@Selvin Thanks . Records are not in mint condition but they are good to play. The crackling noise is in sync with vocals and also instruments. I'm guessing it must be something to do with the stylus or counter weight. Still not resolved but hope it will soon.
Just started in to analog audio, Looking for a decent used TT
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reubensm
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If you have old records, then the M44-7 is the best cart to have. It tracks very well, has a loud output with extended bass. With the Technics S-shaped tonearm, if will track absolutely any type of record, unless the record is heavily damaged. Tracking at 1.5 gms with anti-skate at 2gms, it can play any warped or marginally pimpled record.
People say that its a DJ cart and not for audiophile listening but in my opinion, that solely depends on what your definition of audiophile is.
For $50, if I can get a cart that will last for ages, have a stylus that is robust and plays for ages, and interestingly causing less record wear (as claimed by Shure), fits virtually any 1/2 inch mount headshell, provide enough millivolts to drive any phonostage under the sun, has a good bass signature, does not need careful input load balancing, can track well and play almost any record, for which the original Shure replacement stylus is readily available (even the 78rpm version), and can sound very pleasing while being agressive and punchy, then I'd definitely be on that band-wagon.
People say that its a DJ cart and not for audiophile listening but in my opinion, that solely depends on what your definition of audiophile is.
For $50, if I can get a cart that will last for ages, have a stylus that is robust and plays for ages, and interestingly causing less record wear (as claimed by Shure), fits virtually any 1/2 inch mount headshell, provide enough millivolts to drive any phonostage under the sun, has a good bass signature, does not need careful input load balancing, can track well and play almost any record, for which the original Shure replacement stylus is readily available (even the 78rpm version), and can sound very pleasing while being agressive and punchy, then I'd definitely be on that band-wagon.
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Thank you for your inputs. Today I have tried to balance the tonearm as I observed it is sliding towards the right. Tried to adjust the counter weight but it is not working. I have been reading to adjust anti skate to cantilever in the middle of the air which should also be parallel to the platter.
But in the TT there is no anti skate knob.
. There is a counter weight at the end of the tonearm and one ring in the middle of the tonearm.
If anybody has experience with Philips 242 TT, please guide me to come over this problem
Thank you for your inputs. Today I have tried to balance the tonearm as I observed it is sliding towards the right. Tried to adjust the counter weight but it is not working. I have been reading to adjust anti skate to cantilever in the middle of the air which should also be parallel to the platter.
But in the TT there is no anti skate knob.
. There is a counter weight at the end of the tonearm and one ring in the middle of the tonearm.If anybody has experience with Philips 242 TT, please guide me to come over this problem
kuruvilajacob
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@reubensm
Thank you for your inputs. Today I have tried to balance the tonearm as I observed it is sliding towards the right. Tried to adjust the counter weight but it is not working. I have been reading to adjust anti skate to cantilever in the middle of the air which should also be parallel to the platter.
But in the TT there is no anti skate knob.
If anybody has experience with Philips 242 TT, please guide me to come over this problem
The counter weight is the sliding type if I remember right. You must loosen the screw and slide it forward for increasing the weight and backward for decreasing the weight. i do not remember if it has a anti-skating mechanism. You must slide the ring in the tone arm back and balance the tone arm using the counter weight. Once it is balanced,it will be zero weight. Then move forward the ring on the tonearm till it reaches required weight.
So, last night I tried to adjust as you suggested but when I put the tonearm parallel to the platter it is pulling it self to the right (towards the tonearm rest). While playing it is not sliding the tracks but the crackle is still there. I think next try is to change the cartridge
So, I have decided not to go for any old TT as I'm a newbie and ordered the Pro-ject Essentials TT. Waiting for it to get delivered. Once I get experience then I'll start exploring the vintage/old TTs. Till then will collect as many vinyls as possible.
Thank you guys for all your support
So, I have decided not to go for any old TT as I'm a newbie and ordered the Pro-ject Essentials TT. Waiting for it to get delivered. Once I get experience then I'll start exploring the vintage/old TTs. Till then will collect as many vinyls as possible.
Thank you guys for all your support
greenhorn
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crackle won't be caused due to anti skate - Bad anti skate might case skipping or channel imbalance, but not crackles. Is your weight set correctly, and are your records clean?
greenhorn
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Just rinsing is not enough. You need to use a record cleaner brush or cloth to get the grooves out.
http://www.hifivision.com/phono-turntables/14306-manav-malvai-zero-paisa-vinyl-cleaning-method.html
I'd say try the record in another FM's good TT before throwing more money into this experiment. Getting good condition LP's in india is hard. I thought I had a decent LP collection bought from moore market until I came to europe and bought some records from the flea markets here - there is no comparison!
If you are using an M447, try increasing the weight and see if it improves sound.
http://www.hifivision.com/phono-turntables/14306-manav-malvai-zero-paisa-vinyl-cleaning-method.html
I'd say try the record in another FM's good TT before throwing more money into this experiment. Getting good condition LP's in india is hard. I thought I had a decent LP collection bought from moore market until I came to europe and bought some records from the flea markets here - there is no comparison!
If you are using an M447, try increasing the weight and see if it improves sound.
reubensm
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Interesting kris, however I must say that you are on track with ordering the new TT. Vintage TTs require a lot of experience, especially with calibration and this can be quite a challenge at times, even for the experienced. Having said that, you should get back to vintage once you are familiar with the format as the better sounding TTs lie down that ally.
In my opinion, it is virtually impossible to get spot-less sound from older records, even if you use the best of cleaning methods. But a few ticks and pops are part of the vinyl experience.
@reubensm I understand there will be pops and click sounds when listening to a vinyl record. The crackle sound that bugged me is something abnormal.
Last night I have adjusted the counter weight and tone arm as per musiklava79 suggestions. Now the crackle sound has gone nearly 80%. New problem is continuous pop sound are coming. I'm suspecting that this is causing by fine dust on the records. Looks like I badly need to brush the record before playing.
How do we prevent this fine dust entering into the room. This is one biggest problem in my home, I clean my PC and audio gear daily two times to get rid of the dust.
Last night I have adjusted the counter weight and tone arm as per musiklava79 suggestions. Now the crackle sound has gone nearly 80%. New problem is continuous pop sound are coming. I'm suspecting that this is causing by fine dust on the records. Looks like I badly need to brush the record before playing.
How do we prevent this fine dust entering into the room.
This is one biggest problem in my home, I clean my PC and audio gear daily two times to get rid of the dust.kuruvilajacob
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@reubensm I understand there will be pops and click sounds when listening to a vinyl record. The crackle sound that bugged me is something abnormal.
Last night I have adjusted the counter weight and tone arm as per musiklava79 suggestions. Now the crackle sound has gone nearly 80%. New problem is continuous pop sound are coming. I'm suspecting that this is causing by fine dust on the records. Looks like I badly need to brush the record before playing.
How do we prevent this fine dust entering into the room.
I think you must invest in a budget Record cleaning machine or try one of the several DIY cleaning methods you will find in previous post in this forum. I use a DIY vacum cleaning system which is very effective but involves some investment and effort . If you want to know more. you can please pm me
greenhorn
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I think it's one of the hazards of living in india. I bought a Knosti disco anti stat in the UK, and it got records cleaned up pretty nicely. Here I let records lie around in the open, and not much dust gets on them (but it's a headache to get them off because of the higher static because of dry air)
I took some of them home to India, and was suddenly shocked to find how quickly they accumulated dust!
I took some of them home to India, and was suddenly shocked to find how quickly they accumulated dust!
@kuruvilajacob @greenhorn Thank you. Dust is one thing I can't avoid at my home. Even after wiping out the dust before playing, still I can see the dust particles on the record. Yesterday I have ordered Vinyl Styl carbon fiber brush.
reubensm
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@reubensm I understand there will be pops and click sounds when listening to a vinyl record. The crackle sound that bugged me is something abnormal.
Last night I have adjusted the counter weight and tone arm as per musiklava79 suggestions. Now the crackle sound has gone nearly 80%. New problem is continuous pop sound are coming. I'm suspecting that this is causing by fine dust on the records. Looks like I badly need to brush the record before playing.
How do we prevent this fine dust entering into the room.
Its very very difficult, if not impossible to achieve perfect noise-free sound on vinyl. There are loads of noise sources, coming from the deck as well as from the records themselves. These can be eliminated one by one. Having a pop-free record would depend primarily on its age, groove condition and storage. Keep your record sleeves clean, use covered storage, detailed cleaning periodically and superficial clean before each playing session. Also keep a clean stylus. Most of us play our records without the dust cover. Don't keep the record on the TT open for long. After playing, return them immediately to their sleeves.
Tonearm calibration is also key, if your stylus drags against the groove walls, then you'd be forced to listen to more noise. Some take a maverick approach and use cartridges that are not very sensitive. Most of my records are old and I cannot eliminate noise 100%. The joy of seeing them play and listening to them, makes me forget the noise
Thank you guys for all your valuable suggestions. Our FM Prateek also looked into it and told me that the speed of the TT is not correct. As I've just started into Vinyl, I had to sell it and went for a new Pro-ject Essentials TT. Took help from FM Prateek to set it up and listened to few LPs . The TT itself is good and no hiccups for now.
. The TT itself is good and no hiccups for now.hello!
this is my first post and im still getting a hang of the forum, please do bear with me.
im also keen on owning my first turntable and looked up a PHILPS 533 which had an attached speaker and ran on three speeds (no options to change treble, bass). the sound quality was good and seemed to be in good condition.
I want to know more about the model. any possible reviews and pros or cons of the 533 would be welcome. especially with respect to the internal workings of the machine.
thanks a ton!
this is my first post and im still getting a hang of the forum, please do bear with me.
im also keen on owning my first turntable and looked up a PHILPS 533 which had an attached speaker and ran on three speeds (no options to change treble, bass). the sound quality was good and seemed to be in good condition.
I want to know more about the model. any possible reviews and pros or cons of the 533 would be welcome. especially with respect to the internal workings of the machine.
thanks a ton!
greenhorn
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22-GF-533/00Z R-Player Philips Iberica S.A.E. Miniwatt; Madr
if this is the machine you're talking about, this was a record player, not a turntable (as it had the preamp, amp, speakers etc built in)
unless you are looking at inheriting it from someone or similar sentimental reasons, I'd suggest you keep looking elsewhere
if this is the machine you're talking about, this was a record player, not a turntable (as it had the preamp, amp, speakers etc built in)
unless you are looking at inheriting it from someone or similar sentimental reasons, I'd suggest you keep looking elsewhere
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