EEI Classic 700 MM - Surprises !

[analogadikt]

EEI that manufactred the carts was a UK based company that had their plant at Kolkatta, India. They were OEM suppliers to many forign brands. The Australian company shares the initials, but is not the the same company. As the AK post says, they sourced it from somewhere. That source was the UK/India based EEI. The complete name of this company was something like Electronic and Electrical Industries. Even the Garrard ceramic cartridges were made by EEI of UK. If you look at the TOTL ceramic cartridge EEI cs2040 you shall notice that it is identical to Garrard ks40. Another fm has much more information about this and I am thankful to him for sharing it with me.

Regards,

 

[Technics_Fan]

Can you upload a close picture of stylus alone (Not full cartridge). It looks Shure M75 is the most suited one than the M55.

Will get back with a close up of the stylus soon..

EEI that manufactred the carts was a UK based company that had their plant at Kolkatta, India. They were OEM suppliers to many forign brands. The Australian company shares the initials, but is not the the same company. As the AK post says, they sourced it from somewhere. That source was the UK/India based EEI. The complete name of this company was something like Electronic and Electrical Industries. Even the Garrard ceramic cartridges were made by EEI of UK. If you look at the TOTL ceramic cartridge EEI cs2040 you shall notice that it is identical to Garrard ks40. Another fm has much more information about this and I am thankful to him for sharing it with me.

Regards,

Apparently EEI was taken over by an Indian company later on...Looks like they had different standards in India as compared to Townshend


Townshend EEI 700 specs from VE

Type: moving magnet

Stylus type: nude parabolic

Stylus dimensions: 50 x 3 micron

Compliance: 10cu

Mass: 6g

Tip mass: 0.2mg

Vertical tracking angle: 23 degrees

Output impedance: 2,500 ohms

Load impedance: 47k ohms, 270pF

Frequency response: 10 to 20,000Hz

Tracking force: 1.8 to 2.0g (1.8g optimum)

Output voltage: 3.5mV

Cantilever type: boron

Height: 18mm

Colour: white and gold

EEI Classic 700 spec from documentation that came along with the cart (reference VE forum)

Frequency response : 18Hz to 22KHz +- 1.5 dB ref 1KHz

Sensitivity : 1mv/cm/sec @1KHz nominal

Channel Separation : @ 1KHz>25dB

Output asymmetry between channels : @1KHz<1.5dB

Recommended tracking force : 1 to 1.5gms

Trackability : +18 dB@ 1.2 gms (test disk CBS STR 111)

Frequency intermodulation distortion at recommended tracking force : 0.7% (DIN45542)

Tracking Angle : 20 degrees (IEC)

Inductance : 400mH/Channel

Termination Impedance : 47K ohms in parallel to 250pF +- 20 pF capacitance including connecting cables

Stylus tip radius : Bonded diamond Spheroidal 15 micron, titanium bonded diamond biradial 7x15 micron
Fixing centres 12.7 mm

Net weight 5 gms

 

[analogadikt]

EEI Classic 700 spec from documentation that came along with the cart (reference VE forum)

Am aware of this. It is my own post over there

Regards,

 

[Technics_Fan]

:lol: Wasn't aware of that.. so you must the LPFan in VE...
How does the classic 700 compare to a shure M55e. Appreciate your views

 

[analogadikt]

How does the classic 700 compare to a shure M55e. Appreciate your views

That is a little difficult as last I used these was three years ago and the system was not identical to both these carts.

The EEI is a low output mm hence it requires a preamp with good gain and very low noise floor. It is neutral sounding compared to the Shure that is warmer. One can use these attributes to balance the system, if the pre/power amp is also on the warm side, try the EEI to avoid an overly warm or mushy sound signature. So many variables, from the tt mat to curtains on your windows play a part in the sound of your system. You have to experiment and decide what you like. Half the fun of analog music is in these games

Regards,

 

[Selvin]

So many variables, from the tt mat to curtains on your windows play a part in the sound of your system. You have to experiment and decide what you like. Half the fun of analog music is in these games

True... Nice comment.

 

[Technics_Fan]

Can you upload a close picture of stylus alone (Not full cartridge). It looks Shure M75 is the most suited one than the M55.

As requested here is the close up view of Shure M55e stylus...

 

[Selvin]

Good. M75 is the most suited one for Classic 700 body.

 

[frend2001]

Hi FMs

I'm about to order Shure M75 stylus for my EEI Classic 700 cart.

Will any FM be able to confirm that it's compatible ?

thanks !!

 

[reubensm]

Hi FMs

I'm about to order Shure M75 stylus for my EEI Classic 700 cart.

Make that N75

 

[frend2001]

Dear FMs

Which stylus to order for EEI Classic 700 cart ?

N55 or N75 ?

Please throw some light.

Thanks

 

[greenhorn]

M75 should work,
FM Selvin had confirmed that the M70EJ stylus worked on his EEI
http://www.hifivision.com/sale-owner/62795-jico-stylus-shure-m70ej-cartridge.html
M70, 75, 91, 93 are all based on the same family, and with some cutting of the stylus sides, are cross compatible

 

[greenhorn]

the surprises continue - i got an EEI classic 700 from shafic, and it seems to be one of those universal recipient cart bodies - it fit M75, M70 M44-7 styluses as well as an excel es70 stylus.

The latter means you can fit a 614-DQ, the cheapest shibata stylus available (30USD for a shibata stylus!)

Have yet to see how they sound, but this looks interesting

 

[frend2001]

the surprises continue - i got an EEI classic 700 from shafic, and it seems to be one of those universal recipient cart bodies - it fit M75, M70 M44-7 styluses as well as an excel es70 stylus.

The latter means you can fit a 614-DQ, the cheapest shibata stylus available (30USD for a shibata stylus!)

Have yet to see how they sound, but this looks interesting

sounds tempting

thanks for the pointers

 

[greenhorn]

The 30 usd 614 dq is not a shibata from audiokarma reports, but there are still sub 100usd options. Look for the red pfanstiehl ones