Lots of TT choices - Need help!!

Any idea how the shure m97 compares to AT91E?



How exactly do you say the SLQ2 is better? because it is direct drive?
And is there anyway i can buy these low capacitance cables and wires online?

Hi,
There is no comparison between At91 and M97xe.AT 91is only good for the price you are getting it.SL Q2 is superior in many aspects like weight(7kg Approx) vs 4.5kg of SLB2.Its not a question of DD/Belt drive.Both Technics players are excellent but SLq2 is better built than SLb2.
You can download user manuals for both Technics TT and compare.
Technics Owners Manuals, Service Manuals, Schematics, Free Download | Vinyl Engine

Both Technics were produced in 1979-80.Technics SLQ2 was priced $200 vs $130 of SLB2,you can see this link:
http://vintagetechnics.co.uk/turntables.htm

Regards,
Sachin
 
And is there anyway i can buy these low capacitance cables and wires online?[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I am using DAC video cable on my Technics with good result.You can buy from hifimart DAC ARX03C Component Video Cable
Please remember the colour code,it should be Red,Green and Blue not White,Red and Yellow.Upgrading interconnects on TT is not very easy,you have to make room to adjust thicker cables.

Regards,
Sachin
 
Alright people,
Here's how the audition went...

Disclaimer:
1. I may be new to Turntables but I am also a musician and have been around/played in live bands, so I have a pretty well trained ear.
2. The players' sound was judged entirely on my taste in music, so please be objective while reading - records used - Jimi Hendrix (Are You Experienced) and some random Ilayaraja tracks.
3. All sounds heard on Pioneer integrated AVR and Phillips bookshelf speakers

Denon Sl200 - Belt drive fully automatic
This was the first player I checked out and honestly my first real passage into the world of record players and believe me I was smiling like a fool. Never heard nothing like it. Period. (now i really understand what all the fuss is about :ohyeah:)
The player was really light-probably less than 2 kilos. Like all the other players there was nothing wrong with the table itself or the arm/needle. It came with a vintage Shure cartridge. The player was sparingly used by the previous owner. Cosmetically there was nothing wrong with it, except maybe it was a boring grey colour. Compared to the others the build quality was not upto the mark, the others definately had sturdier needles. Also the pitch tuning had to be done with a screwdriver through two holes under the player.
I found the sound too bright, consistently. The first record played was an Ilayaraja track. The clarity was there but to me it sounded all over the place. Mids were too bright, bass was too damp and the vocals spread out. More importantly the speed had to adjusted quite a few times before it settled at the right pitch, not very confidence inspiring. So overall, as expected, a basic entry level player.

Technics SLQ2 direct drive
The sound was quite close to what I had heard to in the Denon, but the build quality was way better. Everything looked and felt better, cleaner. Like I mentioned the sound again was similar to the Denon, I was surprised because I was sure this was a much better player than the basic Denon, maybe this particular piece had some faded out leads or something. Also when the table was running without a record on it, I did notice a bit of a whirring noise, not sure if this was normal, but I felt it might get quite annoying. Anyway move on to the next one...

Sony pST22 direct drive fully automatic
The second one, like most if not all Japanese brands in pretty much any product they make, the build quality was undeniable. The needle looked solid, the buttons looked like they were made last month. The colour was clean, no scratches. The player dint need an earth wire like the other players (not sure if thats important). Even the rubber padding that goes on the table was super smooth and looked brand new(checked, it was the stock one) considering this player is like 15 years old, thats saying something.
The sound itself was very clean, crisp and balanced. I felt that, like all players like Sony or Philips, that try to get a more 'commercial' or 'studio produced' sound, the bass was very clean and right in the centre, mids just the right amount of brightness and the clarity in the sound was unmistakable. This was a quality product with the perfect sound. But maybe thats why I dint favour it too much, it was too clean, too neat for me. What I look for, especially in something as uncompressed as a record player is the rawness, the instruments cutting through, the music sounding exactly like how it was meant to be. Not like something that was sent through a processor to sound perfect, something imperfect, unhinged and properly analog - all that I found in...

The Technics SlB2 Belt Driven fully automatic :ohyeah:
.... except the 'automatic' part did not work. :) But I was completely hooked to the sound it gave out and stood there for a long time listening to the Jimi Hendrix LP I had put on. To my ears atleast this was a clear winner. It had everything i wanted and looked for. Sure, there was some minor discolouration towards the side and the 'Start' and 'Reject' buttons did not really do anything. Few scratched on the cover as well :p But the sound was everything and I just really went for this player when I heard it.
The build was comparable to the Sony, and way better than the Denon. It had a lever to lift the needle from the platter, which the other players did not have. Nothing else to discuss then, I had found what I was looking for.

Final price - Technics SLB2 + AudioTechnica AT91E (brand new) - Rs. 5250 (only)
I think this is a pretty good deal. Lets hope I dont come across any issues in the near future atleast.

A word of advice to newbies like me - When you are going to a dealer DO NOT let him know that you are a first time record player buyer. The guy refused to give me a guarantee on the needle as he felt there was a chance I might break it in the beginning since i was a rookie. :annoyed:

A BIG thanks :signthankspin: to everyone who posted on this thread and other threads I had looked across before this buy.
 
Haha there you go. I had said earlier that the SL-B2 is a class act :lol:.

BTW its semi automatic not automatic. At the end of the record, the stylus returns to its original position.
 
Hi Charanbee,
Congrats on your purchase,very nice review too.SLB2 is a nice player.I am glad you did not pick up Denon.Great price for a good TT and AT cart.That SlQ2 table might have some problem as whining sound is not common on Technics.I am sure you will enjoy SLB2.Don't forget to align your cartridge with Stevenson 2 point protractor else you'll have distortion.
Cartridge Alignment Protractors | Free Turntable, Tonearm & Cartridge Tools | Vinyl Engine

Btw: My father used to play Accordion and now teaches keyboard,which instrument do you play.

Regards,
Sachin
 
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Haha there you go. I had said earlier that the SL-B2 is a class act :lol:.

BTW its semi automatic not automatic. At the end of the record, the stylus returns to its original position.

Well, the stylus did not move on its own at all end of record or middle of record. Dont mind really, I was able to reduce the price because of it anyway.

Hi Charanbee,
Congrats on your purchase,very nice review too.SLB2 is a nice player.I am glad you did not pick up Denon.Great price for a good TT and AT cart.That SlQ2 table might have some problem as whining sound is not common on Technics.I am sure you will enjoy SLB2.Don't forget to align your cartridge with Stevenson 2 point protractor else you'll have distortion.
Cartridge Alignment Protractors | Free Turntable, Tonearm & Cartridge Tools | Vinyl Engine

Btw: My father used to play Accordion and now teaches keyboard,which instrument do you play.

Regards,
Sachin

Thanks Sachin. The Denon was actually quoted at 6 grand so totally not worth the price from what I saw and expected. And yea i guess that particular SLQ2 was a lemon. Thanks again for the protractor thing, i think ill start off with the stupid protractor, seems like a first-timer thing :)

I play the drums btw.

Charan
 
Dear friend,

Many thanks for the PM.I guessed the dealer may be Mr.Sasi and I guessed it correct.Thank you once again.

Sincerely,
pksnathan
 
Hello people,

I have a choice of some record players and need help choosing from them,

1. Denon SL200
2. Technics SLQ2
3. Technics SLB2
4. Sony PS 11
5. Sony PST 22

All players are in mint condition, although with original cartridges; so will need to replace them but not immediately.
All players are between 4500 to 6000 bucks, so thats really is not an issue.

I also have an offer for an audiotechnica cartridge(brand new) for about 1500 bucks. If i dont take it, i can reduce it from the player's price.
The dealer seems keen on the Sony players and personally i liked the Denon, thought it had a very classy look.

There are many other players available, so if there are anything else i should like for please let me know, although i want to select from the above list....

thanks in advance.

Hi,

Have you also come across some higher end turntables in good cosmetic condition. I am looking for one for my sister.

Thanks and regards.
 
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