New forum moderator required

[srinisundar]

No. Not this way. It's not MY thinking or what I want. A lot of members feel there is scope for improvement. The reason for not bringing this up, is for being banned. I know I will.

Nope, i have not seen anybody got banned for asking for moderator. It indeed an nice intention to put the forum front.

In past there are plenty of threads are there like this and only it will run for sometime useless ( like myself screwed(vivek is going to shout:; you bolted) it littlebit and at last will get deleted.

 

[Bluu]

^ Please elaborate what you mean. I understand the thankless part but explain the rest.

 

[Bluu]

Wow.. Don't get me started.. They can as well say they are a "read only" forum.. Have been trying to get a membership since ages and what do they validate?? Their policy is, "Write stories in the 'why do you want to join' section which we will not read but eventually send you a bulk message saying your english sucks"..

I hope arrogance is the starting point there!!

Blasto, TBHP is a big board with thousands of members and they have the validation now to ensure that new members will contribute to the forum and not cause problems for moderators. If you write a genuine testimonial, you will get accepted. Sandeep had to write it more than once and I KNOW he is a petrol-head.

Also, its a good thing that they expect good English. If this thread leads to my being made a mod, I will be strictest about forum decor.

 

[deepakgang]

I feel HFV is as good as any other forum and we have active and helpful members keeping things kicking and helping newbies etc.
I do not know how many moderators we have as of now. Probably we could go for a more planned moderation. Like a moderator for home theater section and another for accessories etc. This way someone who is expert and has more interest in an area can take up that part of the forum. Maybe after a while they can switch the sections.

I agree with the SMS lingo part. Its something we can take a stand on to improve the quality. Creating new threads under irrelevant sections, posting queries without doing a simple search, not closing the threads timely are some which I have noticed.


P.S : Can we also change the default colour scheme of this forum? Not sure if possible but I guess we should try get a new banner and look n feel

 

[Bluu]

It's more important to have moderators who understand how a forum functions rather than just experts in the AV field. I agree that moderators should take up sectional responsibilities but just because someone knows a lot about a certain thing does not mean they will be good moderators.

 

[magma]

hmmm

ive been here quite some time
I have rarely felt the forum is badly moderated

Infact its one of the most liberal forums i visit.(maybe thats the issue ? )

i have never seen A hard hand or a concerted effort to guide the forum in a particular direction (which i see a lot lately)

many owners like their forums to take a certain path that makes commercial viable sense ( not completely unreasonable - but does rub some people the wrong way)
I hardly see such a thing here

Mods may be a little late due to the large amount of info flow

sandeep
have you tried "reporting a post/thread" that you felt strongly about?

Sandeep
please do make suggestions
i dont thnk you will get banned for that!

lets review some points i gathered
1. Use of no sms lingo - plain english
2. Quicker action
3....?
4....?

members do elaborate. Im pretty sure Anil,venkat etc are listening

p.S what hifivision needs to learn from Bhp is how to allow a bit of commercialization
i.e Earn a revenue enough to at least keep the forum alive and healthy
(i know i may get hanged for saying this by some members )
but
i say this because i happen to know what this forum costs is running, im pretty sure the supermod is paying out of his pocket for some months of the year!
That itself speaks volumes about the owner

 

[Bluu]

Ali, the question is not about bad moderation. Its about adequate amount of moderation. If there are even 1-2 more mods, it will help Venkat, Madbullram and GeorgeO.

I can't comment on the commercialization aspect but the quality of posting can be improved a lot. I, for one, would love to NOT see "Best wishes for your sale" type of useless posts.

Liberal is good. Wild west is not.

 

[srinisundar]

hmmm

Infact its one of the most liberal forums i visit.(maybe thats the issue ? )

I agree with this

 

[vivek.saikia]

Moderation is not everyone's cup of tea.

What I mean is that the person -

1. Should be fully dedicated to the forum,i.e., should be able to dedicate at least 15hours of his day in active moderation which is more than a full time job
2. Should be truly impartial (towards region, race, cast, creed, sex, age, language etc etc.)
3. Shouldn't have any prejudice towards anything
4. Should be thoroughly knowledgeable, as far as HIFI is concerned
5. Should have very good logical thinking
6. Should have a pleasant online persona

In short, he should be a good leader who can direct this HiFi clan with his Charismatic authority rather than acting as a ruthless autocratic ruler.
As it may seem from the above list, finding all the above mentioned qualities in a single person is really hard and equally hard is to actually provide testimony for a person for his qualities. So, it will be always a hit and miss affair as far as getting the most efficient moderator is concerned.

Bluu, I would really like it if you could show all of the above mentioned qualities, but you really need to get the recommendations from the forum members so that it all becomes a balanced approach.

But frankly speaking, I have no issues with the current level of moderation despite of a few misses here and there, but as I already mentioned, nobody is perfect as we all are human beings.

PS: I have safely used 'He' as a personal pronoun as I have never come across a female HFV member.

 

[sandeepmohan]

Magma...I don't have much to contribute here. I read mostly.

For something that took place just today, why does the moderator insist a "Reason for sale" for a product if the owner just wants to sell it. Why is "reason" compulsory? If there is "no reason"; its just unacceptable. How and why?

The next is something that is so common here and now very annoying. Why does every music lover out there for a new Hi Fi system get the Wharfedale recommendation? There are so many options in the market marred only due to lack of proper dealerships and distributors.

 

[Bluu]

How do you expect me to show you the above traits?

I have been a member of many forums for many years now and I think that is the best experience you can get to be a mod. I am available on HFV for quite a few hours a day.

I'm a very nice guy. Ask anyone.

Last thing, its not like I want to be a mod to control this forum. In fact, I love the liberal nature as well. It's just that I feel the other mods could use some help.

 

[srinisundar]

How do you expect me to show you the above traits?

I have been a member of many forums for many years now and I think that is the best experience you can get to be a mod. I am available on HFV for quite a few hours a day.

I'm a very nice guy. Ask anyone.

Bluu, No need of telling nice guy and nobody is here to cross check and it is not at all necessary and it is not an IAS officer position to get the certificates and throw in the table..You have to be Good,bad and ugly(this doesn't matter- nobody is going to see the face- anyway you are smart-saw the photo in bglr meet) all the time.

 

[vivek.saikia]

How do you expect me to show you the above traits?

That's what I mentioned in my previous post. Nobody can really show or prove the traits and it is finally going to be a hit and miss affair only.

I think rather than asking for a new moderator or an extra moderator, we should be listing down the things that we like or don't like in this forum. This way there will be instances where the moderators will be well appreciated for the thankless job they do and also surely there will be lots of suggestions for improvements or wishlists from the members which the moderators can take up as a guideline or yardstick while doing moderation. I think this way the forum will be much more democratic.

Just my personal thought though.

 

[magma]

Ali, the question is not about bad moderation. Its about adequate amount of moderation. If there are even 1-2 more mods, it will help Venkat, Madbullram and GeorgeO.

I can't comment on the commercialization aspect but the quality of posting can be improved a lot. I, for one, would love to NOT see "Best wishes for your sale" type of useless posts.

Liberal is good. Wild west is not.

hmmm fair enough

Magma...I don't have much to contribute here. I read mostly.

For something that took place just today, why does the moderator insist a "Reason for sale" for a product if the owner just wants to sell it. Why is "reason" compulsory? If there is "no reason"; its just unacceptable. How and why?

The next is something that is so common here and now very annoying. Why does every music lover out there for a new Hi Fi system get the Wharfedale recommendation? There are so many options in the market marred only due to lack of proper dealerships and distributors.

hmmm

1st point - i think venktat asked because it says so in the rules of for sale
so he was probably enforcing that
maybe that rule needs amendment

2nd point
i agree!
but that cant be helped can it?
members are free to advice what they want
the buyer now would need to understand which member is just increasing his post count and which member is giving some serious advice

 

[Bluu]

1st point - i think venktat asked because it says so in the rules of for sale

It does not say anywhere in the rules that you have to state the reason for sale. Shanti even posted the entire list of rules in his DAD DAC thread.

 

[CANDUU]

I vote for srini sundar....

 

[deepakgang]

What if someone is selling because it gives a crappy output and you shouldn't complain because you never asked

 

[srinisundar]

I vote for srini sundar....

Kilambitanya(started)Vanduntanya(here he comes) Why don't you please allow me to be as like I am now. As you know I have been infracted for some posting earlier and not eligible for Moderator position hyeah:.

 

[shredder]

I propose GOBBLE as moderator. Someone with enough rep points to his name. That is conclusive, irrefutable proof that the person does indeed spend a lot of time on the forum.
And about this Wild West vs Gestapo thingie, there have been a number of acrimonious debates in the past (one of which led to SURI being banned). So I don't think we need an additional moderator to restrict things further. As it stands, I think hifivision is a good liberal forum and it is pointless and demeaning to compare ourselves to TBHP forum. It is not as if they are a benchmark for everyone to follow.
I agree that if a member goes so far as to use offensive four letter words, or personal remarks, etc in his post then the post deserves to be deleted and the poster censured. But, at least for me, one of the more interesting aspects of being on this forum, is to read the posts where people have heated debates. It keeps things lively and interesting).
And I agree that posters who post the obvious (for example: LCD or Plasma?) without taking the trouble to read older posts are irritating, but then again, for such people, silence is the best form of contempt.

 

[santhosh]

Blasto, I have been on Team-bhp since 2005 and it is one of the well moderated forums. IMO, Team-bhp is in an enviable position among Indian Forums - thanks to their rules, good moderation and quality content coming in from members.

Since it was asked, here are a few things that I like to see on hfv:

Discussions or posts that add no value should be moderated. Eg: "All the best for your sale" has become cliche out here.

Threads started on existing topics should be merged. Threads in wrong section should be moved into the right section. This way we'll have organised information rather than diluted information all over the place.

^ is easier said than done and requires a conscious effort from members as well - not just mods who are doing their best. To be fair, it is unrealistic to expect just 4 to moderate a forum of this size and growing. They have a life outside hfv too. More mods are needed.

For something that took place just today, why does the moderator insist a "Reason for sale" for a product if the owner just wants to sell it. Why is "reason" compulsory? If there is "no reason"; its just unacceptable. How and why?

Not sure which thread you are talking about but it is a rule that reason has to be mentioned. Nothing wrong in asking. On Team-bhp and even here, even normal members remind others about rules.

The next is something that is so common here and now very annoying. Why does every music lover out there for a new Hi Fi system get the Wharfedale recommendation? There are so many options in the market marred only due to lack of proper dealerships and distributors.

Can't blame you for this one mate. All those group-buy clickables have tatooed the Wharfedale name on everyone's heads. About time, supermod considers setting up a CMS to structure the site to improve usability and save bandwidth for members(those images eat up a lot of bandwidth).