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I have been in the market for the last few weeks After much research via Google YouTube and
I have been in the market for past few weeks looking for a replacement for my broken Samsung 55"4k. Basis all my research and budget, i zeroed on the 95G 55" and nearly placed the order. Then came in the 9000H last week and I put my 95G order on hold and started to explore the 9000H. Factually speaking I do not game but may consider buying the PS5 sometime next year for my 7 year old. Not sure. However I felt that I would be more at peace of mind if my LED for more future proof and specially if the HDMI 2.1 DTH boxes were to get launched next year or so.
But one thing that I was certain on was not to compromise on the picture quality (irrespective of the gaming and future DTH angle). I visited 2 Sony Centers and saw the 95G and 9000H side by side with the same content. Honestly, despite trying hard I could not any difference in the picture quality when watching HD channels from Tata Sky, 4k content from Youtube, Netflix etc. I really wanted to see the X1 Ultimate process of the 95G produce significantly better picture quality than the 9000H's X1 HRD processor, but unfortunately I hardly saw any difference. May be it is my limited knowledge about the finer details of picture quality, calibrations etc.
I then managed to speak to a senior technical person in Sony and he was of the view was that there is probably 1% difference in PQ of 95G vs 9000H. He recommended to go for 9000H just in case I get the PS5 or the 2.1 DTH boxes were to come in future....the 9000H will give a much better experience then. He did not say that the 95G is a bad buy but just that I would get the same picture quality in 9000H with added future use features.
I think neither will be a bad buy.
@karan382
IF your viewing contents more on 4k HDR, Netflix and good streaming platforms, You better go for the x950G.
X950G will show its potential when you playing the 4k HDR titles. Also it has more dimming zones for better local dimming than x900h. For any HD or DTH contents the x900h would be more than enough.
Also in the showroom light condition, We can't judge the picture quality since all the TVs would be in demo mode. We could take this as a grain of salt.
BTW, I really doubt the 1% PQ difference between the X900h and x950G. Seriously!!!!!
Next time when you go for auditioning,
Like you mentioned, you can't go wrong with either of them. Cheers
IF your viewing contents more on 4k HDR, Netflix and good streaming platforms, You better go for the x950G.
X950G will show its potential when you playing the 4k HDR titles. Also it has more dimming zones for better local dimming than x900h. For any HD or DTH contents the x900h would be more than enough.
Also in the showroom light condition, We can't judge the picture quality since all the TVs would be in demo mode. We could take this as a grain of salt.
BTW, I really doubt the 1% PQ difference between the X900h and x950G. Seriously!!!!!
Next time when you go for auditioning,
- Copy some videoclips (4k HDR, 1080P) that vary from nature clips to sports(racing/ football) .
- Get the remote and change the Picture mode to CinemaHome/Pro (eliminate all unwanted process).
- Now play the videos side by side and observe.
Like you mentioned, you can't go wrong with either of them. Cheers
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@karan382
IF your viewing contents more on 4k HDR, Netflix and good streaming platforms, You better go for the x950G.
X950G will show its potential when you playing the 4k HDR titles. Also it has more dimming zones for better local dimming than x900h. For any HD or DTH contents the x900h would be more than enough.
Also in the showroom light condition, We can't judge the picture quality since all the TVs would be in demo mode. We could take this as a grain of salt.
BTW, I really doubt the 1% PQ difference between the X900h and x950G. Seriously!!!!!
Next time when you go for auditioning,
This is what I've done when I hunting for the TV.
- Copy some videoclips (4k HDR, 1080P) that vary from nature clips to sports(racing/ football) .
- Get the remote and change the Picture mode to CinemaHome/Pro (eliminate all unwanted process).
- Now play the videos side by side and observe.
Like you mentioned, you can't go wrong with either of them. Cheers
Thanks Homur for the very helpful advise.
I did get the showrooms to switch off the projector lights on top of the TVs; put all TVs on Standard picture mode; watched 4k HDR content; 1080P content from Youtube, Netflix side by side. But still I could not really pint point any major differences. May be I am doing something wrong. In theorty the 950G should be performing better on streaming platforms.....But I am yet to see that in the live demos.
If there is no peering then you will need at least 25mbps for buffer free 4K. This varies from app to app. Some require more some less, some are dynamic which adjust quality according to current bandwidth.
Almost all ISP have Netflix, Prime and Youtube peering.
What about Jio fiber 399 plan with 30mbps speed? U think this will be ok?
GURPREET SINGH
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Samsung is not very popular soundbar brand.Very less people know Samsung owns Harman Kardon & JBL. So third party stores are not very keen in selling Samsung soundbars especially mid to high segment.Sony/bose/JBL/Yamaha etc sell in here. What we are getting in india is extreme value in Samsung soundbars.Just for prospective ,Sony HT-Z9F is priced 700$(52000) in USA but is priced about 60000 in India.whereas Samsung is other way round 800T sells in USA for min 750$(56000) but in India one can get for max 45000.
Yes.
Just get it out of my head, I visted (yet again) a Sony Center a few minutes ago and saw the 950G 55" and 900H 55" near side by side. For the sake of being very critical I noticed a bit more brightness in the 95G in some content and I felt the skin tones in the 900H were slightly more on the yellow side.@karan382
IF your viewing contents more on 4k HDR, Netflix and good streaming platforms, You better go for the x950G.
X950G will show its potential when you playing the 4k HDR titles. Also it has more dimming zones for better local dimming than x900h. For any HD or DTH contents the x900h would be more than enough.
Also in the showroom light condition, We can't judge the picture quality since all the TVs would be in demo mode. We could take this as a grain of salt.
BTW, I really doubt the 1% PQ difference between the X900h and x950G. Seriously!!!!!
Next time when you go for auditioning,
This is what I've done when I hunting for the TV.
- Copy some videoclips (4k HDR, 1080P) that vary from nature clips to sports(racing/ football) .
- Get the remote and change the Picture mode to CinemaHome/Pro (eliminate all unwanted process).
- Now play the videos side by side and observe.
Like you mentioned, you can't go wrong with either of them. Cheers
I am thoroughly confused as I don't want to compromise on picture quality but at the same time I do not want to loose out on a feature that is right around the corner (HDMI 2.1). When I compre the apple to apple specs on sites such as RTINGS the 900H is as good as the 950G if not better in some aspects including local dimming. But then there is also a school that says that 95G is much better for HDR content and 1080 streaming. I am not sure which way to go. I have to confirm my purchase tomorrow any how.
The issue is that the 900H is just launched in India market and there are no reviews by the popular Indian reviews in Youtube. I always feel that for India use for Indian models the Indian reviewers are more real for a practical assessment of the product.
Will appreciate your thoughts and specually if someone has done a demo of both models side by side. Thanks
adeshagarwal
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Hey, I just visited a Sony Center today and saw X950G & X900H side by side and I didnt see any noticeable difference whatsoever. Like you said, X950G was a tad bit brighter but nothing apart from that. I also tested a low res video and both the sets performed similarly. Even though, X950G has more dimming zones, I think X900h managed blooming better, again I am nitpicking. Without putting them side to side, I doubt anyone would be able to differentiate between the two.
That said, my opinion would be to go with the X900h, at least here it is slightly cheaper than X950G. Its a newer model and has been a massive success in the western markets plus you are future proofing yourself with HDMI 2.1 even if there is hardly any use case right now, it will become popular sooner or later.
Just my 2 cents, you cant go wrong with either from picture quality point of view.
lightgamer
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950G is significantly better than 900H. For HDR videos, the most important aspect is how does a TV manage small specular highlights. Here is the rtings comparison which I'll refer to frequently.
If you go to HDR Peak brightness for 2%, you will see that 950G does 1200 nits while 900H only does around 300. That's a massive difference. The 900H sacrifices specular brightness for controlling blooming (the Samsung approach) while the 950G goes all out for impact. Also, the panels of 950G and 950H are much brighter than 900H. The only way to get bright highlights without blooming is to get an OLED, on an LCD you either go one way or another. Also, the 950G has much better reflection control and better colour accuracy.
If you care about picture quality, go with 950G and you won't regret it. Regarding the PS5, it will have performance comparable to RTX 2070/2070 super which can't play AAA titles beyond 4k 50-60 fps anyway, so 4k 120 will be a far cry for the PS5 as well unless you're playing e-sports titles. And DTH content will always be either 24 or 30 fps and in some cases 50i or 60i. Even sports channels in India don't give us 60 fps at even 1080p, so 4k 120 over cable/DTH will never happen.
The only way 4k 120 will matter is if you're going to attach this TV to a next-generation PC with Nvidia's upcoming 3000 series GPUs. In that case, having a 4k 120Hz monitor will be an awesome feature. If you're not planning to do that, I'd say go for 950G over 900H any day of the week.
PS: also consider LG B9 which should be available for a similar price and should be significantly better in PQ over both of them. If you don't watch a lot of cable TV and channels and only view movies/OTT content, it will never burn-in.
@karan382
It looks like you are in big dilemma.
Make it simple , If you are seriously into gaming or more specifically HDMI 2.1 go for X900H. Else just pick the x950G.
Just don't make the HDMI 2.1 as the deal making factor. Take this as a optional and nice to have feature. Currently there are no games or any video titles that fully utilize the HDMI 2.1 features. And i really doubt in near future as well.
HDMI 2.0a is more than enough for the current oceans of 4K hdr titles, games and etc. Even in the near future, I'm not sure that how many game titles will makes use of it. And I'm pretty sure that it'll take at least 2 - 3 years for handful of titles to show up. Again, By that time(5~7 years) our current TV will get old and started show ageing.
Also you need to consider that whether you need the Sony's flagship processor( X1 Ultimate) or 3 year old (Customized version of X1).
Sony x950G is at its lowest price point now where as the newly launched x900h yet to get that deal.
If you are not already checked out this review of X900h from HDTVTest, Please check here,
One more thing, If you could wait for one more year, maybe you could get a Sony TV(X1 Ultimate chip) with HDMI2.1.
Happy shopping. Cheers
It looks like you are in big dilemma.
Make it simple , If you are seriously into gaming or more specifically HDMI 2.1 go for X900H. Else just pick the x950G.
Just don't make the HDMI 2.1 as the deal making factor. Take this as a optional and nice to have feature. Currently there are no games or any video titles that fully utilize the HDMI 2.1 features. And i really doubt in near future as well.
HDMI 2.0a is more than enough for the current oceans of 4K hdr titles, games and etc. Even in the near future, I'm not sure that how many game titles will makes use of it. And I'm pretty sure that it'll take at least 2 - 3 years for handful of titles to show up. Again, By that time(5~7 years) our current TV will get old and started show ageing.
Also you need to consider that whether you need the Sony's flagship processor( X1 Ultimate) or 3 year old (Customized version of X1).
Sony x950G is at its lowest price point now where as the newly launched x900h yet to get that deal.
If you are not already checked out this review of X900h from HDTVTest, Please check here,
One more thing, If you could wait for one more year, maybe you could get a Sony TV(X1 Ultimate chip) with HDMI2.1.
Happy shopping. Cheers
Yogesh
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950 scores in every other area if you ignore HDMI 2.1.
It also needs to be considered that 950 has eARC while 900 doesn't.
It also needs to be considered that 950 has eARC while 900 doesn't.
eARC support only available after future software update. No out of the box support for X900h.
@karan382
It looks like you are in big dilemma.
Make it simple , If you are seriously into gaming or more specifically HDMI 2.1 go for X900H. Else just pick the x950G.
Just don't make the HDMI 2.1 as the deal making factor. Take this as a optional and nice to have feature. Currently there are no games or any video titles that fully utilize the HDMI 2.1 features. And i really doubt in near future as well.
HDMI 2.0a is more than enough for the current oceans of 4K hdr titles, games and etc. Even in the near future, I'm not sure that how many game titles will makes use of it. And I'm pretty sure that it'll take at least 2 - 3 years for handful of titles to show up. Again, By that time(5~7 years) our current TV will get old and started show ageing.
Also you need to consider that whether you need the Sony's flagship processor( X1 Ultimate) or 3 year old (Customized version of X1).
Sony x950G is at its lowest price point now where as the newly launched x900h yet to get that deal.
If you are not already checked out this review of X900h from HDTVTest, Please check here,
One more thing, If you could wait for one more year, maybe you could get a Sony TV(X1 Ultimate chip) with HDMI2.1.
Happy shopping. Cheers
Thanks lightgamer and homur. These are indeed fantastic inputs, very well structured and clearly communicated. From this feedback, it seems clear that the 950G is a clear winner for watching HDR content and even upscaling normal content. Given the fact that I am yet to begin my gaming journey, I doubt that either me and my 7 year old will be able to greatly appreciate the hdmi 2.1 feature and linked content in gaming. For all you know I may not even buy the PS5 next year. Also as I understand that there will not be any significant change in pucture quality for HDR content through OTT through HDMI 2.1 set up. Hope my understanding is correct?
Therefore I think that I should make my choice basis my current use (Netflix, YouTube and DTH) and not what I may or may not do in future.
Homur thanks for sharing the video review by HDTVTest. I had seen it earlier but watched it again now. His analysis on the low dimming zones etc. supports the analysis in the shortcomings in HDR picture quality. So I guess it is back to the 95G then. I will sleep over it and hope when I wake up my thought process remains the unchanged.
Meanwhile please feel free to throw in any more advise.
Thank again for these great replies. Very well put together
lightgamer
Well-Known Member
Yes, that's correct. Most content is 24fps or 30fps(movies, cable) over OTT/cable. You get some 60fps content on YouTube or 60i(interlaced) on cable. HDMI 2.0a/b can do 4k 60Hz/fps at 10-bit 4:4:4 which is all you'll ever need for this content.
HDMI 2.1 allows for 4k 120Hz at 12-bit 4:4:4 if TV supports 48 Gbps(LG C9) or 10-bit 4:4:4 if 40 Gbps (all others). Unless you really need these features for PC gaming or PS5, go for X9500G with your eyes closed. A better panel and processing is going to make a much bigger difference than 4k 120Hz gaming which the PS5 won't be able to do anyway.
harryneopotter
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eARC doesn't need hdmi 2.1 from what I have heard. Do correct me if I am wrong.
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