against, since they were the only company offering parabolic stylus replacements for a range of different brand cartridges in Australia at the time!

The EEI cartridges got good reviews, partly because of their (mainly) parabolic styli, and were exported to 23 different countries, including NZ, and England, where they were introduced by Aussie engineer Max Townshend when he discovered that they werent sold there. Hed previously been the NSW state distributor when he ran a hi-fi shop in Sydney, before he moved to England. Vinylengine wrongly think that Townshend manufactured them, because he included his name on the EEI cartridges he sold in England! EEI were best known in Australia and NZ, as youd expect. The cheapest EEI cartridge model (300) had a conical stylus, the next model up (400) had an elliptical, and all the rest had parabolic styli. There was even a low output MM model, the 747, which also had a boron cantilever and nude parabolic stylus.

This is probably is the biggest surprise to me as far as EEI classic 700 goes..:lol:
 
Apologies for digging up the old thread...I recently came across a EEI classic 700 without a stylus..Haven't tried it yet but a few interesting info:

1.)Shure M55e's stylus seems to be a exact fit on this cartridge..(Hearsay from many old school guys... haven't tried it yet )

Can you upload a close picture of stylus alone (Not full cartridge). It looks Shure M75 is the most suited one than the M55.
 
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