Marantz SR 6005: Does Audyssey help in 2 channel music

[kingajit]

I have more questions:
Is there any "stereo" mode for Audyssey?
Is it even geared towards stereo listening? OR will it just try to simulate surround sound if you calibrate with just 2 front speakers?
What would be the benefit of an Audyssey tuning on stereo? What are one's expectation when using Audyssey for stereo listening?
Are you looking for "balance" of volume between left/ right speakers?

Dear ANM,

The purpose of running the audyssey is for room correction and you will benifit from the room correction. If you do not have a subwoofer then in your AVR change the status of your subwoofer to none and then after you run your audyssey check that your fronts are detected as LARGE . Do not change the LARGE status as your AVR will now understand that it cannot direct the low frequencies to your subwoofer and will channel all of it to your speakers.

You will benefit from the audyssey for stereo listening if your comparison is wrt the manual settings for your AVR.

But you cannot compare the sound you achieve from your tube amp to that what you are getting via the AVR in the audyssey mode. Tube amp is still the best for stereo.

 

[darshanjoshi]

After you have run Audyssey always manually set your speakers to SMALL else nothing will go to to your subwoofer.
Next change manually your crossovers to a crossover that gives you the best sound but not below the one audyssey calculated for you. eg if audyssey calculated the crossover for a certain speaker as 60 then do not change it to 50 but feel free to change it anything above 60 or leave it at 60. If you are not sure then just follow the THX recommendation of 80hz.

When Audyssey sets Fronts as Large, frequencies from Front will not go to Sub but LFE and LF from surrounds which were set as Small will still go to Sub.

I have tried Mcaac with Pioneer, Multieq XT with Denon, YPOA of Yamaha with my speakers. They all set my front and center speakers as Large and surrounds as Small. Probably coz my Fronts are capable of going way below.

 

[Flash]

When Audyssey sets Fronts as Large, frequencies from Front will not go to Sub but LFE and LF from surrounds which were set as Small will still go to Sub.

I have tried Mcaac with Pioneer, Multieq XT with Denon, YPOA of Yamaha with my speakers. They all set my front and center speakers as Large and surrounds as Small. Probably coz my Fronts are capable of going way below.

Darshan, Don't you feel setting the Fronts as small and probably setting the crossover to 40hz / 60 hz . Will free up the speakers and allow it to play well within in limits and not try to produce freq it cant.

Plus it would reduce the load on the AVR as well as it can reroute the difficult to produce bass freqencies to a passive .1 output.

Although i dont have surrounds or a center and basically use a phantom center for HT.

I prefer keeping the crossover of the Front channels @60hz and reroute anything below that to the sub

 

[darshanjoshi]

Darshan, Don't you feel setting the Fronts as small and probably setting the crossover to 40hz / 60 hz . Will free up the speakers and allow it to play well within in limits and not try to produce freq it cant.

Plus it would reduce the load on the AVR as well as it can reroute the difficult to produce bass freqencies to a passive .1 output.

Although i dont have surrounds or a center and basically use a phantom center for HT.

I prefer keeping the crossover of the Front channels @60hz and reroute anything below that to the sub

I agree your views but thats how room correction works at my place. All of them keeps my front speakers as large.

When I keep front speakers as small, I feel there is over-whelming response from the sub. Hence I dont prefer changing the Audyssey settings.

 

[Flash]

Yeah , Makes sense

 

[darshanjoshi]

I and Spiro had once gone to Thecoolestone's (Shams) place. He owns 1912 (Multieq XT) with Whardale's 5.1 Speakers.

W/O Audyssey, HT was soundng okay. But when we switched on Multieq XT, My god...., Wharfdales sounded so amazing in HT. Could not believe the difference.

First time in my life, I was amazed with the Audyssey.
Same 1912 could not do magic at my place. However, I tried only once or twice.

When checked with Shams, he had re-run Audyssey 6-8 times to get the optimised results.

 

[Flash]

I and Spiro had once gone to Thecoolestone's (Shams) place. He owns 1912 (Multieq XT) with Whardale's 5.1 Speakers.

W/O Audyssey, HT was soundng okay. But when we switched on Multieq XT, My god...., Wharfdales sounded so amazing in HT. Could not believe the difference.

First time in my life, I was amazed with the Audyssey.
Same 1912 could not do magic at my place. However, I tried only once or twice.

When checked with Shams, he had re-run Audyssey 6-8 times to get the optimised results.

I should visit his place .... its been long overdue

 

[spirovious]

First time in my life, I was amazed with the Audyssey.
Same 1912 could not do magic at my place. However, I tried only once or twice.

Very true,I liked 1912 1st time.W/O Audyssey,its 5ch amp only.I miss the feature in Yamaha.Its difficult & to get correct results manually in Yamaha.

 

[kingajit]

When Audyssey sets Fronts as Large, frequencies from Front will not go to Sub but LFE and LF from surrounds which were set as Small will still go to Sub.

I have tried Mcaac with Pioneer, Multieq XT with Denon, YPOA of Yamaha with my speakers. They all set my front and center speakers as Large and surrounds as Small. Probably coz my Fronts are capable of going way below.

Dear Darshan, I have no experience with MCAAC or YPOA but am well versed with Audyssey. I understand that they provide similar functions that is room correction. Based on the results of the roll of frequencies we see labels that the speakers as Large or Small BUT bass management is not the function of Audyssey , it is the function of the AVR. Audyssey doesn't set speakers to Large or Small ,these are decisions that the AVR makes.

All audyssey does is that it measures whatever speakers and sub are in the system and creates correction filters for each one to undo the effects of room acoustics.

Multi EQ will run correctly even if you dont have a subwoofer. If there is no subwoofer you have no choice but to change the status of your speakers to LARGE.

Probably you are already aware that the LFE signal and the bass management crossover are two different things.

The crossover is responsible for taking the bass from the speakers and sending it to the subwoofer.

Audyssey recommends to manually change all speakers to Small thus enabling proper bass management.

This has the additional benefit of much better low frequency correction because MultEQ uses filters with 8x more resolution in the subwoofer channel. MultiEQ XT 32 has a lot more filters.

Flash has got it rite ......Small simply means: "send the bass to the sub". Guess we all have to swallow our pride and set the speaker to SMALL instead of LARGE ..cheers