longshanks
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ES8000
After calibration we measured black level to 0.04 cd/m2, which is one notch up from last years D8000 but in real life a very tiny difference. It might occur due to very small differences in distribution of the edge LED-backlighting on the panel. It means that Samsung holds one to their leadership position together with Sharp amongst the edge LED based TVs, and it also means that ES8000 is actually outperforming some plasma TVs in an area where plasma TVs traditionally have had an advantage.
Our Samsung ES8000 sample had no critical clouding or bleeding issues. Brightness is not distributed 100 % evenly on the panel but this is true for every single edge LED based TV out there today. Compared to for example Panasonic DT50 and LG LM7600, our ES8000 sample was far better and we never noticed light leakages during movie watching, gaming or other sequences.
Viewing angles have not changed compared to last years models. Viewing angles are still fairly wide and you can enjoy the TV from most angles but you will notice that some colors loose intensity from extreme angles.
Samsungs 3D implementation is great and applicable but I would personally still love to see Samsung switch to a passive 3D solution on their LED models. It is true that active 3D theoretically has a higher resolution and therefore better 3D detailing but active 3DTV also struggle with crosstalk, flicker and expensive 3D glasses. 3D picture quality on ES8000 is good enough for mixed use, sure, but only slightly improved compared to last years line-up.
Source: Samsung ES8000 (LED) review - FlatpanelsHD
HX850
After calibration we measured black depth to 0.06 cd/m2, which is fairly good compared to the typical edge LED based TV, and only slightly higher than Samsungs ES8000. However, Sony has not improved black level reproduction dramatically in the past few years.
Clouding / bleeding is always a difficult subject because we know from experience that it can vary a lot from one TV to another. Our Sony HX850 had very modest clouding and is one of the best edge LED based TVs we have seen to date but our experience tells us that the complete story is impossible to tell with only one test sample. Only when users start received their TVs, we can truly tell if the manufacturers has addressed the issue or not. But as said; our HX850 sample had no serious clouding issues and we did not notice any problems during everyday use.
To put it in context, HX850 is on par with most other LCD-TVs in this price range. 3D picture quality is fair but not great. Our main reservation with Sonys 3D implementation continues to be that the 3D effect vanishes if you tilt your head only slightly to the side.
The viewing angles are not particularly wide. We were unable to confirm but it looks like a Sharp panel inside the HX850. Sharps panels have some color washout issues and colors often look pastel from an angle. The same thing occurs on HX850 from 30-40 degrees angles or more.
Source : Sony HX850 (HX853) review - FlatpanelsHD
ES8000
After calibration we measured black level to 0.04 cd/m2, which is one notch up from last years D8000 but in real life a very tiny difference. It might occur due to very small differences in distribution of the edge LED-backlighting on the panel. It means that Samsung holds one to their leadership position together with Sharp amongst the edge LED based TVs, and it also means that ES8000 is actually outperforming some plasma TVs in an area where plasma TVs traditionally have had an advantage.
Our Samsung ES8000 sample had no critical clouding or bleeding issues. Brightness is not distributed 100 % evenly on the panel but this is true for every single edge LED based TV out there today. Compared to for example Panasonic DT50 and LG LM7600, our ES8000 sample was far better and we never noticed light leakages during movie watching, gaming or other sequences.
Viewing angles have not changed compared to last years models. Viewing angles are still fairly wide and you can enjoy the TV from most angles but you will notice that some colors loose intensity from extreme angles.
Samsungs 3D implementation is great and applicable but I would personally still love to see Samsung switch to a passive 3D solution on their LED models. It is true that active 3D theoretically has a higher resolution and therefore better 3D detailing but active 3DTV also struggle with crosstalk, flicker and expensive 3D glasses. 3D picture quality on ES8000 is good enough for mixed use, sure, but only slightly improved compared to last years line-up.
Source: Samsung ES8000 (LED) review - FlatpanelsHD
HX850
After calibration we measured black depth to 0.06 cd/m2, which is fairly good compared to the typical edge LED based TV, and only slightly higher than Samsungs ES8000. However, Sony has not improved black level reproduction dramatically in the past few years.
Clouding / bleeding is always a difficult subject because we know from experience that it can vary a lot from one TV to another. Our Sony HX850 had very modest clouding and is one of the best edge LED based TVs we have seen to date but our experience tells us that the complete story is impossible to tell with only one test sample. Only when users start received their TVs, we can truly tell if the manufacturers has addressed the issue or not. But as said; our HX850 sample had no serious clouding issues and we did not notice any problems during everyday use.
To put it in context, HX850 is on par with most other LCD-TVs in this price range. 3D picture quality is fair but not great. Our main reservation with Sonys 3D implementation continues to be that the 3D effect vanishes if you tilt your head only slightly to the side.
The viewing angles are not particularly wide. We were unable to confirm but it looks like a Sharp panel inside the HX850. Sharps panels have some color washout issues and colors often look pastel from an angle. The same thing occurs on HX850 from 30-40 degrees angles or more.
Source : Sony HX850 (HX853) review - FlatpanelsHD
..where in a showroom with all brands if you are standing before a large tv guys will come rushing to pay u attention..
hyeah:
Or if 3D is needed then HX750 will do as well, it's also got very good 2D performance with the right settings. I really doubt your FIL will be even slightly disappointed with the PQ 
